Re: Tis the Season

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I believe that Channukkah is the most American holiday as it celebrates people using oil that we do not have. Oh, My! The time is getting short, the hours are getting late. The Christmas race and Hanukkah festival have started, and I’m still at the starting gate. As the finish line is too soon in sight, and the hours left are few, I’m doing what I one time said that I would never do. My heart is filled with love for all this joyous Christmas and Hanukkah season, with the race speeding up and my slowing down this cyber wish has a reason…….. “I wish you and yours a Joyous celebration of Christmas and freedom forever to my friends celebrating Hanukkah. May you all enjoy a Healthy and Blessed New Year” Chuck Always as close as the other end of your computer to help address any prostate cancer concerns. "What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others." (Chuck) Maack - Prostate Cancer Advocate/Activist <image002.jpg>Email: maack1@... PCa Help: "Observations" http://www.theprostateadvocate.com

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Could you elaborate, ? I see no relation to an eight-day Jewish holiday commemorating their freedom and the re-dedication of the Temple of Jerusalem in 165 BC and your “people using oil that we do not have.” Chuck (Chuck) Maack - Prostate Cancer Advocate/Activist Email: maack1@... PCa Help: " Observations " http://www.theprostateadvocate.com From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of CochraneSent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:49 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Re: Tis the Season I believe that Channukkah is the most American holiday as it celebrates people using oil that we do not have. Oh, My! The time is getting short, the hours are getting late. The Christmas race and Hanukkah festival have started, and I’m still at the starting gate. As the finish line is too soon in sight, and the hours left are few, I’m doing what I one time said that I would never do. My heart is filled with love for all this joyous Christmas and Hanukkah season, with the race speeding up and my slowing down this cyber wish has a reason…….. “I wish you and yours a Joyous celebration of Christmas and freedom forever to my friends celebrating Hanukkah. May you all enjoy a Healthy and Blessed New Year” Chuck Always as close as the other end of your computer to help address any prostate cancer concerns. " What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others. " (Chuck) Maack - Prostate Cancer Advocate/Activist <image002.jpg>Email: maack1@... PCa Help: " Observations " http://www.theprostateadvocate.com

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> Could you elaborate, ? I see no relation to an eight-day

> Jewish holiday commemorating their freedom and the

> re-dedication of the Temple of Jerusalem in 165 BC and your

> " people using oil that we do not have. "

I don't remember all the details or all of the symbolism, but in

the Jewish story of Chanukah the Maccabean rebels retake the

Temple in Jerusalem and must re-consecrate it and restore the

" Eternal Flame " , a small oil lamp that is to be kept burning

forever, never to be allowed to go out.

The problem is that they have only a small supply of oil, enough

for one day. They light the lamp and go out to procure more oil

but it takes eight days to get more. Miraculously (so the story

goes), the oil in the lamp lasts for all eight days.

I am sure that this ancient story has more than one

interpretation but I don't know enough to say what they are.

However, hopefully, I've remembered enough that you'll be able to

find out more on the web or that or someone else could fill

it out.

Alan

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A reasonable explanation, Alan, but still doesn’t explain ’s use of the words “people using oil that we don’t have.” The oil, if used as explained by Alan would/should be recognized as a fitting tribute for their re-dedicating the temple. Do we take to task the “Eternal Flame” present at the grave of our past President, F. Kennedy, as well? I think not. Or how about the Olympic flame that is kept burning and passed on from event to event, should this, too, be considered a waste of “oil that we don’t have?” Again, I think not. If one looks up “Eternal Flame” locations, there are many throughout the United States and the world. In reading the reasons for those Eternal Flames, I wouldn’t consider any being considered a use of oil that we/they don’t have. Chuck From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Alan MeyerSent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:30 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Tis the Season > Could you elaborate, ? I see no relation to an eight-day> Jewish holiday commemorating their freedom and the> re-dedication of the Temple of Jerusalem in 165 BC and your> " people using oil that we do not have. " I don't remember all the details or all of the symbolism, but inthe Jewish story of Chanukah the Maccabean rebels retake theTemple in Jerusalem and must re-consecrate it and restore the " Eternal Flame " , a small oil lamp that is to be kept burningforever, never to be allowed to go out.The problem is that they have only a small supply of oil, enoughfor one day. They light the lamp and go out to procure more oilbut it takes eight days to get more. Miraculously (so the storygoes), the oil in the lamp lasts for all eight days.I am sure that this ancient story has more than oneinterpretation but I don't know enough to say what they are.However, hopefully, I've remembered enough that you'll be able tofind out more on the web or that or someone else could fillit out.Alan

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Chuck & All - I think the phrase simply refers to a 'miraculous happening' - namely keeping the eternal flame burning on nonexistent fuel. Sam

 

A reasonable explanation, Alan, but still doesn’t explain ’s use of the words “people using oil that we don’t have.”

  The oil, if used as explained by Alan would/should be recognized as a fitting tribute for their re-dedicating the temple.  Do we take to task the “Eternal Flame” present at the grave of our past President, F. Kennedy, as well?  I think not.  Or how about the Olympic flame that is kept burning and passed on from event to event, should this, too, be considered a waste of “oil that we don’t have?”  Again, I think not.  If one looks up “Eternal Flame” locations, there are many throughout the United States and the world.  In reading the reasons for those Eternal Flames, I wouldn’t consider any being considered a use of oil that we/they don’t have.

 Chuck 

 

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Alan Meyer

Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 8:30 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: RE: Tis the Season

  

> Could you elaborate, ? I see no relation to an eight-day> Jewish holiday commemorating their freedom and the> re-dedication of the Temple of Jerusalem in 165 BC and your> " people using oil that we do not have. "

I don't remember all the details or all of the symbolism, but inthe Jewish story of Chanukah the Maccabean rebels retake theTemple in Jerusalem and must re-consecrate it and restore the " Eternal Flame " , a small oil lamp that is to be kept burning

forever, never to be allowed to go out.The problem is that they have only a small supply of oil, enoughfor one day. They light the lamp and go out to procure more oilbut it takes eight days to get more. Miraculously (so the story

goes), the oil in the lamp lasts for all eight days.I am sure that this ancient story has more than oneinterpretation but I don't know enough to say what they are.However, hopefully, I've remembered enough that you'll be able to

find out more on the web or that or someone else could fillit out.Alan