Guest guest Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 I wouldn't put too much stock in the CD57 results - my llmd does not bother testing for it any more because he had patients who felt great with low cd57 and patients who felt miserable who had high cd57. As far as being " cured " , my llmd indicated that you are never " cured " of lyme disease - the goal of treatment is to reduce the load on the immune system to the point where the body can handle the load on its own. Towards that end, the currently accepted practice is to treat until there are no more symptoms, and then treat for two additional months beyond that (assuming that there continue to be no flare ups or relapses). There could be any number of reasons for the other lab results that are not necessarily attributed to lyme. That is a serious shortcoming of our LLMD. They're not seeing the big picture. Have you had a viral panel done? As well as organic acid testing. Could shed more light on the overall situation. > > Hi all, > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > Thanks in advance, > Krassi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 KrassI, It's suggested that a CD57 below 100 is a sign of late stage Lyme. What I would be checkng ( given your labs) is parasites and allergies ( foods, etc). Your eosinophils are high. Hope this helps!! > > Hi all, > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > Thanks in advance, > Krassi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2012 Report Share Posted May 27, 2012 Yes- high EOS (my son and I have this too) mainly reflects the issue w parasites is my understanding too. I know it is frustrating w all of the treatments our boys have had. Glad his CD57 is fairly high- that is good news I think, Krassi.Maybe I should have my sons CD 57 tested. I thought they didnt like to run it on kids as it didnt mean much- but not sure.We found my son's first Zyto testing recently to be really helpful to figure out what his priorities are recently. I was even more impressed than I was w ART, but I know you've done both too. take care,To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 8:56:12 AMSubject: Re: Results from CD57 KrassI, It's suggested that a CD57 below 100 is a sign of late stage Lyme. What I would be checkng ( given your labs) is parasites and allergies ( foods, etc). Your eosinophils are high. Hope this helps!! > > Hi all, > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > Thanks in advance, > Krassi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Thank you for all your replies, as you can see I was too impatient to hear back from our doctor and that's why wanted to get some opinions here first. On the other hand since all of you suggested that there is still parasites issue going on - I am wondering if this battle will ever be successful for us? Parasites have been showing always as one of the biggest stressors for my son and we have been treating them since he regressed (3.5 years ago) - first few years with only natural approach - homeopathics, all kinds of herbals and the past 2 years more aggressively since we started Dr. K's protocol - we have tried few rounds with all prescription medication for parasites except Alinia (for some reason this one is not testing good for my son). I have never heard any other child being for so long on anti-parasitic treatments and not seeing much, or are there any other kids like our case? Right now we are going through a treatment with GcMAF and hopefully this will strengthen more his immune system. Krassi > > > > Hi all, > > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > > Thanks in advance, > > Krassi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Krassi I definitely empathize, you are not alone with the parasite wars! I'm new to this group and to Lyme, and we don't even have an LLMD yet, but not new to " biomed " treatment. We've been fighting parasites in my son for 5 years now, with both naturals and countless rounds of meds. Lots of short-term relief, but no long-term solutions yet, and he & I both seem to harbor a parasite(s) that no treatment regimen has been able to touch so far. It's very frustrating. That said, there are meds out there we have not used yet, such as Mepron. Also we've rarely done combinations of meds, as our DAN/MAPS doc is not a parasite or Lyme expert and doesn't tend to take that approach. So maybe the right meds are out there for us somewhere, and for you as well! Of course it would be even better if our kids had strong immune systems. Hoping GcMAF is the ticket for you. It wasn't for us, unfortunately, though we did see cognitive benefits. > > > > > > Hi all, > > > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > > > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > > > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > > > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > > > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > > > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > > > > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > > > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > > > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > > > > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Krassi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 There is talk on the MMS group of doing a parasite protocol every full moon for a year. Lots to learn. > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Can somebody with experience how to interpret results let me know what my son's results mean? Our doctor ordered T- and B-Lymphocyte/Nat Killer, and CD57 Panel and here is what I got today: > > > > CD 8 Pos. Lymph 17.8 Low, Ref. Int. 19-34 > > > > MCV 92 High , Ref. Int. 75-86 > > > > MCH 30.9 High , Ref. Int. 25.5-29.9 > > > > Eos 9 High , Ref. Int.0-4 > > > > Eos (absolute) 0.6 High , Ref. Int. 0.0-0.3 > > > > > > > > HNK1 (CD57) PANEL > > > > % CD8-/CD57+ Lymphs 4.5 Ref. Int. 2 - 17 > > > > Abs. CD8-CD57+Lymphs 144 Ref. Int. 60 - 360 > > > > > > > > Since the markers for the CD57 seems to be within range does it mean my son doesn't have Lyme and co-infections anymore? What are your thoughts? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Krassi > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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