Guest guest Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 What about using a binder, like charcoal or bentonite, 2-3 hours after and before meds, and make sure the bowels keep moving (like oxy powder, or magnesium citrate) before bed? > > hi everyone, > my 3.5 year old son has been on mepron and zithromax for about 3 weeks. the first few days we saw an immediate improvement in his behavior, then after the first week we've been seeing totally irrational and very severe OCD behaviors that he usually does not exhibit. so we stopped the mepron and zithromax for a couple of days and saw the behaviors at a less severe level. then a few hours after we restarted the mepron and zithromax, we saw the irrational behaviors return. i'm confused as to why there was very good improvement the very first time he took mepron and zithromax, and that we never saw the improvements again, even after stopping and restarting the 2 meds. does this mean we have to add another med, or raise the dose, or lower the dose, or just wait it out? and has anyone had this relapse in behaviors and for how long? > thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 We have done dozens of combinations of antibiotics and it was just this particular combo that was particulRly bad. It seemed to flare strep and Bartonella. Try adding augmentin or replacing Zithromax with augmentin. This is what helped my son. > > > > > hi everyone, > > > my 3.5 year old son has been on mepron and zithromax for about 3 weeks. the first few days we saw an immediate improvement in his behavior, then after the first week we've been seeing totally irrational and very severe OCD behaviors that he usually does not exhibit. so we stopped the mepron and zithromax for a couple of days and saw the behaviors at a less severe level. then a few hours after we restarted the mepron and zithromax, we saw the irrational behaviors return. i'm confused as to why there was very good improvement the very first time he took mepron and zithromax, and that we never saw the improvements again, even after stopping and restarting the 2 meds. does this mean we have to add another med, or raise the dose, or lower the dose, or just wait it out? and has anyone had this relapse in behaviors and for how long? > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 interesting book I have b een reading called liver and gallbladder cleanse says that a toxic/congested liver can cause chemical sensativity, allergies, poor digestion, off balance immune system and hundreds of other symptoms... we started liver detox herbs (and about to try a liver cleanse) and we started sleeping through the night (except of course before the moons darn it), and my sons severe psychosis/rages are down like 80%. He is much clear headed, more focused, happier.... I am going to keep looking for more ways to get and keep the liver clean.... in the past 6 years of LLMD's killing stuff none of them stressed keeping the liver working right....argh! > > Every herbal immune booster I have used has given me great results. You > don't really have total high immunity; you only have parts of the immune > system high. So, whenever you have some parts of the immune system > high, you will have some parts low. The Th1/Th2 balance is a good > explanation as to this. My immune system over-reacts to chemicals and > under-reacts to intracellular pathogens, which is actually what is > typically reported amongst the autism community. This is why people > display food allergies, but not enough to kill pathogens. Some people > say to be worried about immune boosters and only take immune modulators, > but they both make me feel better. My current favorites for the immune > system are bee products (pollen, propolis), African Mango, and my new > favorite is Nigella Sativa, often referred to as Black Seed. (Note: > other herbs may also be called Black Seed, but are a different herb.) > Taking African Mango and Nigella Sativa together is much more effective > for me than taking them separate. See what you health care practitioner > says about immune system options. > > Love and prayers, > > Heidi N > > > > How do you support a kid who is HYPER immune? He has normal IgG's. IgE's > are high. Immune modulators? We are scared to make it worse......but > their has to be a reason why this happens every time. > > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 hey deb, have you noticed the oxypowder killing off the beneficial bacteria at all? A well known doc told me to stop oxypowder because he said it killed the good guys... the cholestyramine is still causeing the constipation/bloating and gas for my son and have gone down to twice a week, but it doesnt seem to be helping as well that infrequently. deborah > > > > hi everyone, > > my 3.5 year old son has been on mepron and zithromax for about 3 weeks. the first few days we saw an immediate improvement in his behavior, then after the first week we've been seeing totally irrational and very severe OCD behaviors that he usually does not exhibit. so we stopped the mepron and zithromax for a couple of days and saw the behaviors at a less severe level. then a few hours after we restarted the mepron and zithromax, we saw the irrational behaviors return. i'm confused as to why there was very good improvement the very first time he took mepron and zithromax, and that we never saw the improvements again, even after stopping and restarting the 2 meds. does this mean we have to add another med, or raise the dose, or lower the dose, or just wait it out? and has anyone had this relapse in behaviors and for how long? > > thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 deb, what detoxes are you using? Your right, the docs dont get it about the liver, my son had become psychotic with all the meds and no one treating him with binders or detox help at all, made him nuts!!!!! I feel so bad we put him and our family through that hell, the treatments where def worse than the origional symptoms. > > > > > hi everyone, > > > my 3.5 year old son has been on mepron and zithromax for about 3 weeks. the first few days we saw an immediate improvement in his behavior, then after the first week we've been seeing totally irrational and very severe OCD behaviors that he usually does not exhibit. so we stopped the mepron and zithromax for a couple of days and saw the behaviors at a less severe level. then a few hours after we restarted the mepron and zithromax, we saw the irrational behaviors return. i'm confused as to why there was very good improvement the very first time he took mepron and zithromax, and that we never saw the improvements again, even after stopping and restarting the 2 meds. does this mean we have to add another med, or raise the dose, or lower the dose, or just wait it out? and has anyone had this relapse in behaviors and for how long? > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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