Study suggests surgery and watchful waiting have similar outcomes

[Guest guest]

Long term study suggests that surgery and watchful waiting for prostate cancer

have similar life extending outcomes. Please read the article and post what you

think.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-ra\

ises-doubts-over-treatment-for-prostate-cancer-7685310.html

Darryl

Darryl Mitteldorf, LCSW

Malecare

malecare.org

[Guest guest]

I tend to agree & other articles say about the same thing; maybe surgery is not the way to proceed, so

I'm lending toward IMRT/IGRT therapy, but with any treatments we all run a risk. If we do nothing the cancer will surely spread. Right! or maybe antioxidants, a suger free diet, 0 fat & exercise will slow the growth for years to come.

Ywal Come Back Now, Ya hear?

To: ProstateCancerSupport Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 7:10 AMSubject: Study suggests surgery and watchful waiting have similar outcomes

Long term study suggests that surgery and watchful waiting for prostate cancer have similar life extending outcomes. Please read the article and post what you think. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-raises-doubts-over-treatment-for-prostate-cancer-7685310.htmlDarrylDarryl Mitteldorf, LCSWMalecaremalecare.org

[Guest guest]

" If we do nothing the cancer will surely spread. " Research has shown that this

conclusion is not necessarily so and that numerous cancer events arise and

disappear within the body on a somewhat regular basis. The issue is that

medicine has not been able to reliably identify which are more aggressive, slow

growing, and potentially benign in terms of future disappearance to a large

extent.

With prostate cancer there is a fairly well established grading system that

combines with the age of the patient and other factors to help identify risk of

aggressiveness. So, saying it will surely spread is not a valid comment with

this and some other cancer diagnoses.

Earlier I alluded to the possible inaccuracies in reading biopsies and how that

might be skewed towards taking action versus inaction by providers, such a

leaning could easily be unconscious and related to one's interests and

specialty. I have had a few GPs offer the observation that seeing a specialist

is a situation where the patient needs to be cautious as the specialist is

focusing on finding something, that is, something to take action upon. It is an

unconscious bias (I believe in most cases), just as a mechanic is likely to find

something with your car or an engineer to find a " better " design. It is what

they do and they lean to doing it.

Rich

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> I tend to agree & other articles say about the same thing; maybe surgery is

not the way to proceed, so 

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> I'm lending toward IMRT/IGRT therapy, but with any treatments we all run a

risk.                                     Â\

 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â   If we do nothing the cancer will surely spread. Right!

or maybe antioxidants, a suger free diet, 0 fat & exercise will slow the

growth for years to come.    

> Ywal Come Back Now, Ya hear?

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> Subject: Study suggests surgery and watchful waiting

have similar outcomes

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> Long term study suggests that surgery and watchful waiting for prostate cancer

have similar life extending outcomes. Please read the article and post what you

think.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/study-ra\

ises-doubts-over-treatment-for-prostate-cancer-7685310.html

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> Darryl

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> Darryl Mitteldorf, LCSW

> Malecare

> malecare.org

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[Guest guest]

Brought to you be the same people who say that man causes ‘global warming’ hoax! I’m sure glad that the US doesn’t have socialized medicine YET! Glen - LLUMC ‘Graduate’

[Guest guest]

Seems like an inappropriate group remark...politics.

Rich

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> Brought to you be the same people who say that man causes 'global warming'

> hoax! I'm sure glad that the US doesn't have socialized medicine YET!

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> Glen - LLUMC 'Graduate'

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