Re: Extreme itchiness - now question about Valkion air

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Isa, Debbie and ,

Thank you for all your suggestions, I think few of them are helping a little

already. I started applying Camomile, Candula, Aloe creams different parts of

the day (alternating them) and the itchiness is slightly less, although still I

have to constantly discourage him to stop itching. I have the feeling that he is

going through some serious detox, because even when I stopped most supplements

he was still itching like crazy, so it is not reaction to them. Is it possible

that I am overdoing the Valkion air breathing? We have had the Valkion for more

then an year, but before we were using only the activated water since he was not

willing to breathe the oxygen. However to my pleasant surprise 3 weeks ago he

started breathing and now we do twice per day for 30 minutes. He likes it, I

think it makes him feel better and is helping him somehow, because he seems to

be so much more aware and with it, I cannot describe it but the way he looks at

me and other people now looks so " typical " (my sister was actually saying that

now when he looks somewhere else he feels when she looks at him and he turns to

look at her, as before he was not aware of other people looking at him if he

was not facing them), not sure how to put it in words, but something good is

happening. However all this itchiness makes me think if I started too fast with

the breathing? For those of you who have the Valkion and have been using it -

how slow did you start in the beginning?

Thanks,

Krassi

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Hi Krassi -

You may want to change your subject title to include " Rita " - she's the Valkion

queen

Great you are seeing such positives from the air. Not so great about rashes,

but to me they always mean stuff is coming out.

I believe there is also info in the files re Valkion - there may be a beginner

protocol...

HTH

Kim

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> Thank you for all your suggestions, I think few of them are helping a little

already. I started applying Camomile, Candula, Aloe creams different parts of

the day (alternating them) and the itchiness is slightly less, although still I

have to constantly discourage him to stop itching. I have the feeling that he is

going through some serious detox, because even when I stopped most supplements

he was still itching like crazy, so it is not reaction to them. Is it possible

that I am overdoing the Valkion air breathing? We have had the Valkion for more

then an year, but before we were using only the activated water since he was not

willing to breathe the oxygen. However to my pleasant surprise 3 weeks ago he

started breathing and now we do twice per day for 30 minutes. He likes it, I

think it makes him feel better and is helping him somehow, because he seems to

be so much more aware and with it, I cannot describe it but the way he looks at

me and other people now looks so " typical " (my sister was actually saying that

now when he looks somewhere else he feels when she looks at him and he turns to

look at her, as before he was not aware of other people looking at him if he

was not facing them), not sure how to put it in words, but something good is

happening. However all this itchiness makes me think if I started too fast with

the breathing? For those of you who have the Valkion and have been using it -

how slow did you start in the beginning?

> Thanks,

> Krassi

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Krassi-

I rarely post but I have to say SLOW DOWN on the valkion...

Starting at those levels may send your son into a detox that you may not be able

to control.

I would suggest a few minutes (like 5) every other day. Work up SLOWLY, same

schedule. Remember, it's not the quantity of valkion time, but the quality and

timing of the sessions which you have to coordinate with any infections that

your son may have.

My son has been on valkion for seveal years and only now is doing 20 minutes 3x

weekly. He has detoxed many organisms directly through his skin (worm larvae,

fungal hyphae, larval eggs..) so this is very powerful. If your son is itching

I would assume that he is beginning a detox process. He should have a great

deal of binding support (chlorella, modifilan) burbur, and ionic foot baths to

clean his body. It all needs to be in a balance. You will see greater healing

over time if you pace it back and support your son's body in detox.

You also need to take breaks from the machine for several weeks at a time

depending on your son's issues. For example, I never give my son valkion air

when he is beginning a parasitic flair up. I believe the valkion fuels the

organisms' growth and they become more aggressive. I wait through the killing

phase of these types of infections and only then resume valkion when we are

clearing out the dead.

Good luck- try to remember that less is more. I know it's tempting to do a lot

because you love your son so much and you want to help him as quickly as you

can.

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Thank You So Much ...wonderful input w/your much appreciated

support...all of which I fully agree with.

Krassi,

I fully believe you have a detox reaction you are dealing with....in the same

way w/the positives that you are also seeing is the glimps of the gains you have

to & we will work toward (just without the detox rash ). Like said,

let's cut the amount of air down to slow down the detox. It's been a while since

w/worked with start-up doses so I went back & searched our messages. I found the

biggest help in messages #5698 (mine) & #5756 (Lorina's) subject was " Valkion

Starting Amounts " from 11/20/09 to help us remember what start-up doses were

being recommended at the time. If you could please do an advanced search of

these messages it would help you as a mom further define a better starting dose.

For the itching, if it were my family member....I keep an old glass bottle with

a dropper (I have both an old Immusist bottle & an old LDM-100 bottle depending

on where in the house you are) that I put 1 dropper of Immusist & 3 droppers of

LDM-100, and about 5-8 drops of Theives Oil...the rest is Kangen beauty water

(ph balanced to the skin). We use this to apply topically on soars, cuts,

pimples, rashes...anything unknown as they are

anti-bacterial/anti-viral/antifungal & antiparasitic so I figure I'm covering

all the basis regardless of what it is ). This can be used on everything

except around the eyes or directly into the sensitive internal areas of nose or

ears...other than that it's gone just about everywhere else on my family. After

applying this I will generally apply some sort of oil...my favorite right now is

a mixture that one in our group makes, it's wonderful...it's a organic cocunut

w/almond & theives oil that's whipped till it's kinda a cream texture..great

stuff! I'd also tend to lean back to our all time favorite/never out in my house

Organix Aloe/Neem gel (we don't like the lotion one, just the gel one) that I

add w/some Calendula oil....the Aloe gel is very soothing & the Neem is

anti-parasitic as well.

Note: I wouldn't be quick to sell that Valkion at this point...sounds like it

may end up being one of the biggest blessings you may have had right in your

house. In the last year, one of the moms that I have personally talked to had

the Valkion as the only thing that would settle down her newborns seizures.

Along w/my car breaking down in the last 2 weeks, I have also been making

arrangements to repair my Valkion which also ended up w/a blinking red light.

I've been working w/Sweden in working towards getting it repaired...they said in

their e-mail that only 4 internationally have needed this repair...of course it

was mine...tough couple of weeks for us (

Hope This Helps,

Rita

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Ahhh, I feel awful because I think I definitely overdid it with the Valkion air

and caused my son this discomfort with the itchiness Rita, thank you so much

for recommending the old messages about Valkion, seems like everybody started

very low and slow – only from 3-5 minutes per day, every other day and gradually

going up with only 1 minute per day. I don't know why I thought that the more

breathing the Valkion air, the better, so I just went straight to the maximum,

seeing that actually my son loves it and some gains that we saw. However I

definitely need to go much much lower, thanks again for showing me the right way

Krassi

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Rita - you are amazing. Your replies are so detailed and helpful all the time.

Actually, it's me that is selling my Valkion. I don't want to sell it,

(especially after reading your posts) just need $$ to pay bills.

Kim

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Kim,

I'm so sorry I got switched... & I sooooo get it, between the increase in

property taxes (yes, our value went down by thousands & the taxes went up by

many hundreds..they raised our tax rate over 30% in the last 2 years like us

little taxpayers have all the money in the world to make up for their spending

problem....sorry for the rant!)...now add a car repair & were rowing up stream

trying to keep from drowning too.

I encouraged someone off-list to get it....with such a good machine, especially

since we can no longer get it in the US except used....

All I can say is we're praying hard for our many needs to be met, healing for

ourselves & our children & provisions to help meet our needs.

Blessings,

Rita

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> Rita - you are amazing. Your replies are so detailed and helpful all the

time.

> Actually, it's me that is selling my Valkion. I don't want to sell it,

(especially after reading your posts) just need $$ to pay bills.

> Kim

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Hi Kim- Im curious about your valkion- how much etc. please PM me when you can w more details including price etc. i dont know much about them but looked up some info today and I think it might be a really good thing for my son. thanks!

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Mon, June 4, 2012 3:03:02 PMSubject: Re: Extreme itchiness - now question about Valkion air

Rita - you are amazing. Your replies are so detailed and helpful all the time. Actually, it's me that is selling my Valkion. I don't want to sell it, (especially after reading your posts) just need $$ to pay bills.Kim

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Krassi,

You're a wonderful mom...don't beat yourself up for starting so strong....I see

the good, you're getting to see some of the positives that pushing through this

will bring.

How long have you been doing the 30 min....if he can handle this w/just rashes

then I think you could probably get away with not cutting it down to a full

starting dose...just cut it back...my guess from where you are at is to 10 min

for a couple of days adding in more binders & some extra liver supports for

now....give it a couple of days at the lower dose to see how he does. If he

stabalizes then w/the extra binders & liver supports ramp up adding 5 min or so

every 3-4 days to see how he does through the detox. Keep us posted.

Blessings,

Rita

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Rita,

We have been doing the 30 min twice per day for the past 3 weeks and the

itchiness started very gradually since then, althoug I didn't realize that in

the beginning (I started from 15 min/twice daily and after only 2-3 days we went

to 30 minutes, because he really likes breathing, plus we immediately noticed

that his awareness improved, which was very motivating). Thank you for the

recommendations to add more binders, I will do so and cut down the time to 10

min only (which actually I started doing since yesterday).

I am actually very impressed how powerful is this Valkion air, because we never

saw anything from he Valkion activated water, which we were giving to my son for

the past 1 year (we increased the dose gradually and in the end he was basically

drinking only activated water), but now from the air we saw such a powerful

detox only from 3 weeks on it. This reminds me to never underestimate things I

don't understand fully.

Krassi

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Rita - no apologies necessary Sorry to hear about the property taxes - ugh.

I think a lot of us are in the same boat financially. Things will get better

for us all - stay positive.

And I appreciate your mentioning my unit to someone off list...

Best,

Kim

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> I'm so sorry I got switched... & I sooooo get it, between the increase in

property taxes (yes, our value went down by thousands & the taxes went up by

many hundreds..they raised our tax rate over 30% in the last 2 years like us

little taxpayers have all the money in the world to make up for their spending

problem....sorry for the rant!)...now add a car repair & were rowing up stream

trying to keep from drowning too.

> I encouraged someone off-list to get it....with such a good machine,

especially since we can no longer get it in the US except used....

> All I can say is we're praying hard for our many needs to be met, healing for

ourselves & our children & provisions to help meet our needs.

> Blessings,

> Rita

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Hi -

Thanks for your interest. I sent you a pm.

Kim

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> info today and I think it might be a  really good thing for my son. thanks!

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