Credential and Reputations was Salvestrols

[Guest guest]

Alan you say in part:

<snip> ……it's hard to dismiss him on the same grounds

that we might dismiss the inventor of, say, Essiac tea. <snip>

I’m guessing you never read too much

about Rene Caisse, a trained nurse. She did indeed claim that a herbal compound

(now called Essiac Tea) she had learned about would cure some cancers if her protocols

were followed. Qualified Canadian doctors investigated her claim and declared

that she was correct. A number of US doctors came to Canada and declared that the Canadian

doctors were mistaken, but their report contradicting the Canadian report was never

released, nor were their grounds for repudiation. End for formal recognition of

Rene Caisse and her work.

BUT…… Rene Caisse went to her

grave without disclosing the precise ingredients of her compound. There is

every reason to believe that the Essiac Tea sold in her name is nothing like

the original and is certainly not administered as she administered her

compound. Condemning the ‘inventor’ of Essiac Tea is rather like

saying that Rolex watches don’t work after you bought one on a street

corner in Hong Kong for only $20! It just might not be genuine.

And as for Burzynski, well, his biggest

sin was not to agree with the establishment. I’ve posted about him before

and I believe from what I know that he cures brain tumors in young children and

may well do a great deal more than that. If the steepness of fees are grounds

for dismissal of worth, then, from what I understand, doctors like Myers

and Strum would also be suspect.

The best example of disagreeing with the

Establishment in modern times seems to me to be Linus ing

and his studies on Vitamin C. The initial study by ing

and Cameron demonstrated survival data not all that far removed from that demonstrated

for Provenge. His concept was rejected following two studies run in the USA neither of

which followed his protocols. Anyone interested in the controversy – and a

good deal more about Vitamins and other supplements might like to read

the relevant Chapter of Choices In Healing: Integrating The Best of Conventional and

Complementary Approaches to Cancer by Lerner The entire book I available on the Internet. The chapter on

Vitamins is here http://www.commonweal.org/pubs/choices/12.html

All the best

Prostate men need enlightening, not

frightening

Terry

Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and

still going strong

Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Alan

Meyer

Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012

1:51 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: Re:

Salvestrols

Alan Meyer wrote:

....

> Credentials don't count for everything but they do count for

> something.

....

This is one of the problems we face with Dr. Burzynski. The man

really is a credentialed professor of oncology. He got the

education, passed the exams, and was accepted into the profession

at a high level. He does understand the science. So it's hard

to dismiss him on the same grounds that we might dismiss the

inventor of, say, Essiac tea.

Given his cynical seeming manipulation of the clinical trials

process, his steep fees, his lack of cooperation with the rest of

the scientific community, and other behaviors, my inclinations

are against him. The fact that so many other credentialed people

oppose him is not a strong point for him either.

But it illustrates a problem. We'd like to believe the experts,

but sometimes the experts disagree and, sometimes, we're not sure

they are honest.

So, while Burke and Potter have considerable credibility, we

can't completely suspend rational skepticism on that account.

Alan