Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Hi all, I just got back from the Rheumy and we talked about MTX shots, as I have been having stomach problems for a week now. He said that the MTX shots were unavailable right now. So that confirms what you have heard. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Bravo Harold for such an insightful post. I absolutely agree with you on the warnings we are given on just about everything in life whether it be medications, food or drink. Sometimes it feels as though you can find scientific research to prove just about any supposition you want to put forward. I think this theory also works in an opposite way when it concerns anecdotal evidence. For instance, my first rheumatologist told me that I could eat or drink absolutely anything and that there would be no difference in how it affected my RA and that there was no scientific evidence to prove that there was any connection between RA and diet. I know that for myself there is a very real connection between what I eat and how I feel. So I guess the answer is to take everything with a grain of salt, to know yourself and your body to the best of your ability and to be educated enough to understand the risks and consequences of your actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 It's fine for most people to take everything with a grain of salt but what about those who are on a low-salt diet? I saw something a couple of years ago before I started saving interesting links about diet and RA. They said that many people were significantly helped by a diet but that no single diet was uniformly better than another. I don't remember the details but I think they had some people cut out wheat, others cut out milk products, others cut out nightshades, or something like that. Some people in each group were helped. Then they had the people who were not helped try one of the other diets and some in each group was helped. It's kind of like the trial and error we have with RA medications. Some people are helped by a medicine but others are not. We have to find the right medicine or medicines and dose for us. I wish I could remember the details or find the link again but no luck. Anyway I think it was something like I said above but maybe wrong in many details. Most doctors only go by placebo-controlled tests that fit certain rigid requirements. I think a lot can be learned by looking at a wide variety of people and seeing what has helped them. In science we call this inductive reasoning instead of deductive reasoning. Much of the medical profession does not use most of the data that are available. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: gloriarex@... Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: urgent question Bravo Harold for such an insightful post. I absolutely agree with you on the warnings we are given on just about everything in life whether it be medications, food or drink. Sometimes it feels as though you can find scientific research to prove just about any supposition you want to put forward. I think this theory also works in an opposite way when it concerns anecdotal evidence. For instance, my first rheumatologist told me that I could eat or drink absolutely anything and that there would be no difference in how it affected my RA and that there was no scientific evidence to prove that there was any connection between RA and diet. I know that for myself there is a very real connection between what I eat and how I feel. So I guess the answer is to take everything with a grain of salt, to know yourself and your body to the best of your ability and to be educated enough to understand the risks and consequences of your actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yeah - before I got to your comments, Joe, I was just thinking I wanted to see the video of this Amazing Fog 'physically crushing' mold spores. Sounds like it would make quite an episode for Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom...lol! ~Haley joseph salowitz <josephsalowitz@...> wrote: In answer to Jeannene's request for info on a product called " Concrobium " , I came across this press release from it's manufacturer, for their upcoming participation in a home builders trade show in Orlando, Florida, next month. " Concrobium Mold Control is used by builders to pretreat materials for mold prevention and by renovators to fight existing mold. The unique product requires no special handling or isolation time, and can be used on virtually any surface including drywall, lumber, flooring, concrete, roofing, masonry and tile. The product can also be safely fogged to treat entire rooms or inaccessible spaces, such as wall cavities and crawlspaces. The unique solution works as it dries – forming an invisible, antimicrobial coating that encapsulates and physically crushes mold and fungal spores. The odorless, colorless coating remains on surfaces to provide continuous protection against mold and mildew growth. " Their product is " Sodium Carbonate " which has been mass produced for over 200 years, yet they claim it is patented. How can you " physically crush " mold and fungal spores, to make them non- toxic? Whats going on here? Is this " Concrobium " ? Or, is this just " CON " ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 js> Their product is " Sodium Carbonate " which has been mass produced for js> over 200 years, yet they claim it is patented. How can js> you " physically crush " mold and fungal spores, to make them non- js> toxic? Whats going on here? Is this " Concrobium " ? Or, is this js> just " CON " ? js> .................................................................. It must have little microbial fists on it. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Jeannene, it sounds like you are on the right track. The most important thing is to clean everything as well as you can and prevent it from happening again by ensuring that the humidity in those areas stays low by any means possible. You should also make sure that there is a strong barrier between your living space and the crawl space. I'm assuming that you are going to have fans going 24/7 to keep teh crawl space ventilated, but you should also figure out a way so that you are notified if the fans break down. From what I have heard you should also replace the top four inches of dirt if possible. You should also have venting down there so if the fans do break down there will be at least some ventilation. This is just me sort of guessing on this, I'm not a professional and to be honest I have never actually done mold remediation (it would probably kill me, I get really sick) so keep that in mind.. Others probably have some better suggestions. Those two areas are going to be hard to clean. I would focus attention on airproofing as much as possible. Careful use of closed cell foam (being careful to ventilate well as it cures) could be helpful. Use a smoke pencil to show you if there are any air leaks. If there are, close them. What is the insulation situation, there may be some serious condensation issues on your floor, I was just thinking. Wherever warm moist indoor air meets cold outside-connected surface, beware.. Can you create an insulated floor or add radiant floor heating or something. This is a question for experts. Check the buildingscience.com web site. Your floors are going to be cold. Ceilings, probably too. That is going to be a problem. Be very careful where you place that building envelope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 You know, I don't think we get over the mold paranoia. Here i am out of the toxic environment with only a few of my belongings, such as a few clothing items which were washed and disinfected and sealed in plastic before our move. We no longer have furniture. I got rid of bed room furniture, mattress sets and our 5 piece sectional and much much more. Now if I see a drop of water I worry about mold growing. We get so horrible sick from it that once we are out, we never want to be infected with mold again. I am still in my healing process so it is still not easy. Only difference now, I am not gagging and gasping for air. My doctor took an x-ray of my sinus and was amazed how much clearer it looked after leaving the mold...but, Jeannine, I don't think we will ever stop trying to prevent mold. Even if we get 100% well, we will always see it like leprosy. I am scared of mold and now I am afraid of moisture anywhere! I only buy a few cleaning items. The strongest is bleach and ammonia, but they are not for the house cleaning....I have to bleach my husbands socks every so often...really, only strong stuff I get is to wash his clothes! I will add ammonia and Ajax Dish washing liquid to the detergent for his clothes (not at the same time I am bleaching socks!LOL) and rinse 3 times, one with vinegar in the water an twice with plain water. He comes home with some greasy work clothes. I don't need all the cleaning stuff I needed before to do simple house work...just his clothes which is not so bad. If I don't go through the process, I can smell his clothes and that makes me ill now as well..it is not mold but some sort of grease they use. He makes gears for dodge. Anyway, using all this stuff is not bad becauase my washing and dryer is conceled from the rest of the house, thank goodness! Fighting mold was so draining and never ending. I am very tired from that crazy 7 year battle. battle. Moving into a new house seemed like my only option. Now we have to pray and pray we can keep up the payments. I want to go back to work but I am not 100% ready. I do think I might be able to handle a job a couple of days a week...just have to see. My husband is busting his rear end for this house but I think it makes him feel good to be owning something for once. Plus, he is not feeling so horrible in watching me have those horrible breathing problems. Not only was I breathing mold air, I got so weary of breathing cleaning fumes as well. Even the vinegar was starting to bother me. Sometimes I felt if the mold did not get me, the cleaning crap would! Anyway, I understand why you are asking about the product, you want to take all the steps you can to prevent any more mold from coming back. It is a horrible process all that cleaning and removing! --- JALD111@... wrote: <SNIP> > Right now...I think I am about as mold gun-shy as > you can get. I want it > OUT...every last drop, spore, toxin, etc. But I > want to make sure that I am > thorough and don't miss a single thing. So, I do > appreciate all of your input and > help. But for those of you who have questioned, > please know that I am not > looking at this as a short-cut, but as an additional > preventative measure on top > of everything else. > > Thanks again for all who have responded. > > Jeannene > > > ************** > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in > shape. > > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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