Guest guest Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 > Review of the following finds no problem in taking > Beta-Sitosterol, and though we don’t hear much about this > product, it appears to have some effect on cancer cells: > http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/jun2005_report_prostate_02.htm I've gotten the impression over the years that exercise, good ( " Mediterranean " ) diet, and certain foods or supplements like Beta-Sitosterol, resveratrol, pomegranate, maybe lycopene, maybe some vitamins, maybe " salvestrols " , maybe green tea, etc. can each have some effect on cancer. If a person has an aggressive cancer, these won't save him, but they might slow it down a bit and give him some life extension. If he has a slow-growing, indolent cancer, they might actually reduce it to a no-growing or even slightly shrinking cancer - enabling the patient to avoid more drastic treatment altogether. If that's right, then the key thing is to recognize that these things aren't going to cure you. What they're going to do is contribute to controlling the cancer. So don't stop seeing a specialist doctor and relying purely on these alternative therapies. Be sure to keep getting expert advice.    Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Alan, Do you have a good doctor (or other source) who advises on supplements? I actually think you can stop most PCa, with the right combination. But very difficult to figure out what that combination is. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 Alan, There's a ton of research out there on "natural" products that may work. The toxicity for most is low. I think a small group of smart researchers could put together a smart treatment plan in 6 months. Just no money to fund it and no money in it. Doug Messages 1a Re: BETA-SITOSTEROL Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:04 am (PDT) . Posted by: "dtc" sobysobe Alan, Do you have a good doctor (or other source) who advises on supplements? I actually think you can stop most PCa, with the right combination. But very difficult to figure out what that combination is. Doug Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (5) . Top ^ 1b Re: BETA-SITOSTEROL Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:36 pm (PDT) .. Posted by: "Alan Meyer" ameyer2 dtc <sobysobe> wrote: > Do you have a good doctor (or other source) who advises on supplements? I don't. I once asked a very good doctor about it and he said he thought there just wasn't enough high quality data available to draw any clear conclusions about what was helpful and what wasn't. I think he's right about the high quality problem. We get reports form this or that researcher, but not enough follow on to know whether anything is really useful or just could be useful. > I actually think you can stop most PCa, with the right combination. > > But very difficult to figure out what that combination is. > > Doug We really don't know enough. >From what I know about the biology of cancer, I believe that it is an extraordinarily difficult disease to treat. Surgery and radiation get around the problem by trying to just kill all the cancer cells. But using purely chemical means is difficult. One problem is that chemicals that are toxic to cancer cells are often toxic to healthy cells too. It's difficult to find chemicals that only kill cancer cells, and/or to get the chemicals to the cancer cells without having them affect all of the other cells. Another problem is that, even in a single patient, there are often different populations of tumor cells with different genetic characteristics. In most men, some cells are sensitive to hormone therapy but some are not. Some cells are sensitive to chemotherapy but some are not. It's a very "heterogenous" population of cells. I think all of the other treatments face the same problem. Some cells may be sensitive to them but if some aren't, those will continue to multiply until, eventually, they become the dominant cell type and the treatment stops working. So I think we'll make slow, steady progress, pushing out the length of time that treatments work, but it may be a while before we discover any big breakthrough drugs. Maybe, as you say, we'll find a dozen drugs that each contribute and, by taking them all at once, we can actually cure patients. The only thing I'm sure of is that our children and grandchildren will have more and better options than we have. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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