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Proton Beam Therapy and Sexual Side-effects

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I'm looking into proton beam therapy for a friend. The " Ten-Year Study "

that's referenced on the " Proton Bob " website talks about urinary

side-effects of proton beam therapy, but not sexual side-effects.

The Loma website makes this claim:

.. . . " This means a much lower chance of side effects

.. . . such as incontinence or impotence in prostate cancer patients. "

Can anyone point me to _data_ that supports that claim (as regards

impotence) ?

Thanks --

PS -- I'm looking for something statistical, not something anecdotal. I'll

be checking YANA next . . .

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I have had my prostate removed in 2007 (due to climbing count of

P.S.A.).Since then I feel lucky that at this point I am cancer free, but I

am no longer a complete male. And so I live with rage directed at myself. I

am reaching out to understand how best to deal with this.

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Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:03 pm (PDT)

, have you tried trimix? I had RALP Jan.28, 2010 and I have been on trimix

since early February 2011 and I love it. My wife and I have a normal sex life

(if you ignore the injections), and though the idea of penile injections can be

intimidating, I got used to it the second time. With just a little foreplay I

feel as good as new (I'm 69). A useful erection lasts about two hours for me so

there's no need to rush. Viagra did not work sufficiently well, so that's why I

went to trimix.

Mike

> I have had my prostate removed in 2007 (due to climbing count

> of P.S.A.).Since then I feel lucky that at this point I am

> cancer free, but I am no longer a complete male. And so I live

> with rage directed at myself. I am reaching out to understand

> how best to deal with this.

,

I understand your feelings. Many of us have experienced

impotence and know what you are talking about.

I'm not sure what to say to you that will help. Different people

have different needs and I'm no better than anyone else at

understanding another person, but I'm going to try.

I'll begin by saying that I think that you are still every bit as

much of a man as you were before your treatment and as much as

any other man. You shouldn't think of yourself any other way.

You are not less attractive to women than you were. You are not

less able to have a happy and satisfying relationship.

You can provide every bit as much sexual satisfaction and

gratification to a woman as you could before, and maybe even

more. If a stiff penis were required to arouse a woman and bring

her to an orgasm, there wouldn't be any lesbians in the world. I

think the truth is that many women are actually put off and

turned off by men's single minded focus on penetration. In fact,

as they get older, women suffer changes of their own that make

penetration more painful than it was and less satisfying.

Most women wish their sexual partners would pay more attention to

their women's desires and needs. They wish that their men would

take more time, learn more about what their partner wants, and

keep trying to improve. And when a man does all that, he can

discover a world of excitement and gratification that too many

men don't even know exists. He may also find that his partner is

more interested and attracted to him than she was before.

If you try bimix or trimix, you may very well find that you can

have erections of any hardness or duration that you want. But

before you do that, I suggest that you explore all of the sexual

ideas and experiences that you may have ignored until now and

learn more about sex than you used to know. Learn more about how

to satisfy a woman. Learn how exciting it can be for you when

you excite her to a higher level than in the past. Learn more

about what you like even without an erection. Treat this as an

opportunity to grow, not as an irreparable loss.

If you do that, you'll be a lot more of a man, and a lot more

useful to a woman, than a brash youngster who is proud of his

physique but hasn't yet learned anything about women.

Alan

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:

Alan was absoultely correct in his description of how to deal with women. As my

wife used to say: most of you guys don't have a clue about which buttons to push

and how.

Having said that here is my (typical) prgression to erctile function:

A few months after RP and without a useful erection my Uro prescribed one of the

Viagra clones, Levitra I think. It didn't work and gave me a two day headache.

He then prescribed a vacuum pump. This thing works by creating a vacuum and

sucking blood into the penis. It WILL do that, even on a cadaver I suspect. But

to hold the erection after the vacuum is removed you place a rubber ring around

the penis. This worked but an orgasm with this artificial thing grabbing the

base of my penis just wasn't going to happen.

Then he tried a hormone injection, a bi-mix in my case. It worked within ten

minutes. Once you get over the clinical part of injecting yourself, it is just

like normal sex. The erection lasts for an hour or more.

So face up to your problem and see your uro about a fix. As he said before the

surgery: if you want an erection, I can give you an erection. He did.

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Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:38 pm (PDT)

Hi Bill:

Welcome to our little gang.

You posted

" Prostectamy in 1997. Have used PC-Spes; Donsbach's PC-Plus,

Prostasol

and Quercetin Plus; MedPros' ProstaSol. "

Here is the caution: There is no scientific evidence that those

nostrums are curative. They often contain undisclosed drugs that

could be hazardous to one's health.

Here is a copy of my March 20 post on PCS re: Donsbach and a bit

on his years of quackery. He pleaded guilty to 13 felonies

involving quackery and, Bog alone knows why, was once again

sentenced to probation.

...........

(1) The latest vlog (video blog) from Dr. Snuffy Myers references

Quercetin Plus (QP) and " Dr. " Donsbach. Snuffy is very critical. See:

http://www.prostateforum.com/ask-dr-myers.html

(2) The latest on Donsbach, marketer of QP who was arrested last

year: he pleaded guilty to thirteen felonies: five counts of

practicing medicine without a license, five counts of

selling/distributing misbranded drugs, and one count each of of

attempted grand theft, grand theft, and being a felon in

possession of a firearm. He also admitted that he personally

inflicted a great bodily injury on one of the victims related to

the unlicensed practice of medicine. The Court agreed to sentence

Donsbach to probation, which will include restrictions against

practicing medicine and distributing dietary supplements, and

possible custody in the county jail. Per National Council Against

Health Fraud http://www.ncahf.org/digest10/10-50.html

...........

Much information about Donsbach and the various nostrums you have

taken will be found at http://www.quackwatch.org/index.html

I have given information on this and other heartless medical

criminals to some folks who turned out to be True Believers ,

convinced that Quackwatch is dishonest (no evidence, of course)

and all this about Donsbach and his ilk is part of the Giant AMA

Conspiracy Against Complementary Medicine.

Regards,

Steve J

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facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget

'what the stars foretell,' avoid opinion, care not what the

neighbors think, never mind the unguessable 'verdict of history'

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