Guest guest Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012  People often ask me how I can see what is going on with illness and other things, even though I do not have the scietific expertise to explain it is a technical way. I see it mainly because I do not accept the scientific worlds explanation of things, it is based on Darwin' theory of Evolution and it is also not designed to find cures it is designed to make profits for the individuals involved in it  Now, I worked in that field for a long time, not in a big role, but in a role that required some humility, ie caring for severely disabled children. I new nothing then of all this Bechamp and Pasteur stuff and all the other things I have learned about these past few years but I did know, even back then and could see even back then that telling the truth within the scientific community often lead to severe reactions, so severe those telling the truth usually left  But, saying this there are some folk still within that community that also see the falseness of Darwind Theory and they have developed skills to deal with the endless backlash they get for knowing it and standing up for it, I do not have their strength, which is why I got out, but I do whenever I come across one of these individuals do anything and all I can to support them, I indeed will go the extra mile for such a person  Anyway, when people find out I do not believe in Evolution they sometimes then pull away from me. I do know that sometimes folk that do not beleive in evolution are portrayed as being rather odd on the TV and some are odd and this is why these folk think I am strange too. I did used to get upset about this at one time and really really try to convince some folk of what I know, but now I am less bothered about it, I see that not all folk are going to see what I see  For those that are interested in what I am saying then to my way of thinking it is a good idea to study the theories of a devolving world. These theories state that there was a time when this world was perfect and humans, animals, all creatures were able to live here without disease, without death even, some argue. But because of human interferance and the toxicity we have created every single creature now is hanging on for dear life, and that all creatures are being forced to change genetically to cope with this environment. These same scientists that believe in the devolving theory generally say this world has little time left and given all that we humans are doing even this genetic mutations we see going on, in an attempt to survive this onslaught, it is not going to be enough, these creatures are not going to be able to survive the pollution is too much  And so it is each generation is ending up weaker than the last more deformed than the last, suffering more than the last. Folk find this idea intriguing, and can when i tell them about this see some truth in it but then do not, so much look for the proof. But the proof is there, indeed join in with any scientific project, anything from what goes on with oil spills in the sea, radition leaks, pollution from aircraft, anything and have a look what happens to the wild life involved. Almost immediately, or certainly within a few years the scientist find the mutations, which are the creature trying to cope with the toxicity, and the deformities, which is the result of that creatures body failing to win the battles. Sometimes there is sacrifice too, ie sickle cell illness is a protection of maleria, but the argument we that believe in the devolution ideas is that if the environment is restored and these people, even though deformed in some manner can have a much better quality of life in an environment that does not give them anymore wrong food, bad air, poor soil etc, and in many circumstances even where the body has changed to adapt to the environment reversal is also possible. I do know that people that have the genes for Cystic fibrosis, tend to always have the condition but those that eat correctly and live in a nurturing environmement can live twice as long and much better than those that do not. I have seen this repeated over and over with many other so called genetic disorders too  Anyway, this idea of devolving is not just apparent in humans it is the same for animals and all of nature but despite all the junk that is thrown at it it has somekind of mechanism in it, in all cells this is that not only is working to keep that particular particle, or creature alive, the way each and every part of the whole works is also as a complemete to the surroundings. It is as if we, humans and animals, will survive much better if what we do is in keeping with the laws of nature. And so if we go one step further and look in our gardens and watch the wildlife there we see all are helping each other out in some manner.  The evolutionist argue for survival of the fittest, andI see this sometimes but there is also the survival of the group that work together to ensure a better environment, and this is most clearly illustrated inside a compost bin  In a compost bin, each creature is working for its own survival but ironically at the same time through its work it is feeding others and so in turn all get fed and refed. This is similar to what is going on in our guts, we have all these microbes breaking stuff up and from what they pass out the other end so to speak we benefit. The more we can facilitate this natural occuring process the more we as a living being can benefit, and this is simply what I see  And it does a person an enormous amount of good to see the world in this simplistic way. To not just believe, but accept, because it is true, that this world was designed for humans and animals to live in. It has all gone wrong now, we all recognise that, but the truth is as bad as it is, and believe me I do fully understand this truth too, it is indeed very bad, very far from where it should be this planet, but truely as bad as it is, those that give up the scolarly explanations for things and seek out the more basic, more inocent minded way of looking at things, these folk find the answers they are looking for and gain the reward too  You know sometimes, when I am at church I see some people who live really basic lives. I think I am basic because I live with little money and live detached but with much love, and I do think i have some humility, but sometimes I meet people who literally live in constant prayer and live with literally nothing and are just so very very gentle, and they do not have the rough around the edges thing I have. And you know these folk can teach me do much. The last one I met was a homeless man. He was in a big cathedral type church, he was there explaining to me all the marvels of this church its history and so on. He told me he spent hours there each day, praying for the poor. This man had no home or belongings and yet he was so very intelligent and so very warm, and loving. He had adopted a very simplistic life, far to austire for me, I can tell you, and yet he had this glow with him.  Folk often critisize these folk as lazy, not wanting to be in the real world and so on, but when I was with this man I simply wondered how many people in any one day does this guy inspire. he certainly inspired me  Anyway, I am going to read through this article you have sent. My dad said, there is no way they will be putting worms in him, but he does not mind the levadopa dies he? LOL. you know there are days when I could bop him. My hubby said, he will change his mind when a man in a white coat with a stephascope around hs neck is saying it, so true so true  Here is an article explaining a little about the idea of a devolving world  http://www.helium.com/debates/97230-is-the-human-race-evolving-or-devolving/side\ _by_side  Love Joane     To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2012, 3:58 Subject: Re: :Symbiotic Relationship  Joanne, We may have seen this before, but it was interesting in that it talked about Mucus production increased, and wound healing. Mucus is important to healing. I read some of the comments in the article, some very interesting, in that one guy's food tolerances and migraines went away. Others talked about the use of human whipworms were better, in that the pig one caused more side effects, and was commonly used because they died in 2 weeks. Others were using different worms and a combination. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=helminthic-therapy-mucus This one on bacteria mention an example of how they turn a foreign substance, benzoate into a useful compound. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-bacteria-gene-complement-d I do not believe in Evolution, but do believe life was created to adapt and still remain " according to its kind " We were created to adapt to the environment-whether it is it the food found there, or other forms of life. I am not saying it can, always work perfectly, as we do not know that other variable may have been tampered with, or even be now extinct, plus now man tries to kill them off, and they have to change and adapt. They have to adapt to more and more pollution, and chemicals. We may ask, why did God make human, and pig whipworms, but for our, and their good. Worms/bacteria in the garden, and worms/bacteria, to clean up our bodies. some worms are used by docs to eat/clean up diseased tissue. I think you can see where I am going with this. Obviously, now there is an unbalance in nature, as man moves life around, and pollutes it. The more man tries to help himself, and the world, the more he causes problems. 10:23 It is humbling that we, and the greatest, best educated minds of our day, really do not understand all this. C. > > >  >  I was wrong Bee is not saying parasites are part of the pleomorphic process, she knows they are symbiotic with us doesn't she. >  > I could see she agreed they were good for us, but I myself was not certain that they could cross the stomach acid. I now see that the eggs could do so because there are gastric coated tablets that get through the acid. Because I could not see how the parasites got to the small intestine I could not see how they could be coming from outside >  > I now see Bee knows they are coming from the outside but still regards them as helpful. This seems to contradict Bechamps theory some, but it does not if we regard the parasites as something different to pathogens. Also like you mentioned we do not always know the benefit, only realise they are beneficial when they are gone. Some research say the worms are calming to the immune system, that autoimmune illness is far less likely when we have worms, nobody really knows why buy some how the worms seem to be stoping the body attacking itself, this is what is claimed >  > Me, I do not know. I do know that if it was affordable the worm therapy is something I would consider, mainly because it is restoring the gut to what it would have been before industrialisation. >  > I told myu dad about it tonight, he did not like the idea of it. I told him not to worry he did not need the worms, the diet does get the ecology well enough without them >  > Thanks for helping me understand this better, I kind of did understand some of it, but really could not see how the worms could get into the gut, this makes far more sense now >  > Love Joanne >  > > > To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 14:18 > Subject: Re: news today on use of parasite eggs > > >  > Hi Tina, > > Parasites have a symbiotic relationship to the host. They may get nourishment, but they impart a benefit, but we may not know exactly what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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