Re: Re: Extremely tired and stresses/

[Guest guest]

and Joanne,

Just wanted to throw something out here in case you are interested.  I went to

a natural doctor recently.  He did all kinds of test checking my thyroid,

vitamin d, etc.  Anyway I was told that when all the test were back they would

call me.  It has been about 5 weeks and I haven't heard a word so I guess he

don't know what to do with me.

Anyway what I wanted to tell you is he recommended a CD collection, The Power of

Now.  I debated on whether I should get the book or the CD's but since he said

CD's that's what I got.  This stuff is really deep.  It is about quieting the

mind and living in the present.  What he says is that we keep reliving the past

and worrying about the future.  I wish now that I had gotten the book instead

so that when I am desperate I could pick it up and read. 

You might try googling and see if this would be helpful.  It all makes sense

because the mind and body is so connected but I just haven't really applied

myself to doing it yet.

Love,

Lovell

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:54 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Extremely tired and stresses/

 

 

As we start to get well our awareness of what is really going on becomes

clearer. It is sometimes better not to make any knee jerk reactions. Instead it

is sometimes easier just to observe ourselves and see what we are doing that is

adding to our own misery.

 

My main problem was the way I kept mulling over every little thing and even

listening out, waiting for the next episode.

 

It would go quiet for a while and my heart would start pounding because I though

somebody could be actually dead

 

I would wait and wait and wait and there was no sound so I would go and take a

look, only to find out the silence was one big wind up

 

Yes, they had me hooked alright, and like I said in past emails, I did in the

end have to move out. But I know many folk that do not have to, they are able to

stay where they are but simply change the way they are living with it

 

I really do not know what would be best for you, remember I am not there and

cannot see it, but I would at least for one day or so try to see if you can tune

out from it all

 

I use earphones a lot, and I do have places I can go when things are not great

for me. I have the library, and loads of churches are open through the day and

barely a soul goes in them, and there is the museum and many other places

 

I would sneak off to these places and journal and really work on myself helping

myself in the most kindest of ways. As I got the diet more in place I could feel

myself getting well and this gave me a lot more strength to cope with

everything.

 

I did move out in the end, sadly to not quit the best of places, but by then at

least my mind was becoming more and more normal and my sense of reality was

better.

 

A really good Christian woman helped me find a home, and to this day I still

live here and it is lovely

 

Anyway, what ever you decide to do God will help you and he will send people

that will help you, but you more than anything need to help you, in regards to

this having a new life thing

 

It will only get you down if you move out and then have to move back in again.

It might be better just to see if there are free or very cheap places you can go

to

 

If you have to eat a cafe or somewhere like this, a burger with butter and sea

salt, are not too bad, or you might find a place that sells plain chicken

 

This is a different way of living and it really does take some adjusting, but if

you can get some strength from the diet you might be able to just simply go and

sit in the park, at least when the sun is shining.

 

If I was you I would get some A4 writing pads. You really do need to do some

writing and see where small changes will make a difference for you. I did this

and on the front of each journal i wrote things like, my health, finance, my

relationship and emotional struggles, my psycholgical health, my spiritual life,

my future etc, and every day i would journal what I had done so far, what I

wanted to do and what I could do.

 

This journalling really helped me put things into perspective and helped me

recognise all my options big and small

 

Anyway the earphones idea might help, and also just going sitting at a bus stop

can sometimes be more rewarding that sitting in the house. Just make sure you

are journalling because when we are under stress like you are under right now,

our minds race and we miss so very much

 

Love joanne

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012, 3:04

Subject: Re: Extremely tired and stresses/

 

Hi joanne

Ive gotten to the point Ill need to spend money on staying in hotel room often

so I dont lose my sanity and or end up in hospital that means no money to spare

for Bee.

Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > > Bee will be able to tell you best if you should start the diet now or

later. She has been using ketogenic diets now for over 20 years. i have only

been doing this a few years and only know the basics. Bee will know what to ask

you and will know a lot about how best to do the diet when pregnant, i have no

experience regarding this, but bee has a lot of experience in regards to many

situations.

> > >  

> > > She is also somewhat older than me and Bee can remember a time when the

diet in the west was not so bad as it is now, and she also knows about a lot of

old fashioned remedies. i know some things, mainly what I have learned from Bee,

and the other people i have mentioned on the main email i sent to the board

recently, but still my knowlege is limited, and i am still learning. if it was

my daughter that was pregnant and in similar circumstances to yourself i would

give her a gentle nudge to email Bee via her Candida site, mainly because bee

knows more than me and her info is free. I do like Natasha on the GAPS site and

Dr Mercola on the Mercola site, and many of the other folk I have mentioned, but

consultations with these folk are very expensive, Bee charges $50 for phone

consulations, but me and many of the other folk i know that are doing Bees diet

do not pay for consultations we just ask for help via her candida board and this

is enough

> > >  

> > > Now regarding how i cope with my difficult life

> > >  

> > > My life is hard because i am caring for so many people that are ill and

because i have so little money, and other stuff, like dealing with all the

addiction on my family, and just every day stuff too. I have my own illness too

to contend with, and in my everyday life there is not one person that can help

me at all with that, but luckily there are folk here on this board that can help

me with that

> > >  

> > > Anyway, in the past, when i was younger, i was so very sad because nothing

in my life was going right, and even when I tried really hard to get myself on

my feet and do well, my family would always create dramas and sabotage

everything I tried to do. I got so very ill, it is hard to even explain how bad

things got for me because frankly I did not know things could get that bad for

anybody

> > >  

> > > But when I joined the 12 step groups I learned that there are indeed many

people in this world that get in similar messes to what I got into

> > >  

> > > I had to attend the 12 step groups for a while to understand what these

folk were saying to me, and frankly I could not understand a lot of it. My head

was so fogged up with Candida and what ever else was in my head, it all just

sounded like waffle to me. But as the weeks went by I began to realise that this

deep sad state I was in was far more serious than I thought

it was. 

> > >  

> > > I was dying , and I am not exagerating when I say

that. My illness had progressed to a terribly bad place and nobody was helping

me, no doctors were helping, my family were not helping, and even these folk at

Alanon, although really lovely folk, really lovely folk, there was only so much

they could do to help me. But the one good thing was these folk at Alanon did

know the reality of all this. They too had suffered a lot, a

very lot in the past, just like I had and they had managed to get themselves out

of the mess they had been in. Some of them had had to move out, and I realised I

had to move away too, but many did not have to, in fact most managed to stay

living in their homes and really this is what Alanon is about, it is about

helping people to stay living with their families even though

all this silly business is going on

> > >  

> > > Now I can here, on this site share some of how I cope, but

my way is just my way and only really right for me, to find

your own way you would be doing yourself a favour if you speak to many people

that belong to these kinds of groups,

there should be at least a few in your area

> > >  

> > > Anyway, what I do if go to the library a lot. Here

there are not many roudy people, it is usually peaceful and I can use the

computer and chat to folk here at this site etc. I also go for walks in the

park. I used to struggle to walk and could only get from

bench to bench, and at the time it seemed

like a waste of time, but it was not a waste of time because this was giving me

some exercise. I also go and sit in churches. I am a Catholic and mainly I

visit Catholic churches but I also go to many other kinds of

churches and I find this so heart warming. When I visit the

churches I often do not speak much with anybody, I just listen to

the sermon and read their literature and admire their art

work and so on. this passes the day for me and it helps me

not feel so sad and lonely, it helps me realise

that God is close to me

> > >  

> > > I also go to many second hand markets. I do not think you have many of

these in the USA, but I think maybe you have what are called garage sales, which

are roughtly the same thing. At these markets I have a really

good time and I really enjoy it. Sometimes I have only a tiny

amount of money on me but I do find some really good bargains

an this can make my day. I have been to one this weekend and

whilst there I found some CDs and DVDs that were only 50p and

they were all things I really enjoy, like O'Donnel in

concert, and a Bible video about Magdelene

> > >  

> > > As I walk around there markets I talk to myself like I am my very best

friend, like I am a kind teacher, or my own mom. I am really consoling and kind

to myself, I look for everything that is good in me and think about what a gift

it is to be alive and how wonderful it is to be a child of

God. 

> > >  

> > > When I look after myself in this gentle way it is much easier for me to

cope with all the craziness in my family, and i do not get down so much

> > >  

> > > I am being shouted now, again, but when I get chance I will be online

again. 

> > >  

> > > It is easier to cope with all this if we try to live in the present moment

and find what is good in that moment

> > >  

> > > Love Joanne 

> > >

> > > From: marian <mn_211@>

> > > To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com

> > > Sent: Monday, 27 August 2012, 14:11

> > > Subject: Extremely tired and stresses

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > > Hi Joanne and group.

> > >

> > > I've no where to go and feel extremely tired and sick as my sleep is cut 3

hours daily due to loud noise and drama.

> > >

> > > I have no where to go not even a vehicle,just this house. It's not safe to

go for walksalone,I always wait until husband off at 6pm to go out.

> > > I'll be cutting walls very short because of being tired.

> > >

> > > I just feel can't eat and force myself to get up to get liquids.

> > >

> > > Should I even attempt the bee program at this point?

> > >

> > > I do have supplements and right food.

> > >

> > > I just sit outside and cry a lot. I've gotten very quiet.

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Tina,

You are very welcome and I hope you will be able to utilize the book.  Please

let me know how it goes.  If you do well with it, I may still order the book.

I know what you mean about your situation and raising kids and all that .  My

kids have turned out to be responsible human beings and I am grateful for that.

 My marriage has always been my problem.  Back before I was diagnosed with

fibromyalgia  they were sending me to a psychiatrist and he told me that many

years ago that if I didn't get out of the mess I was in I would never be well.

 Things are somewhat better now but it really is hard to make a happy marriage

with someone that thinks the world revolves them.  Anyway, enough of that.  I

definitely need to read and apply the " Power of Now.  Please keep me informed

about the book.

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:30 AM

Subject: Re: Extremely tired and stresses/

 

Lovell,I wanted to thank you for posting this.This is me,I live in the past,and

worry about the future.Sounds like the kind of book I would love to read,and i

just ordered it.Mostly,i guess i live in the past,becasue i hate the way things

are now.My life.My situation.Lonf for the carefree days of youth,when I had no

responsibilities.I love my kids,but,dang,i need a break from them.been raing

kids for 26 years,and my son ,will never grow up,and leave home.Seems,there are

not that many friendly people anymore.Or people that care about anything

important,like their fellow man.Anyway,thankyou again for posting this.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Bee will be able to tell you best if you should start the diet now or

later. She has been using ketogenic diets now for over 20 years. i have only

been doing this a few years and only know the basics. Bee will know what to ask

you and will know a lot about how best to do the diet when pregnant, i have no

experience regarding this, but bee has a lot of experience in regards to many

situations.

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > She is also somewhat older than me and Bee can remember a time when the

diet in the west was not so bad as it is now, and she also knows about a lot of

old fashioned remedies. i know some things, mainly what I have learned from Bee,

and the other people i have mentioned on the main email i sent to the board

recently, but still my knowlege is limited, and i am still learning. if it was

my daughter that was pregnant and in similar circumstances to yourself i would

give her a gentle nudge to email Bee via her Candida site, mainly because bee

knows more than me and her info is free. I do like Natasha on the GAPS site and

Dr Mercola on the Mercola site, and many of the other folk I have mentioned, but

consultations with these folk are very expensive, Bee charges $50 for phone

consulations, but me and many of the other folk i know that are doing Bees diet

do not pay for consultations we just ask for help via her candida board and this

is enough

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Now regarding how i cope with my difficult life

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > My life is hard because i am caring for so many people that are ill and

because i have so little money, and other stuff, like dealing with all the

addiction on my family, and just every day stuff too. I have my own illness too

to contend with, and in my everyday life there is not one person that can help

me at all with that, but luckily there are folk here on this board that can help

me with that

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Anyway, in the past, when i was younger, i was so very sad because

nothing in my life was going right, and even when I tried really hard to get

myself on my feet and do well, my family would always create dramas and sabotage

everything I tried to do. I got so very ill, it is hard to even explain how bad

things got for me because frankly I did not know things could get that bad for

anybody

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > But when I joined the 12 step groups I learned that there are indeed

many people in this world that get in similar messes to what I got into

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I had to attend the 12 step groups for a while to understand what these

folk were saying to me, and frankly I could not understand a lot of it. My head

was so fogged up with Candida and what ever else was in my head, it all just

sounded like waffle to me. But as the weeks went by I began to realise that this

deepÃÆ'‚ sad state I was in was far more

serious than I thought it was.ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I was dying , and I am not exagerating when

IÃÆ'‚ say that. My illness had progressed

to a terribly bad place and nobody was helping me, no doctors were helping, my

family were not helping, and even these folk at Alanon, although really lovely

folk, really lovely folk, there was only so much they could do to help me. But

the one good thing was these folk at Alanon did know the reality

ofÃÆ'‚ all this. They too had suffered a

lot, a very lot in the past, just like I had and they had managed to get

themselves out of the mess they had been in. Some of them had had to move out,

and I realised I had to move away too, but many did not have to, in fact most

managed to stay living in their homes and really this is what Alanon is about,

it is about helping people to stay living with their

familiesÃÆ'‚ even though all this silly

business is

going on

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Now I can here, on this site share some of how I cope, but

myÃÆ'‚ way is just my way and only really

right for me, to find your own way you would be doing yourself a favour if you

speak to many people thatÃÆ'‚ belong to

theseÃÆ'‚ kinds of groups, there should be

at least a few in your area

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Anyway, what I do ifÃÆ'‚ go to the

library a lot. Here there are not many roudy people, it is usually peaceful and

I can use the computer and chat to folk here at this site etc. I also go for

walks in the park. IÃÆ'‚ used to struggle

to walk and could only get from bench to

bench,ÃÆ'‚ and at the time

itÃÆ'‚ seemed like a waste of time, but it

was not a waste of time because this was giving me some exercise. I also go and

sit in churches. I am a Catholic and mainly I

visitÃÆ'‚ Catholic churches but I also go

to many other kinds of churches and

IÃÆ'‚ find this so heart warming. When I

visit the churches I often do not speak much with anybody, I just listen to

theÃÆ'‚ sermon and read their

literature and admire their art work and so on. this passes the

dayÃÆ'‚ for me and it helps me not feel so

sad and lonely, it helps me realise

> that God is close to me

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I also go to many second hand markets. I do not think you have many of

these in the USA, but I think maybe you have what are called garage sales, which

are roughtlyÃÆ'‚ the same thing. At these

markets I have a really good time and I

reallyÃÆ'‚ enjoy it. Sometimes I have only

a tiny amount of money on me but I do find some really

goodÃÆ'‚ bargains an this can make my day.

I have been to one this weekendÃÆ'‚ and

whilst there I found someÃÆ'‚ CDs and DVDs

that were only 50p and they were

allÃÆ'‚ things I really enjoy, like

O'Donnel in concert, and a Bible video about Magdelene

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > As I walk around there markets I talk to myself like I am my very best

friend, like I am a kind teacher, or my own mom. I am really consoling and kind

to myself, I look for everything that is good in me and think about what a gift

it is to be alive and how wonderful it is to be a child of

God.ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > When I look after myself in this gentle way it is much easier for me to

cope with all the craziness in my family, and i do not get down so much

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > I am being shouted now, again, but when I get chance I will be online

again.ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > It is easier to cope with all this if we try to live in the present

moment and find what is good in that moment

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Love JoanneÃÆ'‚ 

> > > >

> > > > From: marian <mn_211@>

> > > > To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com

> > > > Sent: Monday, 27 August 2012, 14:11

> > > > Subject: Extremely tired and stresses

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Hi Joanne and group.

> > > >

> > > > I've no where to go and feel extremely tired and sick as my sleep is cut

3 hours daily due to loud noise and drama.

> > > >

> > > > I have no where to go not even a vehicle,just this house. It's not safe

to go for walksalone,I always wait until husband off at 6pm to go out.

> > > > I'll be cutting walls very short because of being tired.

> > > >

> > > > I just feel can't eat and force myself to get up to get liquids.

> > > >

> > > > Should I even attempt the bee program at this point?

> > > >

> > > > I do have supplements and right food.

> > > >

> > > > I just sit outside and cry a lot. I've gotten very quiet.

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >