Guest guest Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Joanne, I read your reply and I just can say that Bee's diet is very difficult and people heal and react in different ways. We also need to consider the length of the disease and the environment we lived in, our emotional, psychological and economic situation. I have been doing the diet for 8 months and I don't see a lot of progress. I do look better and most people tell me I look younger but other than that I still have a lot of fatigue and little energy. I read Dianetics and I don't like it. Dianetics is the basis for the Church of Scientology, which is a sect. I am a free thinker and do not like to blindly follow any group of people telling me that theirs is the only solution for everything. Some of the writing is interesting but it is mainly pseudo science, but if people want to follow it and it helps them, they should be allowed to do so. I agree with you that our emotional state of mind is very complex and we need different types of help. I have done therapies but have always come to the conclusion that they can help me so much, and then I just stop it. They tend to tell you that you need longer, but first it is too expensive and second I realize they are going in circles, so I do what I think is best for me, just stop and use other techniques. I think the best in life is to be your own person, consider the history of things, other experiences and ultimately your experience. It is very important to be a critical thinker (in a rational and healthy sense) and be able to find what is best for you. Saludos, Paz > > Judy >  > Yes I do think Bee is saying that worms and parasites are pathogens, created by the pleomorphic process, and that there main role is to break up food and other substances and also part digesting the nutrtion from these so that the body can absorb these better and also breaking down the toxicity so that the body can more easily dispose of it >  > My own vew is I am not certain if worms and parasites are coming about because of the pleomorphic process or another process >  > You see with this idea that bechamp as I, like other people tend to try to make it fit into what I ahve been taught. But when we think about this logically really there is no reason why the worms and parasites should not appear out of this process, their function is the same as all other pathogens they are breaking dowm food and other substances and are providing us with a better version of the nutrient, a more digestable form of it, and they are enabling the body to dispose of the toxicity in our gut. And further more there is even evidence that when the worms are not present, people become extremely ill, and when they are present not only is that population healthy, they are also much more content, since it seems the worms, keep all the pathogen community working correctly and the immune system generally working correctly >  > So Bees idea that they are comoing out of the pleomrphic process is probably the most correct and this Idea I have that they might be evolving by themselves does seem to be off the mark and pandering more towards the germ theory which I totally disagree with >  > I am with bee on the idea that we do not catch worms or parsites, that they are already there and that we need them and that we should not kill them. I totally agree with her on that, my difficulty is accepting that a pathogen evolved into one of these things, it is like my mind wants them to be something different >  > But I think what we need to do is ask how do these things come about, do the parents of them have sex, does the mother carry them, do they develop inside eggs. Or do these things develop in the body from a tiny egg, a somitid, I think bechamp calls them and does the 'feteus' if we can call it that simply grow on its own, not carried not nursed, nothing like that just egg to fully formed, and what ever processes inbetween >  > Regarding the plaque in the brains of folk with ALS Parkinsons Alzheimers etc. I think we need to think about how plaque appears in the body or indeed anywhere generally. If you think about your own teeth and about having them cleaned by an hygenist. When you go the hygenist removes all the plaque and the bacteria and you leave her office with perfectly white teeth. You gwet home and there is a mad scientist sat in your living room who says, I have some bacteria here can I put this on your teeth. You are so shocked you say yes and he does it and you wait, just like he waits for the plaque to appear. Of course it does not appear because bacteria does not create plaque. A few hours later you say to the mad scientist, look I am hingry I need a biscuit, and you go in the kitchen and you eat a biscuit, and later a few more and the next day you look in your mouth and there you find your first traces of plaque. you decide not to clean your teeth and just leave > it there. For the next few days you eat lots of biscuits and lots more plaque appears. And of course, even though you cannot see it, the pathogens also appear and they start breaking up the plaque for you >  > Notice here that it makes no sense to say oh the scientist put bacteria in my mouth and then plaque appeared, this cannot happen. You need a toxin, which in this case is the biscuits, to create the plaque and then once you have the plaque the pathogens have something to feed on. >  > Now a brain full of plaque will like our mouths also have a lot of pathogens in it munching away on it, but a brain that has no plaque will not have any pathogens there that normally deal with the plaque because there will be no plaque there for them to deal with so no need at all to have the pathogens there either, and this includes worms. What would the worms be doing in a brain that was not all messed up with toxicity, and what on earth would worms be doing creating plaque. if worms could invade us and then get in our brains and start spewing plaque all over the place we as a race would have died out years ago because we would not have been able to see these creatures and they would have clogged out our brains with so much of this plaque we would not have been able to survive it >  > but instead what we find is that when people eat the modern diet and live in the western culture. then their brains get full of plaque and then their brains get full of pathogens, including in some cases worms and parasite and also these same folk with all the plaque etc these folk start up with healing reactions and have other signs of illness. all this is the body trying to remove the toxicity that is leading to the plaque build up, ie stuff from our diet and toxins in general. And we go to the doctor, and he finds the pathogens, or worms or what ever, or at least he says he has. he then gives the patient, anti fungals, antibiotics anit-parasite meds or what ever. the pateient goes home tries the meds, finds he/she feels much much better, until of course the plaque, which is still there spreads and before you know it the patient has a 'plaquey' brain but no pathogens to clear it >  > listen, Judy do not take it to heart what bee said about not being able to help you. The truth is Bee wants to help anybody and everybody that she can, but when folk have had surgery or stents put in, or anything like this and the operations that have taken plce not only mean the person will have enormous problems with the diet but that because of these operations it could make the diet dangerous, she simply does not take certain things on incase something goes wrong and it looks like it is the diet when in fact it is the surgery. But not just that either. I read her posts once where she was talking to somebody that had had a stent and she told them, as long as the stent is there your body will be trying to reject that, and so my diet will not be of use. but since that time I have read her posts and seen her say, to another problem with much the same thing that she could not help, but that person insisted she could help them, and in the end she > backed down and said, OK, you tell me how you get on >  > It is not that Bee is being nasty or anything like that she is genuinely thinking of the person and indeed the unfairness of misleading folk by saying she can help when she cannot be certain all will be OK. Bee would rather be honest. But if you know you can do this and, which I know you are, you are willing to take responsibility for yourself Bee will not be against you, I can assure you she will not be >  > Listen, Bee does not agree with many many many things I say. For one thing she does not agree that people like myself need to do this diet ketogenically, she thinks that is psychological. She also does not agree with me that addiction needs to be dealt with as a separate issue. she claims addiction is malnutrition, and indeed it may be, but also, most definately in my case it is to do with unresolved stuff. bee says use dianetics, and i am not against that, just cant afford it nor understand it >  > I beleive that addiction needs to be dealt with as a spiritual matter and in much the same manner as the way the 12 step groups work. But bee says these groups keep us addicted >  > Plus she thinks smoking is pretty harmless, I really do not think so!!!! >  > Anyway, I am still happy with what bee has told me and although she does not agree with the long term ketosis thing, I still say her diet is the only diet that is of any use to a person wanting to eat right and do a diet ketogenically. and also as much as she thinks dianetics is the only answer to psychological trauma, and I think rather differently about this, I do not mind at all that she thinks these things because she is still a good person and she is indeed making a difference to my life and many people. >  > And sometimes you know when you look at all the earache she gets, I simply do not know how she does it >  > If you do still want me to ask Bee about the plaque in the brain I will do so, but I really think she is just going to print the main causes of disease list, that is what she usually does, and we will not be any clearer. >  > I definately do not think the worms are causing it, I really think all the worms are harmless, it is the toxicity that the worms are dealing with that are causing the problems >  > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7856095.stm >  > I have many more links regarding this, I am just going to have to dig them out. I will post what else I have within a day or so >  > Love joanne > > > To: fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 21:44 > Subject: Question: Joanne > > >  > I have been reading Bee’s website and find everything fascinating. However, I can find very little about parasites such as worms and amoeba, etc. I also read her Yahoo groups and at one time I did ask her about my specific situation, but she told me she was sorry but that she couldn’t help me. I do think she was wrong though as I’ve done enough research about it to know that it should work very well for me. > > So I have a question for her and was wondering if you would ask about it as I think this is something that needs to be discussed. As you know I belong to quite a few groups and lately on some of them we have been discussing various parasites causing various diseases. There is a Dr. Klapow who links a lungworm that he calls a Klapowi worm to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or CFS. There are other scientists that are saying that another worm causes Morgellon’s Disease. Also the University of Alabama says that they discovered that a certain protein is released during the reproductive process of the C. Elegans worm that is similar to the protein that is found in patients with ALS or Lou Gehrig’s disease. What does she think of this? Is it possible that the pleomorphic process happens in part because of the body’s reaction to what happens between single-celled and multi-celled parasites such as worms, flukes, amoeba, etc., and the body? > > When I was reading about the C. Elegans worm, I saw that they were mentioning Parkinson’s Disease also. Of course there were a lot of technical terms that I didn’t understand, but they did say that there needs to be a lot more study on this. And I know you’ve done a lot of research also. What do you think about this? > > Judy H > To Health Through Knowledge > Started taking Low Dose Naltrexone on January 20, 2009 for > Fibromyalgia, Restless Legs Syndrome, Hashimotos Thyroid and PCOS > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDNforFibro/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 My problem with all this is that worms use eggs to reproduce. I can see that it’s possible that bacteria, virus and fungi are all related and may even be pleomorphic, but multi-celled animals almost always reproduce by having eggs fertilized. And yes, I agree that they are all used basically in the process of removing decaying matter. However, if they too are pleomorphic, then mammals would be considered pleomorphic also since we use eggs and we know that cats don’t morph into dogs and monkeys don’t morph into humans. I also don’t believe in evolution, however, I do believe that God created the ability in beings to change. This is shown the most in dogs as in all the various breeds, and yet they are all still dogs. I may be wrong, but I feel it is an outside source that starts the problem and then the bacteria, virus and fungus come in and do their job. That’s why I thought it was interesting in the article I read about the worm, that while the worm itself seems to be harmless in humans, the protein that it produces when it breeds is almost the same as the protein that is found in ALS patients. I think Bee is right in many things, but I don’t think her ideas are carried out far enough. To me, something is missing in the total process. For example in my opinion the plaque that they find in some people’s brains is a reaction to something. Whether it is something within the cells that change or whether it is from some outside source such as a worm or some other foreign matter, it doesn’t really make a big difference. The problem is that this then starts the body’s natural reaction to containing or eliminating the problem. In a healthy body this is done without harming the body, but if something goes wrong in the process then problems arise. This then is the basis of disease. Infection, plaque and cancer are the outcome of this process. I also don’t agree with her on some other things, like the smoking, but I also know that humans are humans and we believe what we want to believe. All we can do is observe things, read about or listen to other people’s observations and then come to our own conclusions. No, you don’t need to ask Bee about it as I think I’ve read enough of her website as well as her answers on her groups to know what she would say. I do find this subject very interesting though and will continue to do more research about it myself. Judy H To Health Through Knowledge Started taking Low Dose Naltrexone on January 20, 2009 for Fibromyalgia, Restless Legs Syndrome, Hashimotos Thyroid and PCOS http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDNforFibro/ From: Joanne Ford Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:49 PM To: fibromyalgiacured Subject: Re: Question: Judy Judy Yes I do think Bee is saying that worms and parasites are pathogens, created by the pleomorphic process, and that there main role is to break up food and other substances and also part digesting the nutrtion from these so that the body can absorb these better and also breaking down the toxicity so that the body can more easily dispose of it My own vew is I am not certain if worms and parasites are coming about because of the pleomorphic process or another process You see with this idea that bechamp as I, like other people tend to try to make it fit into what I ahve been taught. But when we think about this logically really there is no reason why the worms and parasites should not appear out of this process, their function is the same as all other pathogens they are breaking dowm food and other substances and are providing us with a better version of the nutrient, a more digestable form of it, and they are enabling the body to dispose of the toxicity in our gut. And further more there is even evidence that when the worms are not present, people become extremely ill, and when they are present not only is that population healthy, they are also much more content, since it seems the worms, keep all the pathogen community working correctly and the immune system generally working correctly So Bees idea that they are comoing out of the pleomrphic process is probably the most correct and this Idea I have that they might be evolving by themselves does seem to be off the mark and pandering more towards the germ theory which I totally disagree with I am with bee on the idea that we do not catch worms or parsites, that they are already there and that we need them and that we should not kill them. I totally agree with her on that, my difficulty is accepting that a pathogen evolved into one of these things, it is like my mind wants them to be something different But I think what we need to do is ask how do these things come about, do the parents of them have sex, does the mother carry them, do they develop inside eggs. Or do these things develop in the body from a tiny egg, a somitid, I think bechamp calls them and does the 'feteus' if we can call it that simply grow on its own, not carried not nursed, nothing like that just egg to fully formed, and what ever processes inbetween Regarding the plaque in the brains of folk with ALS Parkinsons Alzheimers etc. I think we need to think about how plaque appears in the body or indeed anywhere generally. If you think about your own teeth and about having them cleaned by an hygenist. When you go the hygenist removes all the plaque and the bacteria and you leave her office with perfectly white teeth. You gwet home and there is a mad scientist sat in your living room who says, I have some bacteria here can I put this on your teeth. You are so shocked you say yes and he does it and you wait, just like he waits for the plaque to appear. Of course it does not appear because bacteria does not create plaque. A few hours later you say to the mad scientist, look I am hingry I need a biscuit, and you go in the kitchen and you eat a biscuit, and later a few more and the next day you look in your mouth and there you find your first traces of plaque. you decide not to clean your teeth and just leave it there. For the next few days you eat lots of biscuits and lots more plaque appears. And of course, even though you cannot see it, the pathogens also appear and they start breaking up the plaque for you Notice here that it makes no sense to say oh the scientist put bacteria in my mouth and then plaque appeared, this cannot happen. You need a toxin, which in this case is the biscuits, to create the plaque and then once you have the plaque the pathogens have something to feed on. Now a brain full of plaque will like our mouths also have a lot of pathogens in it munching away on it, but a brain that has no plaque will not have any pathogens there that normally deal with the plaque because there will be no plaque there for them to deal with so no need at all to have the pathogens there either, and this includes worms. What would the worms be doing in a brain that was not all messed up with toxicity, and what on earth would worms be doing creating plaque. if worms could invade us and then get in our brains and start spewing plaque all over the place we as a race would have died out years ago because we would not have been able to see these creatures and they would have clogged out our brains with so much of this plaque we would not have been able to survive it but instead what we find is that when people eat the modern diet and live in the western culture. then their brains get full of plaque and then their brains get full of pathogens, including in some cases worms and parasite and also these same folk with all the plaque etc these folk start up with healing reactions and have other signs of illness. all this is the body trying to remove the toxicity that is leading to the plaque build up, ie stuff from our diet and toxins in general. And we go to the doctor, and he finds the pathogens, or worms or what ever, or at least he says he has. he then gives the patient, anti fungals, antibiotics anit-parasite meds or what ever. the pateient goes home tries the meds, finds he/she feels much much better, until of course the plaque, which is still there spreads and before you know it the patient has a 'plaquey' brain but no pathogens to clear it listen, Judy do not take it to heart what bee said about not being able to help you. The truth is Bee wants to help anybody and everybody that she can, but when folk have had surgery or stents put in, or anything like this and the operations that have taken plce not only mean the person will have enormous problems with the diet but that because of these operations it could make the diet dangerous, she simply does not take certain things on incase something goes wrong and it looks like it is the diet when in fact it is the surgery. But not just that either. I read her posts once where she was talking to somebody that had had a stent and she told them, as long as the stent is there your body will be trying to reject that, and so my diet will not be of use. but since that time I have read her posts and seen her say, to another problem with much the same thing that she could not help, but that person insisted she could help them, and in the end she backed down and said, OK, you tell me how you get on It is not that Bee is being nasty or anything like that she is genuinely thinking of the person and indeed the unfairness of misleading folk by saying she can help when she cannot be certain all will be OK. Bee would rather be honest. But if you know you can do this and, which I know you are, you are willing to take responsibility for yourself Bee will not be against you, I can assure you she will not be Listen, Bee does not agree with many many many things I say. For one thing she does not agree that people like myself need to do this diet ketogenically, she thinks that is psychological. She also does not agree with me that addiction needs to be dealt with as a separate issue. she claims addiction is malnutrition, and indeed it may be, but also, most definately in my case it is to do with unresolved stuff. bee says use dianetics, and i am not against that, just cant afford it nor understand it I beleive that addiction needs to be dealt with as a spiritual matter and in much the same manner as the way the 12 step groups work. But bee says these groups keep us addicted Plus she thinks smoking is pretty harmless, I really do not think so!!!! Anyway, I am still happy with what bee has told me and although she does not agree with the long term ketosis thing, I still say her diet is the only diet that is of any use to a person wanting to eat right and do a diet ketogenically. and also as much as she thinks dianetics is the only answer to psychological trauma, and I think rather differently about this, I do not mind at all that she thinks these things because she is still a good person and she is indeed making a difference to my life and many people. And sometimes you know when you look at all the earache she gets, I simply do not know how she does it If you do still want me to ask Bee about the plaque in the brain I will do so, but I really think she is just going to print the main causes of disease list, that is what she usually does, and we will not be any clearer. I definately do not think the worms are causing it, I really think all the worms are harmless, it is the toxicity that the worms are dealing with that are causing the problems http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7856095.stm I have many more links regarding this, I am just going to have to dig them out. I will post what else I have within a day or so Love joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I’m not Joanne, but I do agree with you. I am considered morbidly obese and have tried nearly every diet including being a raw vegan for a year. I constantly watch what I eat and still rarely lose any weight. I’ve even had gastric Bypass surgery and lost very little. However, since I gradually started eating Bee’s diet about 5-6 months ago, I’ve gained another 20+ lbs. I can’t really see that much progress either, but I will probably continue with it because I’ve dieted enough to realize that it is a pretty healthy way of eating. And I had already given up grains anyway because of being gluten intolerant. Definitely, we each need to search out the information that is right for us whether it is physical or mental. We are all different and what is right for one person may not be right for another. I think this diet can be that way too. The only diet that is wrong for everyone is one where all people eat is processed, fast foods. I also agree with you about Dianetics. I worked for about 4 years for a man who was a Scientologist. I know way too much about it to ever trust it or anyone who believes in it. And I am usually a very tolerant person when it comes to religion. Judy H To Health Through Knowledge Started taking Low Dose Naltrexone on January 20, 2009 for Fibromyalgia, Restless Legs Syndrome, Hashimotos Thyroid and PCOS http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDNforFibro/ From: pazalways Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:50 AM To: fibromyalgiacured Subject: Re: Question: Judy Hi Joanne, I read your reply and I just can say that Bee's diet is very difficult and people heal and react in different ways. We also need to consider the length of the disease and the environment we lived in, our emotional, psychological and economic situation. I have been doing the diet for 8 months and I don't see a lot of progress. I do look better and most people tell me I look younger but other than that I still have a lot of fatigue and little energy. I read Dianetics and I don't like it. Dianetics is the basis for the Church of Scientology, which is a sect. I am a free thinker and do not like to blindly follow any group of people telling me that theirs is the only solution for everything. Some of the writing is interesting but it is mainly pseudo science, but if people want to follow it and it helps them, they should be allowed to do so. I agree with you that our emotional state of mind is very complex and we need different types of help. I have done therapies but have always come to the conclusion that they can help me so much, and then I just stop it. They tend to tell you that you need longer, but first it is too expensive and second I realize they are going in circles, so I do what I think is best for me, just stop and use other techniques. I think the best in life is to be your own person, consider the history of things, other experiences and ultimately your experience. It is very important to be a critical thinker (in a rational and healthy sense) and be able to find what is best for you. Saludos, Paz > > Judy >  > Yes I do think Bee is saying that worms and parasites are pathogens, created by the pleomorphic process, and that there main role is to break up food and other substances and also part digesting the nutrtion from these so that the body can absorb these better and also breaking down the toxicity so that the body can more easily dispose of it >  > My own vew is I am not certain if worms and parasites are coming about because of the pleomorphic process or another process >  > You see with this idea that bechamp as I, like other people tend to try to make it fit into what I ahve been taught. But when we think about this logically really there is no reason why the worms and parasites should not appear out of this process, their function is the same as all other pathogens they are breaking dowm food and other substances and are providing us with a better version of the nutrient, a more digestable form of it, and they are enabling the body to dispose of the toxicity in our gut. And further more there is even evidence that when the worms are not present, people become extremely ill, and when they are present not only is that population healthy, they are also much more content, since it seems the worms, keep all the pathogen community working correctly and the immune system generally working correctly >  > So Bees idea that they are comoing out of the pleomrphic process is probably the most correct and this Idea I have that they might be evolving by themselves does seem to be off the mark and pandering more towards the germ theory which I totally disagree with >  > I am with bee on the idea that we do not catch worms or parsites, that they are already there and that we need them and that we should not kill them. I totally agree with her on that, my difficulty is accepting that a pathogen evolved into one of these things, it is like my mind wants them to be something different >  > But I think what we need to do is ask how do these things come about, do the parents of them have sex, does the mother carry them, do they develop inside eggs. Or do these things develop in the body from a tiny egg, a somitid, I think bechamp calls them and does the 'feteus' if we can call it that simply grow on its own, not carried not nursed, nothing like that just egg to fully formed, and what ever processes inbetween >  > Regarding the plaque in the brains of folk with ALS Parkinsons Alzheimers etc. I think we need to think about how plaque appears in the body or indeed anywhere generally. If you think about your own teeth and about having them cleaned by an hygenist. When you go the hygenist removes all the plaque and the bacteria and you leave her office with perfectly white teeth. You gwet home and there is a mad scientist sat in your living room who says, I have some bacteria here can I put this on your teeth. You are so shocked you say yes and he does it and you wait, just like he waits for the plaque to appear. Of course it does not appear because bacteria does not create plaque. A few hours later you say to the mad scientist, look I am hingry I need a biscuit, and you go in the kitchen and you eat a biscuit, and later a few more and the next day you look in your mouth and there you find your first traces of plaque. you decide not to clean your teeth and just leave > it there. For the next few days you eat lots of biscuits and lots more plaque appears. And of course, even though you cannot see it, the pathogens also appear and they start breaking up the plaque for you >  > Notice here that it makes no sense to say oh the scientist put bacteria in my mouth and then plaque appeared, this cannot happen. You need a toxin, which in this case is the biscuits, to create the plaque and then once you have the plaque the pathogens have something to feed on. >  > Now a brain full of plaque will like our mouths also have a lot of pathogens in it munching away on it, but a brain that has no plaque will not have any pathogens there that normally deal with the plaque because there will be no plaque there for them to deal with so no need at all to have the pathogens there either, and this includes worms. What would the worms be doing in a brain that was not all messed up with toxicity, and what on earth would worms be doing creating plaque. if worms could invade us and then get in our brains and start spewing plaque all over the place we as a race would have died out years ago because we would not have been able to see these creatures and they would have clogged out our brains with so much of this plaque we would not have been able to survive it >  > but instead what we find is that when people eat the modern diet and live in the western culture. then their brains get full of plaque and then their brains get full of pathogens, including in some cases worms and parasite and also these same folk with all the plaque etc these folk start up with healing reactions and have other signs of illness. all this is the body trying to remove the toxicity that is leading to the plaque build up, ie stuff from our diet and toxins in general. And we go to the doctor, and he finds the pathogens, or worms or what ever, or at least he says he has. he then gives the patient, anti fungals, antibiotics anit-parasite meds or what ever. the pateient goes home tries the meds, finds he/she feels much much better, until of course the plaque, which is still there spreads and before you know it the patient has a 'plaquey' brain but no pathogens to clear it >  > listen, Judy do not take it to heart what bee said about not being able to help you. The truth is Bee wants to help anybody and everybody that she can, but when folk have had surgery or stents put in, or anything like this and the operations that have taken plce not only mean the person will have enormous problems with the diet but that because of these operations it could make the diet dangerous, she simply does not take certain things on incase something goes wrong and it looks like it is the diet when in fact it is the surgery. But not just that either. I read her posts once where she was talking to somebody that had had a stent and she told them, as long as the stent is there your body will be trying to reject that, and so my diet will not be of use. but since that time I have read her posts and seen her say, to another problem with much the same thing that she could not help, but that person insisted she could help them, and in the end she > backed down and said, OK, you tell me how you get on >  > It is not that Bee is being nasty or anything like that she is genuinely thinking of the person and indeed the unfairness of misleading folk by saying she can help when she cannot be certain all will be OK. Bee would rather be honest. But if you know you can do this and, which I know you are, you are willing to take responsibility for yourself Bee will not be against you, I can assure you she will not be >  > Listen, Bee does not agree with many many many things I say. For one thing she does not agree that people like myself need to do this diet ketogenically, she thinks that is psychological. She also does not agree with me that addiction needs to be dealt with as a separate issue. she claims addiction is malnutrition, and indeed it may be, but also, most definately in my case it is to do with unresolved stuff. bee says use dianetics, and i am not against that, just cant afford it nor understand it >  > I beleive that addiction needs to be dealt with as a spiritual matter and in much the same manner as the way the 12 step groups work. But bee says these groups keep us addicted >  > Plus she thinks smoking is pretty harmless, I really do not think so!!!! >  > Anyway, I am still happy with what bee has told me and although she does not agree with the long term ketosis thing, I still say her diet is the only diet that is of any use to a person wanting to eat right and do a diet ketogenically. and also as much as she thinks dianetics is the only answer to psychological trauma, and I think rather differently about this, I do not mind at all that she thinks these things because she is still a good person and she is indeed making a difference to my life and many people. >  > And sometimes you know when you look at all the earache she gets, I simply do not know how she does it >  > If you do still want me to ask Bee about the plaque in the brain I will do so, but I really think she is just going to print the main causes of disease list, that is what she usually does, and we will not be any clearer. >  > I definately do not think the worms are causing it, I really think all the worms are harmless, it is the toxicity that the worms are dealing with that are causing the problems >  > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7856095.stm >  > I have many more links regarding this, I am just going to have to dig them out. I will post what else I have within a day or so >  > Love joanne > > > To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 21:44 > Subject: Question: Joanne > > >  > I have been reading Bee’s website and find everything fascinating. However, I can find very little about parasites such as worms and amoeba, etc. I also read her Yahoo groups and at one time I did ask her about my specific situation, but she told me she was sorry but that she couldn’t help me. I do think she was wrong though as I’ve done enough research about it to know that it should work very well for me. > > So I have a question for her and was wondering if you would ask about it as I think this is something that needs to be discussed. As you know I belong to quite a few groups and lately on some of them we have been discussing various parasites causing various diseases. There is a Dr. Klapow who links a lungworm that he calls a Klapowi worm to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or CFS. There are other scientists that are saying that another worm causes Morgellon’s Disease. Also the University of Alabama says that they discovered that a certain protein is released during the reproductive process of the C. Elegans worm that is similar to the protein that is found in patients with ALS or Lou Gehrig’s disease. What does she think of this? Is it possible that the pleomorphic process happens in part because of the body’s reaction to what happens between single-celled and multi-celled parasites such as worms, flukes, amoeba, etc., and the body? > > When I was reading about the C. Elegans worm, I saw that they were mentioning Parkinson’s Disease also. Of course there were a lot of technical terms that I didn’t understand, but they did say that there needs to be a lot more study on this. And I know you’ve done a lot of research also. What do you think about this? > > Judy H > To Health Through Knowledge > Started taking Low Dose Naltrexone on January 20, 2009 for > Fibromyalgia, Restless Legs Syndrome, Hashimotos Thyroid and PCOS > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/LDNforFibro/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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