Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 , Your post illustrates very clearly why so many of those of us who chose not to have immediate conventional treatment following diagnosis objected to the term Watchful Waiting. For most it did NOT mean just sitting back and holding thumbs that we wouldn’t land up with an untreatable staged disease. They used whatever means were available to monitor any progress and many at the same time enhanced their immune system by tackling the main issues of life style that might distract the immune system doing what it was set up to do – to deal with aberrant cells. I always felt that Watchful Waiting summoned up a picture of the bait for a leopard hunt – the usual method being to tether a goat in a clearing and wait for the leopard to pounce. A very uncomfortable position for the goat!! We tried to get a different phrase used – Dr Strum for example favored Objectified Observation, which was not a lot better, but we were prêt pleased when Active Surveillance took hold and became the ‘industry standard’ phrase. It is an empowering phrase and turns the table on the leopard which is now being observed on a regular basis and which will be attacked if and when required. Essentially there is no difference in what is being done. It just feels better to be an Active Surveiller than a Watchful Waiter – that guy in the corener of the restaurant whose eye you can never catch!! All the best Terry Herbert I have no medical qualifications but I was diagnosed in ‘96: and have learned a bit since then. My sites are at www.yananow.net and www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za Dr “Snuffy” Myers : " As a physician, I am painfully aware that most of the decisions we make with regard to prostate cancer are made with inadequate data " From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Metcalf Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 10:02 AM To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Re: Active Surveillance Terry I suppose whichever way you look at it, AS is a thousand times better than WW. Certainly from our UK point of view. WW seemed to mean wait till you you hurt somewhere and we show it is bone mets or whatever manifestation secondaries turn up as. True in many men this didn't happen before the apparition with the scythe carried them away with some different cause. The newer AS in its true sense tries to monitor changes in PSA etc. In some cases indication comes that there is agressive movement that indicates either radical action or maintainance of the close watch. In other cases indications are that there is slow or imperceptable change, thus the periods between tests can be lengthened. Regarding e-forums such as ours, membership tends to be mainly those who still have issues. Only a few of those who have radical treatment and minimal side effects stay with groups, I'm grateful for those that do. Also I can imagine that if AS is going well, there are more important things in life than reading about other people's troubles, again I am grateful for those who stay with us. Best wishes to you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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