Fw: RE: FW: Finasteride (Proscar) and dutasteride (Avodart) - and high grade prostate cancer

[Guest guest]

I think that the debates do serve a purpose as they are expressions of an exchange of ideas. We are all adults and all gentlemen here and so long as we continue to be thatwe can benefit from one anther's opinions. I don't think that the object amongst ourselves need be that one is right and another wrong. Only that we express what we think and what we know in that such expression may be of benefit to another who is struggling with a decision or a problem where such expressions of opinion may provide a backdrop to their own decision making process. I have learned something from everyone here and I am very much appreciative of that fact.

BOB

Subject: RE: FW: Finasteride (Proscar) and dutasteride (Avodart) - and high grade prostate cancerTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 5:41 PM

It seems unlikely that these long and inconclusive debates will ever end, yet it has always seemed to me that there is such an obvious explanation for all the anomalies in the results.

<SNIP> “We know that hormones affect the appearance of prostate cancer cells,†Ford said. “So we can speculate on whether these are truly high-grade tumors or just a change in the way they look under the microscope. But long-term follow-up is the only thing that’s going to answer the question.â€<SNIP>

Gleason (he of the Gleason Scoring system) has said that the classifications in the Gleason System cannot be used for the material recovered from prostate glands in this study. So any arguments based on the Gleason Grades is simply a waste of time in my opinion.

All the best

Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening

Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong

Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html

[Guest guest]

I think that the debates do serve a purpose as they are expressions of an exchange of ideas. We are all adults and all gentlemen here and so long as we continue to be thatwe can benefit from one anther's opinions. I don't think that the object amongst ourselves need be that one is right and another wrong. Only that we express what we think and what we know in that such expression may be of benefit to another who is struggling with a decision or a problem where such expressions of opinion may provide a backdrop to their own decision making process. I have learned something from everyone here and I am very much appreciative of that fact.

BOB

Subject: RE: FW: Finasteride (Proscar) and dutasteride (Avodart) - and high grade prostate cancerTo: ProstateCancerSupport Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 5:41 PM

It seems unlikely that these long and inconclusive debates will ever end, yet it has always seemed to me that there is such an obvious explanation for all the anomalies in the results.

<SNIP> “We know that hormones affect the appearance of prostate cancer cells,†Ford said. “So we can speculate on whether these are truly high-grade tumors or just a change in the way they look under the microscope. But long-term follow-up is the only thing that’s going to answer the question.â€<SNIP>

Gleason (he of the Gleason Scoring system) has said that the classifications in the Gleason System cannot be used for the material recovered from prostate glands in this study. So any arguments based on the Gleason Grades is simply a waste of time in my opinion.

All the best

Prostate men need enlightening, not frightening

Terry Herbert - diagnosed in 1996 and still going strong

Read A Strange Place for unbiased information at http://www.yananow.org/StrangePlace/index.html