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I don't worry about it really. Like you I want to control it.

It seems like everything from breathing to talking on a phone causes some dangerous things to happen to people.

Hugs, Jacy

~Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses.

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From: oregonbeth

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30

Subject: Re: Red meat link to arthritis risk

Hi Jacy,I wouldn't worry too much about this or the various other studies that keep cropping up. It seems they are trying to find causes for RA - and since I already have the disease I no longer worry about what might have 'caused' it - I'm just trying to keep it under control!I'm far more interested in what the scientists come up with that might control or cure this disease ......Beth> Now this doesn't make me happy, though I am not a big red meat eater:> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Red meat link to arthritis risk > Eating a large amount of red meat has been linked to an increased risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis, scientists say. > > A study showed people who ate meat every day had double the risk of the disease compared to those who ate meat less, perhaps twice a week. > Researchers studied the dietary habits of 25,000 people. > > The University of Manchester study is published in the journal Arthritis and Rheumatism. > > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes inflammation of the membrane lining the joint, causing them to feel tender, stiff and swollen. Around 387,000 in the UK have the condition. > > Immune system trigger > > Study participants were aged between 45 and 75 were recruited via GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were asked to complete a seven-day food diary detailing exactly what they ate, and how large the portions were. > > Red meat in itself is not dangerous to health, but should be eaten in moderation as part of a balanced, healthy diet > > Arthritis Research Campaign spokeswoman > Researchers then looked at the incidence of RAs among the group until 2002. > > They found 88 people had been diagnosed with RA, or a related form of arthritis, and compared their diets with 176 healthy participants to see how their eating habits differed. > > The researchers suggest something in meat, perhaps collagen, could trigger an immune system response, which may also affect joints. > > Iron is another possible candidate. It has been shown to accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial membrane, causing tissue damage. > > Other studies have shown Mediterranean countries, where red meat tends to feature less in diets, have lower levels of RA. > > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been linked to reduced risk. > > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the Arthritis Research Campaign epidemiology unit at the University of Manchester, said: "Meat consumption may be linked to either additives or even infectious agents, but there is no evidence as to what might be important in relation to rheumatoid arthritis." > > He added: "This is the first time this link has been made." > > The people who developed RA were more likely to be former smokers and to eat less food containing vitamin C, but the researchers said the most significant difference between them was their meat-eating habits. > > The team also found that eating more protein overall, including other forms of meat and plant protein, also increased the risk of developing RA, while eating fat did not seem to raise the risk. > > Other risk factors > > A spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research Campaign, which funds the epidemiology unit, said: "This study provides further evidence that environmental factors can help to trigger rheumatoid arthritis. > > "In the light of this new evidence we would suggest that as part of a healthy lifestyle, people should cut down the amount of red meat (beef and lamb) they eat." > > She added: "We wouldn't want people to think that if they eat four burgers a week they are going to develop rheumatoid arthritis the following week because there are other risk factors that come into play - genetic susceptibility, smoking, low intake of Vitamin C. > > "Red meat in itself is not dangerous to health, but should be eaten in moderation as part of a balanced, healthy diet." > > Mo Atchia, a spokesman for Arthritis Care, added: "Diet has become an increasingly important factor in living with arthritis, and studies such as this one can only help our understanding of the way a person's diet can impact on their condition. > > "A low-fat, high-fibre diet, with plenty of fruit and vegetables for people with arthritis is vital to maintaining good general health." > > > > Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses. > > > jacymail@c...> IM: jacygal - ICQ: 96949087> www.geocities.com/mtn_rose > > > > > Want a signature like this?

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one time, while sitting in a doctor's office, I

read an issue of National Geographic. It said

the ancient Egyptians had arthritis. They could

tell by doing tests on mummys. so, this disease

goes way back! gentle hugs, Marcia

--- Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

> I don't worry about it really. Like you I want

> to control it.

> It seems like everything from breathing to

> talking on a phone causes some dangerous things

> to happen to people.

> Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's

> helpers are subordinate clauses.

>

>

> jacymail@...

> IM: jacygal - ICQ:

> 96949087

>

> www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

>

>

>

>

> Want a signature like this?

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: oregonbeth

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30

> Subject: Re: Red meat

> link to arthritis risk

>

>

>

> Hi Jacy,

>

> I wouldn't worry too much about this or the

> various other studies

> that keep cropping up. It seems they are

> trying to find causes for

> RA - and since I already have the disease I

> no longer worry about

> what might have 'caused' it - I'm just trying

> to keep it under

> control!

>

> I'm far more interested in what the

> scientists come up with that

> might control or cure this disease ......

>

> Beth

>

>

> > Now this doesn't make me happy, though I am

> not a big red meat

> eater:

> >

>

-------------------------------------------------------------------

> -------------

> >

> > Red meat link to arthritis risk

> > Eating a large amount of red meat has been

> linked to an increased

> risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,

> scientists say.

> >

> > A study showed people who ate meat every

> day had double the risk

> of the disease compared to those who ate meat

> less, perhaps twice a

> week.

> > Researchers studied the dietary habits of

> 25,000 people.

> >

> > The University of Manchester study is

> published in the journal

> Arthritis and Rheumatism.

> >

> > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes

> inflammation of the membrane

> lining the joint, causing them to feel

> tender, stiff and swollen.

> Around 387,000 in the UK have the condition.

> >

> > Immune system trigger

> >

> > Study participants were aged between 45 and

> 75 were recruited via

> GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were

> asked to complete a seven-

> day food diary detailing exactly what they

> ate, and how large the

> portions were.

> >

> > Red meat in itself is not dangerous

> to health, but should be

> eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> healthy diet

> >

> > Arthritis Research Campaign

> spokeswoman

> > Researchers then looked at the incidence of

> RAs among the group

> until 2002.

> >

> > They found 88 people had been diagnosed

> with RA, or a related form

> of arthritis, and compared their diets with

> 176 healthy participants

> to see how their eating habits differed.

> >

> > The researchers suggest something in meat,

> perhaps collagen, could

> trigger an immune system response, which may

> also affect joints.

> >

> > Iron is another possible candidate. It has

> been shown to

> accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial

> membrane, causing tissue

> damage.

> >

> > Other studies have shown Mediterranean

> countries, where red meat

> tends to feature less in diets, have lower

> levels of RA.

> >

> > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been

> linked to reduced risk.

> >

> > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the

> Arthritis Research Campaign

> epidemiology unit at the University of

> Manchester, said: " Meat

> consumption may be linked to either additives

> or even infectious

> agents, but there is no evidence as to what

> might be important in

> relation to rheumatoid arthritis. "

> >

> > He added: " This is the first time this link

> has been made. "

> >

> > The people who developed RA were more

> likely to be former smokers

> and to eat less food containing vitamin C,

> but the researchers said

> the most significant difference between them

> was their meat-eating

> habits.

> >

> > The team also found that eating more

> protein overall, including

> other forms of meat and plant protein, also

> increased the risk of

> developing RA, while eating fat did not seem

> to raise the risk.

> >

> > Other risk factors

> >

> > A spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research

> Campaign, which funds the

> epidemiology unit, said: " This study provides

> further evidence that

> environmental factors can help to trigger

> rheumatoid arthritis.

> >

> > " In the light of this new evidence we would

> suggest that as part

> of a healthy lifestyle, people should cut

> down the amount of red

> meat (beef and lamb) they eat. "

> >

> > She added: " We wouldn't want people to

> think that if they eat four

> burgers a week they are going to develop

> rheumatoid arthritis the

> following week because there are other risk

> factors that come into

> play - genetic susceptibility, smoking, low

> intake of Vitamin C.

> >

> > " Red meat in itself is not dangerous to

> health, but should be

> eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> healthy diet. "

> >

> > Mo Atchia, a spokesman for Arthritis Care,

> added: " Diet has become

> an increasingly important factor in living

> with arthritis, and

> studies such as this one can only help our

> understanding of the way

> a person's diet can impact on their

> condition.

> >

> > " A low-fat, high-fibre diet, with plenty of

> fruit and vegetables

> for people with arthritis is vital to

> maintaining good general

> health. "

> >

> >

>

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it can't be red meat!

i grew up vegetarian and never did get into eating meat.oregonbeth <broot@...> wrote:

Hi Jacy,I wouldn't worry too much about this or the various other studies that keep cropping up. It seems they are trying to find causes for RA - and since I already have the disease I no longer worry about what might have 'caused' it - I'm just trying to keep it under control!I'm far more interested in what the scientists come up with that might control or cure this disease ......Beth> Now this doesn't make me happy, though I am not a big red meat eater:> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Red meat link to arthritis risk > Eating a large amount of red meat has been linked to an increased risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,

scientists say. > > A study showed people who ate meat every day had double the risk of the disease compared to those who ate meat less, perhaps twice a week. > Researchers studied the dietary habits of 25,000 people. > > The University of Manchester study is published in the journal Arthritis and Rheumatism. > > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes inflammation of the membrane lining the joint, causing them to feel tender, stiff and swollen. Around 387,000 in the UK have the condition. > > Immune system trigger > > Study participants were aged between 45 and 75 were recruited via GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were asked to complete a seven-day food diary detailing exactly what they ate, and how large the portions were. > > Red meat in itself is not dangerous to health, but should be eaten in moderation as part of a

balanced, healthy diet > > Arthritis Research Campaign spokeswoman > Researchers then looked at the incidence of RAs among the group until 2002. > > They found 88 people had been diagnosed with RA, or a related form of arthritis, and compared their diets with 176 healthy participants to see how their eating habits differed. > > The researchers suggest something in meat, perhaps collagen, could trigger an immune system response, which may also affect joints. > > Iron is another possible candidate. It has been shown to accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial membrane, causing tissue damage. > > Other studies have shown Mediterranean countries, where red meat tends to feature less in diets, have lower levels of RA. > > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been linked to reduced risk. > > Professor Alan Silman,

Director of the Arthritis Research Campaign epidemiology unit at the University of Manchester, said: "Meat consumption may be linked to either additives or even infectious agents, but there is no evidence as to what might be important in relation to rheumatoid arthritis." > > He added: "This is the first time this link has been made." > > The people who developed RA were more likely to be former smokers and to eat less food containing vitamin C, but the researchers said the most significant difference between them was their meat-eating habits. > > The team also found that eating more protein overall, including other forms of meat and plant protein, also increased the risk of developing RA, while eating fat did not seem to raise the risk. > > Other risk factors > > A spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research Campaign, which funds the epidemiology unit, said: "This study provides

further evidence that environmental factors can help to trigger rheumatoid arthritis. > > "In the light of this new evidence we would suggest that as part of a healthy lifestyle, people should cut down the amount of red meat (beef and lamb) they eat." > > She added: "We wouldn't want people to think that if they eat four burgers a week they are going to develop rheumatoid arthritis the following week because there are other risk factors that come into play - genetic susceptibility, smoking, low intake of Vitamin C. > > "Red meat in itself is not dangerous to health, but should be eaten in moderation as part of a balanced, healthy diet." > > Mo Atchia, a spokesman for Arthritis Care, added: "Diet has become an increasingly important factor in living with arthritis, and studies such as this one can only help our understanding of the way a person's diet can impact on their condition.

> > "A low-fat, high-fibre diet, with plenty of fruit and vegetables for people with arthritis is vital to maintaining good general health." > > > > Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses. > > > jacymail@c...>

IM: jacygal - ICQ: 96949087> www.geocities.com/mtn_rose > > > > > Want a signature like this?__________________________________________________

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Marcia, we must have read the same National Geographic magazine.

There was a picture of a mummy that had had arthritis............Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: " Marcia Stoyle " <marciastoyle@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Red meat link to arthritis risk

one time, while sitting in a doctor's office, I

read an issue of National Geographic. It said

the ancient Egyptians had arthritis. They could

tell by doing tests on mummys. so, this disease

goes way back! gentle hugs, Marcia

--- Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

> I don't worry about it really. Like you I want

> to control it.

> It seems like everything from breathing to

> talking on a phone causes some dangerous things

> to happen to people.

> Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's

> helpers are subordinate clauses.

>

>

> jacymail@...

> IM: jacygal - ICQ:

> 96949087

>

> www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

>

>

>

>

> Want a signature like this?

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: oregonbeth

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30

> Subject: Re: Red meat

> link to arthritis risk

>

>

>

> Hi Jacy,

>

> I wouldn't worry too much about this or the

> various other studies

> that keep cropping up. It seems they are

> trying to find causes for

> RA - and since I already have the disease I

> no longer worry about

> what might have 'caused' it - I'm just trying

> to keep it under

> control!

>

> I'm far more interested in what the

> scientists come up with that

> might control or cure this disease ......

>

> Beth

>

>

> > Now this doesn't make me happy, though I am

> not a big red meat

> eater:

> >

>

-------------------------------------------------------------------

> -------------

> >

> > Red meat link to arthritis risk

> > Eating a large amount of red meat has been

> linked to an increased

> risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,

> scientists say.

> >

> > A study showed people who ate meat every

> day had double the risk

> of the disease compared to those who ate meat

> less, perhaps twice a

> week.

> > Researchers studied the dietary habits of

> 25,000 people.

> >

> > The University of Manchester study is

> published in the journal

> Arthritis and Rheumatism.

> >

> > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes

> inflammation of the membrane

> lining the joint, causing them to feel

> tender, stiff and swollen.

> Around 387,000 in the UK have the condition.

> >

> > Immune system trigger

> >

> > Study participants were aged between 45 and

> 75 were recruited via

> GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were

> asked to complete a seven-

> day food diary detailing exactly what they

> ate, and how large the

> portions were.

> >

> > Red meat in itself is not dangerous

> to health, but should be

> eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> healthy diet

> >

> > Arthritis Research Campaign

> spokeswoman

> > Researchers then looked at the incidence of

> RAs among the group

> until 2002.

> >

> > They found 88 people had been diagnosed

> with RA, or a related form

> of arthritis, and compared their diets with

> 176 healthy participants

> to see how their eating habits differed.

> >

> > The researchers suggest something in meat,

> perhaps collagen, could

> trigger an immune system response, which may

> also affect joints.

> >

> > Iron is another possible candidate. It has

> been shown to

> accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial

> membrane, causing tissue

> damage.

> >

> > Other studies have shown Mediterranean

> countries, where red meat

> tends to feature less in diets, have lower

> levels of RA.

> >

> > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been

> linked to reduced risk.

> >

> > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the

> Arthritis Research Campaign

> epidemiology unit at the University of

> Manchester, said: " Meat

> consumption may be linked to either additives

> or even infectious

> agents, but there is no evidence as to what

> might be important in

> relation to rheumatoid arthritis. "

> >

> > He added: " This is the first time this link

> has been made. "

> >

> > The people who developed RA were more

> likely to be former smokers

> and to eat less food containing vitamin C,

> but the researchers said

> the most significant difference between them

> was their meat-eating

> habits.

> >

> > The team also found that eating more

> protein overall, including

> other forms of meat and plant protein, also

> increased the risk of

> developing RA, while eating fat did not seem

> to raise the risk.

> >

> > Other risk factors

> >

> > A spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research

> Campaign, which funds the

> epidemiology unit, said: " This study provides

> further evidence that

> environmental factors can help to trigger

> rheumatoid arthritis.

> >

> > " In the light of this new evidence we would

> suggest that as part

> of a healthy lifestyle, people should cut

> down the amount of red

> meat (beef and lamb) they eat. "

> >

> > She added: " We wouldn't want people to

> think that if they eat four

> burgers a week they are going to develop

> rheumatoid arthritis the

> following week because there are other risk

> factors that come into

> play - genetic susceptibility, smoking, low

> intake of Vitamin C.

> >

> > " Red meat in itself is not dangerous to

> health, but should be

> eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> healthy diet. "

> >

> > Mo Atchia, a spokesman for Arthritis Care,

> added: " Diet has become

> an increasingly important factor in living

> with arthritis, and

> studies such as this one can only help our

> understanding of the way

> a person's diet can impact on their

> condition.

> >

> > " A low-fat, high-fibre diet, with plenty of

> fruit and vegetables

> for people with arthritis is vital to

> maintaining good general

> health. "

> >

> >

>

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hi, Joyce! yes, it was a mummy in the picture!

and Egypt is desert - hot and dry, if I am not

mistaken. so, I guess that blows the theory that

we all should move to New Mexico/Arizona. gentle

hugs, Marcia

--- Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote:

> Marcia, we must have read the same National

> Geographic magazine.

> There was a picture of a mummy that had had

> arthritis............Joyce

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Marcia Stoyle " <marciastoyle@...>

> <Rheumatoid Arthritis >

> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:56 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Red

> meat link to arthritis risk

>

>

>

> one time, while sitting in a doctor's office, I

> read an issue of National Geographic. It said

> the ancient Egyptians had arthritis. They

> could

> tell by doing tests on mummys. so, this

> disease

> goes way back! gentle hugs, Marcia

> --- Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

>

> > I don't worry about it really. Like you I

> want

> > to control it.

> > It seems like everything from breathing to

> > talking on a phone causes some dangerous

> things

> > to happen to people.

> > Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's

> > helpers are subordinate clauses.

> >

> >

> > jacymail@...

> > IM: jacygal - ICQ:

> > 96949087

> >

> > www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Want a signature like this?

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: oregonbeth

> > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30

> > Subject: Re: Red

> meat

> > link to arthritis risk

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Jacy,

> >

> > I wouldn't worry too much about this or the

> > various other studies

> > that keep cropping up. It seems they are

> > trying to find causes for

> > RA - and since I already have the disease I

> > no longer worry about

> > what might have 'caused' it - I'm just

> trying

> > to keep it under

> > control!

> >

> > I'm far more interested in what the

> > scientists come up with that

> > might control or cure this disease ......

> >

> > Beth

> >

> >

> > > Now this doesn't make me happy, though I

> am

> > not a big red meat

> > eater:

> > >

> >

>

-------------------------------------------------------------------

> > -------------

> > >

> > > Red meat link to arthritis risk

> > > Eating a large amount of red meat has

> been

> > linked to an increased

> > risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,

> > scientists say.

> > >

> > > A study showed people who ate meat every

> > day had double the risk

> > of the disease compared to those who ate

> meat

> > less, perhaps twice a

> > week.

> > > Researchers studied the dietary habits of

> > 25,000 people.

> > >

> > > The University of Manchester study is

> > published in the journal

> > Arthritis and Rheumatism.

> > >

> > > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes

> > inflammation of the membrane

> > lining the joint, causing them to feel

> > tender, stiff and swollen.

> > Around 387,000 in the UK have the

> condition.

> > >

> > > Immune system trigger

> > >

> > > Study participants were aged between 45

> and

> > 75 were recruited via

> > GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were

> > asked to complete a seven-

> > day food diary detailing exactly what they

> > ate, and how large the

> > portions were.

> > >

> > > Red meat in itself is not dangerous

> > to health, but should be

> > eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> > healthy diet

> > >

> > > Arthritis Research Campaign

> > spokeswoman

> > > Researchers then looked at the incidence

> of

> > RAs among the group

> > until 2002.

> > >

> > > They found 88 people had been diagnosed

> > with RA, or a related form

> > of arthritis, and compared their diets with

> > 176 healthy participants

> > to see how their eating habits differed.

> > >

> > > The researchers suggest something in

> meat,

> > perhaps collagen, could

> > trigger an immune system response, which

> may

> > also affect joints.

> > >

> > > Iron is another possible candidate. It

> has

> > been shown to

> > accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial

> > membrane, causing tissue

> > damage.

> > >

> > > Other studies have shown Mediterranean

> > countries, where red meat

> > tends to feature less in diets, have lower

> > levels of RA.

> > >

> > > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been

> > linked to reduced risk.

> > >

> > > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the

> > Arthritis Research Campaign

> > epidemiology unit at the University of

> > Manchester, said: " Meat

> > consumption may be linked to either

> additives

> > or even infectious

> > agents, but there is no evidence as to what

> > might be important in

> > relation to rheumatoid arthritis. "

> > >

> > > He added: " This is the first time this

> link

> > has been made. "

> > >

> > > The people who developed RA were more

> > likely to be former smokers

> > and to eat less food containing vitamin C,

> > but the researchers said

> > the most significant difference between

> them

> > was their meat-eating

> > habits.

> > >

> > > The team also found that eating more

> > protein overall, including

> > other forms of meat and plant protein, also

> > increased the risk of

> > developing RA, while eating fat did not

> seem

> > to raise the risk.

> > >

> > > Other risk factors

> > >

>

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Marcia,

It might help some people to move to Arizona or New Mexico for their

arthritis

but not RA as it is systemic so I have read. Back in the 1960's my Mother

and

Dad moved to Arizona. My Dad thought it would help his arthritis. I don't

know

what kind of arthritis he had but the move didn't help him a

bit...........Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: " Marcia Stoyle " <marciastoyle@...>

<Rheumatoid Arthritis >

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Red meat link to arthritis risk

hi, Joyce! yes, it was a mummy in the picture!

and Egypt is desert - hot and dry, if I am not

mistaken. so, I guess that blows the theory that

we all should move to New Mexico/Arizona. gentle

hugs, Marcia

--- Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote:

> Marcia, we must have read the same National

> Geographic magazine.

> There was a picture of a mummy that had had

> arthritis............Joyce

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Marcia Stoyle " <marciastoyle@...>

> <Rheumatoid Arthritis >

> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:56 AM

> Subject: Re: Re: Red

> meat link to arthritis risk

>

>

>

> one time, while sitting in a doctor's office, I

> read an issue of National Geographic. It said

> the ancient Egyptians had arthritis. They

> could

> tell by doing tests on mummys. so, this

> disease

> goes way back! gentle hugs, Marcia

> --- Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

>

> > I don't worry about it really. Like you I

> want

> > to control it.

> > It seems like everything from breathing to

> > talking on a phone causes some dangerous

> things

> > to happen to people.

> > Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's

> > helpers are subordinate clauses.

> >

> >

> > jacymail@...

> > IM: jacygal - ICQ:

> > 96949087

> >

> > www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Want a signature like this?

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: oregonbeth

> > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30

> > Subject: Re: Red

> meat

> > link to arthritis risk

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Jacy,

> >

> > I wouldn't worry too much about this or the

> > various other studies

> > that keep cropping up. It seems they are

> > trying to find causes for

> > RA - and since I already have the disease I

> > no longer worry about

> > what might have 'caused' it - I'm just

> trying

> > to keep it under

> > control!

> >

> > I'm far more interested in what the

> > scientists come up with that

> > might control or cure this disease ......

> >

> > Beth

> >

> >

> > > Now this doesn't make me happy, though I

> am

> > not a big red meat

> > eater:

> > >

> >

>

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> > -------------

> > >

> > > Red meat link to arthritis risk

> > > Eating a large amount of red meat has

> been

> > linked to an increased

> > risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,

> > scientists say.

> > >

> > > A study showed people who ate meat every

> > day had double the risk

> > of the disease compared to those who ate

> meat

> > less, perhaps twice a

> > week.

> > > Researchers studied the dietary habits of

> > 25,000 people.

> > >

> > > The University of Manchester study is

> > published in the journal

> > Arthritis and Rheumatism.

> > >

> > > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes

> > inflammation of the membrane

> > lining the joint, causing them to feel

> > tender, stiff and swollen.

> > Around 387,000 in the UK have the

> condition.

> > >

> > > Immune system trigger

> > >

> > > Study participants were aged between 45

> and

> > 75 were recruited via

> > GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were

> > asked to complete a seven-

> > day food diary detailing exactly what they

> > ate, and how large the

> > portions were.

> > >

> > > Red meat in itself is not dangerous

> > to health, but should be

> > eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,

> > healthy diet

> > >

> > > Arthritis Research Campaign

> > spokeswoman

> > > Researchers then looked at the incidence

> of

> > RAs among the group

> > until 2002.

> > >

> > > They found 88 people had been diagnosed

> > with RA, or a related form

> > of arthritis, and compared their diets with

> > 176 healthy participants

> > to see how their eating habits differed.

> > >

> > > The researchers suggest something in

> meat,

> > perhaps collagen, could

> > trigger an immune system response, which

> may

> > also affect joints.

> > >

> > > Iron is another possible candidate. It

> has

> > been shown to

> > accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial

> > membrane, causing tissue

> > damage.

> > >

> > > Other studies have shown Mediterranean

> > countries, where red meat

> > tends to feature less in diets, have lower

> > levels of RA.

> > >

> > > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been

> > linked to reduced risk.

> > >

> > > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the

> > Arthritis Research Campaign

> > epidemiology unit at the University of

> > Manchester, said: " Meat

> > consumption may be linked to either

> additives

> > or even infectious

> > agents, but there is no evidence as to what

> > might be important in

> > relation to rheumatoid arthritis. "

> > >

> > > He added: " This is the first time this

> link

> > has been made. "

> > >

> > > The people who developed RA were more

> > likely to be former smokers

> > and to eat less food containing vitamin C,

> > but the researchers said

> > the most significant difference between

> them

> > was their meat-eating

> > habits.

> > >

> > > The team also found that eating more

> > protein overall, including

> > other forms of meat and plant protein, also

> > increased the risk of

> > developing RA, while eating fat did not

> seem

> > to raise the risk.

> > >

> > > Other risk factors

> > >

>

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From: Marcia Stoyle

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:56

Subject: Re: Re: Red meat link to arthritis risk

one time, while sitting in a doctor's office, Iread an issue of National Geographic. It saidthe ancient Egyptians had arthritis. They couldtell by doing tests on mummys. so, this diseasegoes way back! gentle hugs, Marcia--- Jacy <jacymail@...> wrote:> I don't worry about it really. Like you I want> to control it.> It seems like everything from breathing to> talking on a phone causes some dangerous things> to happen to people.> Hugs, Jacy ~Santa's> helpers are subordinate clauses. > > > jacymail@...> IM: jacygal - ICQ:> 96949087> > www.geocities.com/mtn_rose > > > > > Want a signature like this? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: oregonbeth > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 20:30> Subject: Re: Red meat> link to arthritis risk> > > > Hi Jacy,> > I wouldn't worry too much about this or the> various other studies > that keep cropping up. It seems they are> trying to find causes for > RA - and since I already have the disease I> no longer worry about > what might have 'caused' it - I'm just trying> to keep it under > control!> > I'm far more interested in what the> scientists come up with that > might control or cure this disease ......> > Beth> > > > Now this doesn't make me happy, though I am> not a big red meat > eater:> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------> -------------> > > > Red meat link to arthritis risk > > Eating a large amount of red meat has been> linked to an increased > risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis,> scientists say. > > > > A study showed people who ate meat every> day had double the risk > of the disease compared to those who ate meat> less, perhaps twice a > week. > > Researchers studied the dietary habits of> 25,000 people. > > > > The University of Manchester study is> published in the journal > Arthritis and Rheumatism. > > > > Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) causes> inflammation of the membrane > lining the joint, causing them to feel> tender, stiff and swollen. > Around 387,000 in the UK have the condition. > > > > Immune system trigger > > > > Study participants were aged between 45 and> 75 were recruited via > GP lists between 1993 and 1997. All were> asked to complete a seven-> day food diary detailing exactly what they> ate, and how large the > portions were. > > > > Red meat in itself is not dangerous> to health, but should be > eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,> healthy diet > > > > Arthritis Research Campaign> spokeswoman > > Researchers then looked at the incidence of> RAs among the group > until 2002. > > > > They found 88 people had been diagnosed> with RA, or a related form > of arthritis, and compared their diets with> 176 healthy participants > to see how their eating habits differed. > > > > The researchers suggest something in meat,> perhaps collagen, could > trigger an immune system response, which may> also affect joints. > > > > Iron is another possible candidate. It has> been shown to > accumulate in the rheumatoid synovial> membrane, causing tissue > damage. > > > > Other studies have shown Mediterranean> countries, where red meat > tends to feature less in diets, have lower> levels of RA. > > > > Vegetarian and vegan diets have also been> linked to reduced risk. > > > > Professor Alan Silman, Director of the> Arthritis Research Campaign > epidemiology unit at the University of> Manchester, said: "Meat > consumption may be linked to either additives> or even infectious > agents, but there is no evidence as to what> might be important in > relation to rheumatoid arthritis." > > > > He added: "This is the first time this link> has been made." > > > > The people who developed RA were more> likely to be former smokers > and to eat less food containing vitamin C,> but the researchers said > the most significant difference between them> was their meat-eating > habits. > > > > The team also found that eating more> protein overall, including > other forms of meat and plant protein, also> increased the risk of > developing RA, while eating fat did not seem> to raise the risk. > > > > Other risk factors > > > > A spokeswoman for the Arthritis Research> Campaign, which funds the > epidemiology unit, said: "This study provides> further evidence that > environmental factors can help to trigger> rheumatoid arthritis. > > > > "In the light of this new evidence we would> suggest that as part > of a healthy lifestyle, people should cut> down the amount of red > meat (beef and lamb) they eat." > > > > She added: "We wouldn't want people to> think that if they eat four > burgers a week they are going to develop> rheumatoid arthritis the > following week because there are other risk> factors that come into > play - genetic susceptibility, smoking, low> intake of Vitamin C. > > > > "Red meat in itself is not dangerous to> health, but should be > eaten in moderation as part of a balanced,> healthy diet." > > > > Mo Atchia, a spokesman for Arthritis Care,> added: "Diet has become > an increasingly important factor in living> with arthritis, and > studies such as this one can only help our> understanding of the way > a person's diet can impact on their> condition. > > > > "A low-fat, high-fibre diet, with plenty of> fruit and vegetables > for people with arthritis is vital to> maintaining good general > health." > > > > > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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