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In a message dated 10/17/04 11:41:01 AM, outpost@... writes:

Are there 2 schools of thought in rheumatologist land? Those that do and those that don't? Curious...

Deborah

I think some doctors are afraid they will be sued.

Unfortunatly, steroids WORK but they have so many possible side effects.

It has to be a balance....which is worse, suffering and probable joint damage or being unable to function, or a whole less suffering due to steroids ?

Our Md does not prescribe steroids, but our Rheumy does....as a last resort, or small amounts with other meds...

Usually docs will give up to 2- 3 steroid shots a year (no more), possibly less.

For me, I cannot function without a small amount of steroids...

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Exercise really does help. I was off work all last year(I'm retired from teaching) and I went back this year. I'm an educational consultant now and I work with the 9th grade Eng. and Math teachers to reduce failures in their classes. Because I'm working with different teachers and their students, most of my day is spent walking. I do take the elevator when I have to go up to different floors, but I try to go down the stairs. I do a *lot* of walking -- it's a huge building and some of the classes are as far apart as they can be. I always feel much better(looser) on the days I teach than I do when I'm home here and not quite as active.

I have to force myself to get up and get in there some days, because I'm so sore and stiff from the night, but once I do, and keep moving, I feel much better. I'm not lifting or moving anything heavy; really, I'm not doing much more than walking and bending a lot(helping kids) and sitting down and getting up a million times a day, but that keeps me limber and virtually pain-free. I don't notice anything hurting until I come home here, take care of the dogs, and then sit down at the computer. If I stay here for an hour or more I'm so stiff when I get up that I can hardly walk.

I guess the solution is to never stop moving<g>.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:24 PM

Subject: work it out

Sounds good in theory -

Arthritis patients work it outZanesville Times Recorder ZANESVILLE -- Their joints creak much like the chairs they sit in to exercise,

but they persevere to bring freedom of movement in their lives.

Hugs, Jacy

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I know this is going to sound silly and it may not work for everyone but on days when going upstairs is difficult, I go up the stairs backwards. Somehow that is easier on my knees.

Just be very careful.

Hugs, Jacy

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:04

Subject: Re: work it out

Exercise really does help. I was off work all last year(I'm retired from teaching) and I went back this year. I'm an educational consultant now and I work with the 9th grade Eng. and Math teachers to reduce failures in their classes. Because I'm working with different teachers and their students, most of my day is spent walking. I do take the elevator when I have to go up to different floors, but I try to go down the stairs. I do a *lot* of walking -- it's a huge building and some of the classes are as far apart as they can be. I always feel much better(looser) on the days I teach than I do when I'm home here and not quite as active.

I have to force myself to get up and get in there some days, because I'm so sore and stiff from the night, but once I do, and keep moving, I feel much better. I'm not lifting or moving anything heavy; really, I'm not doing much more than walking and bending a lot(helping kids) and sitting down and getting up a million times a day, but that keeps me limber and virtually pain-free. I don't notice anything hurting until I come home here, take care of the dogs, and then sit down at the computer. If I stay here for an hour or more I'm so stiff when I get up that I can hardly walk.

I guess the solution is to never stop moving<g>.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:24 PM

Subject: work it out

Sounds good in theory -

Arthritis patients work it outZanesville Times Recorder ZANESVILLE -- Their joints creak much like the chairs they sit in to exercise,

but they persevere to bring freedom of movement in their lives.

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes: I've seen too many get elected.

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Lots of talk about prednisone...

When I first went in for symptoms, my family doctor would not prescribe steroids in order to alleviate symptoms, and when I saw the rheumy for the first time - after diagnosis I got 2 shots of some kind of corticosteroid to tide me over until the DMARDS started working, and after that, it was made clear that corticosteroids were not an option for treatment. Are there 2 schools of thought in rheumatologist land? Those that do and those that don't? Curious...

Deborah

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I'll try that at home here! Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: work it out

I know this is going to sound silly and it may not work for everyone but on days when going upstairs is difficult, I go up the stairs backwards. Somehow that is easier on my knees.

Just be very careful.

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes: I've seen too many get elected.

jacymail@...www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:04

Subject: Re: work it out

Exercise really does help. I was off work all last year(I'm retired from teaching) and I went back this year. I'm an educational consultant now and I work with the 9th grade Eng. and Math teachers to reduce failures in their classes. Because I'm working with different teachers and their students, most of my day is spent walking. I do take the elevator when I have to go up to different floors, but I try to go down the stairs. I do a *lot* of walking -- it's a huge building and some of the classes are as far apart as they can be. I always feel much better(looser) on the days I teach than I do when I'm home here and not quite as active.

I have to force myself to get up and get in there some days, because I'm so sore and stiff from the night, but once I do, and keep moving, I feel much better. I'm not lifting or moving anything heavy; really, I'm not doing much more than walking and bending a lot(helping kids) and sitting down and getting up a million times a day, but that keeps me limber and virtually pain-free. I don't notice anything hurting until I come home here, take care of the dogs, and then sit down at the computer. If I stay here for an hour or more I'm so stiff when I get up that I can hardly walk.

I guess the solution is to never stop moving<g>.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:24 PM

Subject: work it out

Sounds good in theory -

Arthritis patients work it outZanesville Times Recorder ZANESVILLE -- Their joints creak much like the chairs they sit in to exercise,

but they persevere to bring freedom of movement in their lives.

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes: I've seen too many get elected.

jacymail@...www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

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I don't think the corticosteroids are a treatment as in something to control the

disease but they can be a diagnostic aid to see if there is an inflammatory

process and they help to alleviate many symptoms even though they do not treat

what is causing the symptoms. They often act much faster than a true treatment

and allow us to function while we wait for the slower medicines to work and to

give us time to find the correct treatment. I know of no doctor that wants

patients to be on a corticosteroid long-term, but many allow it if it is

required for quality of life. Hope this makes sense. God bless.

>

> From: " dkj " <outpost@...>

> Date: 2004/10/17 Sun PM 06:20:13 GMT

> <Rheumatoid Arthritis >

> Subject: Re: work it out

>

> Lots of talk about prednisone...

> When I first went in for symptoms, my family doctor would not prescribe

steroids in order to alleviate symptoms, and when I saw the rheumy for the first

time - after diagnosis I got 2 shots of some kind of corticosteroid to tide me

over until the DMARDS started working, and after that, it was made clear that

corticosteroids were not an option for treatment. Are there 2 schools of thought

in rheumatologist land? Those that do and those that don't? Curious...

> Deborah

>

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Let me know if it helps you please.

Hugs, Jacy

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:40

Subject: Re: work it out

I'll try that at home here! Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 2:09 PM

Subject: Re: work it out

I know this is going to sound silly and it may not work for everyone but on days when going upstairs is difficult, I go up the stairs backwards. Somehow that is easier on my knees.

Just be very careful.

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes: I've seen too many get elected.

jacymail@...www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hasenstab

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:04

Subject: Re: work it out

Exercise really does help. I was off work all last year(I'm retired from teaching) and I went back this year. I'm an educational consultant now and I work with the 9th grade Eng. and Math teachers to reduce failures in their classes. Because I'm working with different teachers and their students, most of my day is spent walking. I do take the elevator when I have to go up to different floors, but I try to go down the stairs. I do a *lot* of walking -- it's a huge building and some of the classes are as far apart as they can be. I always feel much better(looser) on the days I teach than I do when I'm home here and not quite as active.

I have to force myself to get up and get in there some days, because I'm so sore and stiff from the night, but once I do, and keep moving, I feel much better. I'm not lifting or moving anything heavy; really, I'm not doing much more than walking and bending a lot(helping kids) and sitting down and getting up a million times a day, but that keeps me limber and virtually pain-free. I don't notice anything hurting until I come home here, take care of the dogs, and then sit down at the computer. If I stay here for an hour or more I'm so stiff when I get up that I can hardly walk.

I guess the solution is to never stop moving<g>.

----- Original Message ----- From: Jacy

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Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:24 PM

Subject: work it out

Sounds good in theory -

Arthritis patients work it outZanesville Times Recorder ZANESVILLE -- Their joints creak much like the chairs they sit in to exercise,

but they persevere to bring freedom of movement in their lives.

Hugs, Jacy

~I don't approve of political jokes: I've seen too many get elected.

jacymail@...www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

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