Re: Anita

[Guest guest]

Anita, you and me are similar. I feel like one of the oldest girls as for time having implnts in and the severity of the ruptures. Two extracapsular ruptures. Listen you're gonna make it, you will get better. Listen, I think the symthroid is magic. Because I've never felt better in just two days!!!! Get on with the thyroid check and consider hypothyroidism because its all the same symptoms as FM. My mind is clear, I've been cleaning, volunterring to walk dogs at the shelter, no naps, happy, hello! life returned. Keep writing me. Have you had you TSH tested? Remember its not all in the numbers. Maybe you can get the Armour, but get TSH tested first. Big Hug, We'll get you better. anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

MICHELLE, YES I HAVE ALL THE TYPICAL SYMPTOMS....FATIGUE, FIBRO, YOU NAME IT. MY WORRY IS THAT SINCE I GOT MY IMPLANTS ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO AND HAVE BEEN SICK FOR SO LONG THAT I MIGHT BE TOO FAR GONE TO BE HELPED. I AM SO SICK OF DOCTORS TELLING ME THAT IT'S ALL IN MY HEAD. I'M JUST TO TIRED TO FIGHT WITH THEM ANYMORE. I WISH THERE WAS A DOCTOR WHO JUST SPECIALIZED IN TREATING SILICONE ILLNESS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WASTE PRECIOUS TIME AND ENERGY TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM THAT WE ARE REALLY SICK. ENOUGH WHINING. I KNOW THERE ARE WOMEN WHO ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN ME! GOOD LUCK WITH THE SYNTHROID. I HOPE IT HELPS. ANITA

----- Original Message -----

From: michelle king

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:25 PM

Subject: Re: Patty, Anita wants to know where to get Armour thyroid

Anita, Patty knows where to get it from; a mexican companty for really cheap. Like I said tell me more about you and your son. How dreadful. Do you have problems that are like the fibromyalgia, breast implant-silicone poisioning, thyroid problems. I swear they're all the same problem. I'm hoping that my problems will be reduced by starting on the synthroid today. And I keep asking people is 50mcgs aobut a normal dose. that's what he started me on, but he said that better take all your symptoms away or we're done. See how these drs. treat us ! Hugs ya'al, anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

MICHELLE, YOU SAID WE CAN GET ARMOUR WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WHERE DO YOU GET IT? I WOULD HAVE TRIED IT BY NOW IF I HAD KNOWN THAT. THANKS , ANITA

----- Original Message -----

From: michelle king

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:36 AM

Subject: Re: Thyroid confusion

Hi, I just went to an endocrinologist and was prescribed synthroid for a TSH of 3.75. He dosen't think I have hypothyroid but is willing to treat me. He said if all your symptoms don't go away in three months then we're done. All my symptoms: constant fatigue, sluugishness, difficulty conscentrating and paying attention, forgetfulness, short term memory loss (peoples names), gained easy 65 lbs (thank God I lost 55), super cold, freezing feet that I'm insanely umcomfortable, constant low temperature, dry skin, depression, low blood pressure, aches and pains are also symptoms of Fibromyalgia. I am so hopeful that I will improve and much of my FM will go away. I'm not depressed anymore but have had serious trouble during worst period of the silicone poisioning and it is a real and unavoidable problem. When your whole world is coming down, you lack the discerning power to read life and stand up for yourself. But now I know

what happened. See I had symptoms and actually improved with the implants still in. they've only been out 5 months. I go for my 5th month check Monday. Fiona, I started gaining weight when my worst of symptoms were being experienced, my onset My onset was profoundly severe, everything went at once. I had implants for 12 years with no or little problems I thought but the signs were there I just missed them. Chronic sinusitus, asthma and unability to walk once, light duty work for 3 to 4 months. This is about 3 years before severe onset. But I gained weight like no bodies business. Of course the psychiatrists had me on every concoction. I had two silicone ruptures, extracapsular. Do I think the implants caused the hypothyrodism, indeed. Am I hypothyroid even though dr. has his arrogant opinion, most definately. He said Armour should be taken off the market. Hey, while were on this subject. What

is the normal dose Patty, of synthroid? He gave me 50mcg. Fiona I know its over whelming at first but trust me, I've only been around 6 months and that's not long, but in that amount of time I'm almost ready to go back to work. I probably won't for a 9 monhts to a year but I will return for my Master's in a few months. We do recovery. But first get out the implants. Do you have hypothyrodism? The drs. are testy on treating us but perhaps they know we can get Armour without a prescription they are more willing. TSH range is 0 to 5. Drs. think anything under 5 is normal, however, there is a new study that says it should be under 2. Patty says she feels best when she is under .5. It also goes on your symptoms. They just don't go by numbers. Patty do you think I will improve with the level of synthroid he gave me? Because he ws very ignorant with me. He said if all your symptoms aren't gone we're

done. I said but I'll always have FM. I think I should get a new one. I know I probably won't notice the difference for about 3 weeks. Take Care everyone.

~*Patty*~ <redeemed7@...> wrote:

Fiona,

I think you have to consider the fact that implants may be the cause of hypothyroidism, unless you had all these symptoms before you even got implants. For sure, hypothyroidism occurs in non-implanted people. But that fact does not negate the possibility, (and for me probability, as we have NO prior history of thyroid problems in my immediate or extended family) that implants are the catalyst that causes the disease in the first place.

There is always something that has triggers thyroid dysfunction. Thyroid imbalances are becoming epidemic in this country and around the world in industrialized nations, if it is not epidemic already. Environmental factors play a huge part in this. Implants can be associated with those environmenal factors since many of the substances used to make implants are chemically volatile and toxic.

In my own mind, when looking at the history of mankind, it would appear that the explosive growth in the use of toxic substances and the spiraling incidences of previously rare diseases are related. Cause and effect, and implants fall into that category.

Either way, if you had thyroid issues before you got implants, implants are definitely not going to help the situation, and can likely cause further downward spirals in health as you grow older. The potential misery of life at that point is something I guess I would rather not experience myself.

Only you can decide Fiona!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Fiona Parkinson

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:22 AM

Subject: Re: Thyroid confusion

Hi all,

what came first, the chicken or the egg ? I've been browsing Hypothyroidism sites and the symptoms are the same as for implants....I'm so scared that I make the wrong choice here...how could I know that it IS my implants causing the symptoms, and not a thyroid problem ? Or how would I know if perhaps my thryoid was damaged during intubation for the implant op and that has set this off ? Ughh, I'm so confused with all this info........

Fiona

[Guest guest]

MICHELLE, I JUST HAD BLOOD TESTS DONE AND MY TSH WAS 1.4. MY DOCTOR SAID IT WAS GOOD. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE DOCTORS FOR YEARS THAT I NEED THYROID BUT I ALWAYS FALL WITHIN THE NORMAL LIMITS. I AM USING THE COCONUT OIL HOPING THAT WILL HELP. IT SEEMS I AM ALWAYS COLD. PAINFULLY COLD. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WORKED FOR YOU SO FAST. THAT'S JUST WONDERFUL. GOOD LUCK, ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: michelle king Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Anita Anita, you and me are similar. I feel like one of the oldest girls as for time having implnts in and the severity of the ruptures. Two extracapsular ruptures. Listen you're gonna make it, you will get better. Listen, I think the symthroid is magic. Because I've never felt better in just two days!!!! Get on with the thyroid check and consider hypothyroidism because its all the same symptoms as FM. My mind is clear, I've been cleaning, volunterring to walk dogs at the shelter, no naps, happy, hello! life returned. Keep writing me. Have you had you TSH tested? Remember its not all in the numbers. Maybe you can get the Armour, but get TSH tested first. Big Hug, We'll get you better. anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: MICHELLE, YES I HAVE ALL THE TYPICAL SYMPTOMS....FATIGUE, FIBRO, YOU NAME IT. MY WORRY IS THAT SINCE I GOT MY IMPLANTS ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO AND HAVE BEEN SICK FOR SO LONG THAT I MIGHT BE TOO FAR GONE TO BE HELPED. I AM SO SICK OF DOCTORS TELLING ME THAT IT'S ALL IN MY HEAD. I'M JUST TO TIRED TO FIGHT WITH THEM ANYMORE. I WISH THERE WAS A DOCTOR WHO JUST SPECIALIZED IN TREATING SILICONE ILLNESS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WASTE PRECIOUS TIME AND ENERGY TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM THAT WE ARE REALLY SICK. ENOUGH WHINING. I KNOW THERE ARE WOMEN WHO ARE IN WORSE SHAPE THAN ME! GOOD LUCK WITH THE SYNTHROID. I HOPE IT HELPS. ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: michelle king Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Patty, Anita wants to know where to get Armour thyroid Anita, Patty knows where to get it from; a mexican companty for really cheap. Like I said tell me more about you and your son. How dreadful. Do you have problems that are like the fibromyalgia, breast implant-silicone poisioning, thyroid problems. I swear they're all the same problem. I'm hoping that my problems will be reduced by starting on the synthroid today And I keep asking people is 50mcgs aobut a normal dose. that's what he started me on, but he said that better take all your symptoms away or we're done. See how these drs. treat us ! Hugs ya'al, anita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote: MICHELLE, YOU SAID WE CAN GET ARMOUR WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WHERE DO YOU GET IT? I WOULD HAVE TRIED IT BY NOW IF I HAD KNOWN THAT. THANKS , ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: michelle king Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: Thyroid confusion Hi, I just went to an endocrinologist and was prescribed synthroid for a TSH of 3.75. He dosen't think I have hypothyroid but is willing to treat me. He said if all your symptoms don't go away in three months then we're done. All my symptoms: constant fatigue, sluugishness, difficulty conscentrating and paying attention, forgetfulness, short term memory loss (peoples names), gained easy 65 lbs (thank God I lost 55), super cold, freezing feet that I'm insanely umcomfortable, constant low temperature, dry skin, depression, low blood pressure, aches and pains are also symptoms of Fibromyalgia. I am so hopeful that I will improve and much of my FM will go away. I'm not depressed anymore but have had serious trouble during worst period of the silicone poisioning and it is a real and unavoidable problem. When your whole world is coming down, you lack the discerning power to read life and stand up for yourself. But now I know what happened. See I had symptoms and actually improved with the implants still in. they've only been out 5 months. I go for my 5th month check Monday. Fiona, I started gaining weight when my worst of symptoms were being experienced, my onset My onset was profoundly severe, everything went at once. I had implants for 12 years with no or little problems I thought but the signs were there I just missed them. Chronic sinusitus, asthma and unability to walk once, light duty work for 3 to 4 months. This is about 3 years before severe onset. But I gained weight like no bodies business. Of course the psychiatrists had me on every concoction. I had two silicone ruptures, extracapsular. Do I think the implants caused the hypothyrodism, indeed. Am I hypothyroid even though dr. has his arrogant opinion, most definately. He said Armour should be taken off the market. Hey, while were on this subject. What is the normal dose Patty, of synthroid? He gave me 50mcg. Fiona I know its over whelming at first but trust me, I've only been around 6 months and that's not long, but in that amount of time I'm almost ready to go back to work. I probably won't for a 9 monhts to a year but I will return for my Master's in a few months. We do recovery. But first get out the implants. Do you have hypothyrodism? The drs. are testy on treating us but perhaps they know we can get Armour without a prescription they are more willing. TSH range is 0 to 5. Drs. think anything under 5 is normal, however, there is a new study that says it should be under 2. Patty says she feels best when she is under .5. It also goes on your symptoms. They just don't go by numbers. Patty do you think I will improve with the level of synthroid he gave me? Because he ws very ignorant with me. He said if all your symptoms aren't gone we're done. I said but I'll always have FM I think I should get a new one. I know I probably won't notice the difference for about 3 weeks. Take Care everyone. ~*Patty*~ <redeemed7@...> wrote: Fiona, I think you have to consider the fact that implants may be the cause of hypothyroidism, unless you had all these symptoms before you even got implants. For sure, hypothyroidism occurs in non-implanted people. But that fact does not negate the possibility, (and for me probability, as we have NO prior history of thyroid problems in my immediate or extended family) that implants are the catalyst that causes the disease in the first place. There is always something that has triggers thyroid dysfunction. Thyroid imbalances are becoming epidemic in this country and around the world in industrialized nations, if it is not epidemic already. Environmental factors play a huge part in this. Implants can be associated with those environmenal factors since many of the substances used to make implants are chemically volatile and toxic. In my own mind, when looking at the history of mankind, it would appear that the explosive growth in the use of toxic substances and the spiraling incidences of previously rare diseases are related. Cause and effect, and implants fall into that category. Either way, if you had thyroid issues before you got implants, implants are definitely not going to help the situation, and can likely cause further downward spirals in health as you grow older. The potential misery of life at that point is something I guess I would rather not experience myself. Only you can decide Fiona! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiona Parkinson Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:22 AM Subject: Re: Thyroid confusion Hi all, what came first, the chicken or the egg ? I've been browsing Hypothyroidism sites and the symptoms are the same as for implants....I'm so scared that I make the wrong choice here...how could I know that it IS my implants causing the symptoms, and not a thyroid problem ? Or how would I know if perhaps my thryoid was damaged during intubation for the implant op and that has set this off ? Ughh, I'm so confused with all this info........ Fiona

[Guest guest]

Anita,

Juicing is definitely a body detoxifier, especially if you cut out all the other bad stuff and allow the nutrients to go to work in the body from juicing alone.

I think a detox for both you and your son would be a great idea. That is so very sad about your son....that really just grabs my heart when the kids are affected. I pray that he can find relief for his suffering soon. I do not know if the detoxing will help his condition, or if it is a genetic issue, but trying the detoxing is a great start.

I've put you in contact with some great people about the hyperbarics. I hope can help you....please let me know how that goes, and remember, if you can afford it, there is a hyperbaric chamber here in Vegas, actually several of them, so you may not have to travel. But isn't that far, and she is a great lady.

Dr. Mercola would also be great....I trust his ability to treat us, as he KNOWS implants are bad news. He will be compassionate, I am sure.

You are on the right track!

I have posted instructions for the coffee enema in the files section. I will post them again for you, and I hope you will find it very easy to use. I do them quite often, and find them to be very effective. Coffee enemas can be used by anyone who is ill, and at the age of 13, your son can use them safely. It is important to juice and get nutritional support with the use of coffee enemas, so make sure you are eating alot of fruits and vegetables, or juicing, okay?

I'll post those instructions in a separate email...watch for it!

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: anita kessler

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:04 PM

Subject: Re: Re: my pain meds. I quit taking them.!!! YES!!!.Patty Carri

I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS SO MUCH I AM SO CONFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSED! MY SON JUST CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND HE IS SOOOO TIRED! HE SEEMS TO HAVE SO MANY OF THE SAME SYMPTOMS AS I DO. I AM TRYING TO WORK UP A PLAN OF ACTION. I THOUGHT THAT SINCE MY SON IS IN SCHOOL NOW (HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME WITH BRAIN FOG) I WOULD FIRST TRY DETOXING FOR BOTH OF US. I WILL START A COLON CLEANSE TOMORROW MORNING. IF IT IS NOT TOO HARSH I WILL TRY IT FOR MY SON ALSO. I ALSO THOUGHT I WOULD START A JUICING DETOX FOR BOTH OF US. SOUNDS LIKE THAT DETOXES THE WHOLE BODY. IS THAT RIGHT? ACCORDING TO THE SPIT TEST WE BOTH HAVE CANDIDA BUT I THINK MAYBE I SHOULD ORDER THE TEST FOR HIM BEFORE I START TREATING HIM. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA? I THOUGHT THAT BY THE TIME WE DO ALL THAT SCHOOL WOULD BE OUT AND IF WE ARE NOT MAKING PROGRESS BY THEN WE WILL PERHAPS GO OUT OF TOWN FOR HYPERBARIC TREATMENT OR MAYBE TO SEE DR. MERCOLA. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK GIRLS? ANY SUGGESTIONS? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE COFFEE ENEMA? ARE THEY SAFE FOR CHILDREN? MY SON IS THIRTEEN AND WEIGHS ABOUT 160. HE'S NOT FAT THOUGH> DO I ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS? HUH? LOVE, ANITA

[Guest guest]

PATTY, THANKS FOR THE GREAT INFORMATION. YOU'RE THE BEST! LOVE, ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: ~*Patty*~ Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Anita Anita, Juicing is definitely a body detoxifier, especially if you cut out all the other bad stuff and allow the nutrients to go to work in the body from juicing alone. I think a detox for both you and your son would be a great idea That is so very sad about your son....that really just grabs my heart when the kids are affected. I pray that he can find relief for his suffering soon. I do not know if the detoxing will help his condition, or if it is a genetic issue, but trying the detoxing is a great start. I've put you in contact with some great people about the hyperbarics. I hope can help you....please let me know how that goes, and remember, if you can afford it, there is a hyperbaric chamber here in Vegas, actually several of them, so you may not have to travel. But isn't that far, and she is a great lady. Dr. Mercola would also be great....I trust his ability to treat us, as he KNOWS implants are bad news. He will be compassionate, I am sure. You are on the right track! I have posted instructions for the coffee enema in the files section. I will post them again for you, and I hope you will find it very easy to use. I do them quite often, and find them to be very effective. Coffee enemas can be used by anyone who is ill, and at the age of 13, your son can use them safely. It is important to juice and get nutritional support with the use of coffee enemas, so make sure you are eating alot of fruits and vegetables, or juicing, okay? I'll post those instructions in a separate email...watch for it! Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: anita kessler Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: my pain meds. I quit taking them.!!! YES!!!.Patty Carri I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS SO MUCH I AM SO CONFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSED! MY SON JUST CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL AND HE IS SOOOO TIRED! HE SEEMS TO HAVE SO MANY OF THE SAME SYMPTOMS AS I DO. I AM TRYING TO WORK UP A PLAN OF ACTION. I THOUGHT THAT SINCE MY SON IS IN SCHOOL NOW (HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME WITH BRAIN FOG) I WOULD FIRST TRY DETOXING FOR BOTH OF US. I WILL START A COLON CLEANSE TOMORROW MORNING. IF IT IS NOT TOO HARSH I WILL TRY IT FOR MY SON ALSO. I ALSO THOUGHT I WOULD START A JUICING DETOX FOR BOTH OF US. SOUNDS LIKE THAT DETOXES THE WHOLE BODY. IS THAT RIGHT? ACCORDING TO THE SPIT TEST WE BOTH HAVE CANDIDA BUT I THINK MAYBE I SHOULD ORDER THE TEST FOR HIM BEFORE I START TREATING HIM. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA? I THOUGHT THAT BY THE TIME WE DO ALL THAT SCHOOL WOULD BE OUT AND IF WE ARE NOT MAKING PROGRESS BY THEN WE WILL PERHAPS GO OUT OF TOWN FOR HYPERBARIC TREATMENT OR MAYBE TO SEE DR. MERCOLA. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK GIRLS? ANY SUGGESTIONS? DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE COFFEE ENEMA? ARE THEY SAFE FOR CHILDREN? MY SON IS THIRTEEN AND WEIGHS ABOUT 160. HE'S NOT FAT THOUGH> DO I ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS? HUH? LOVE, ANITA

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for the E-mail. Of course, I think he's the cutest little boy in the world, but all Mommy's say that??

He's getting old enough that he will comfort me if I cry, and laugh with me at something funny.

I hope that I don't have to depend on him too much, to help me as he's growing up. Love, Daryl

- ---- Original Message -----

From: anita kessler

SALINE SUPPORT

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:33 AM

Subject: Re: Halloween pict. of my husb. and baby Quinn

Daryl, What a great picture. Your son is absolutely adorable!

Halloween pict. of my husb. and baby Quinn

I hope that you are able to open this-I am still trying to send pictures in a normal size, so I hope that it's not a huge picture. It's nice to have a face to put with our names!

I remember on this day, I had a epidural put in my back from a pain Dr., and I was so tired. The pain came right back, but at least I got thru trick-or-treating! Love, Daryl 120-2005_IMG

[Guest guest]

-Daryl

Can you email me the picture of your son and husband at halloween?

I can't find out how to access your pic and would really like to see

the picture. Or is there still a way I can access it from this

site? How are you doing. Are you feeling any better any part of

your days yet? I sure hope you are feeling better at least some

parts of some of the days. Have you ordered the Maker's Diet by

Jordin Rubin? I think if you follow his diet recs it will really

help you change your health. I have added raw milk organic cheese

to my diet and it is really helping me to feel good! I also started

a therapy called B.E.S.T. It is awesome! This therapy is about how

our emotions affect our health and how we can dump these toxic

emotions and open our body back out into a healing mode. This is

followed by specific bodywork. My neck and shoulders are looser

than they have been in years!! I am getting alot of muscle spasms

as detox, but I think I am finally onto the way to help my body dump

its toxins. My therapist says that as long as my body is in

its " flight or fight " mode, it can't be in a healing mode. that is

why when I detox I haven't been able to eliminate the toxins and get

such bad herxes. It makes sense and I really see God guiding me

once again to a higher path of wellness!!! Praise God. I know you

are on your way to healing too. Jordin Rubin never gave up the

belief that God would heal him, and he was literally at death's door

before He actually did! He dedicates his book to God--awesome--and

his life to the mission that God has given him--to help others heal.

Hugs

kathy

-- In , " Daryl " <daryljean@c...>

wrote:

> Thank you so much for the E-mail. Of course, I think he's the

cutest little boy in the world, but all Mommy's say that??

> He's getting old enough that he will comfort me if I cry, and

laugh with me at something funny.

>

> I hope that I don't have to depend on him too much, to help me as

he's growing up. Love, Daryl

> - ---- Original Message -----

> From: anita kessler

> SALINE SUPPORT

> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:33 AM

> Subject: Re: Halloween pict. of my husb. and

baby Quinn

>

>

> Daryl, What a great picture. Your son is absolutely adorable!

>

> Halloween pict. of my husb. and baby

Quinn

>

> I hope that you are able to open this-I am still trying to

send pictures in a normal size, so I hope that it's not a huge

picture. It's nice to have a face to put with our names!

>

> I remember on this day, I had a epidural put in my back from a

pain Dr., and I was so tired. The pain came right back, but at least

I got thru trick-or-treating! Love, Daryl

>

> 120-2005_IMG

>

>

[Guest guest]

AnitaHi! Tell me more. Are you on estrogen too?

Hugs,

LManita kessler <AnitaK001@...> wrote:

Hi Marie, I just wanted to tell you the progesterone cream did wonders for me. I was two days away from a hysterectomy and I started using the cream and we were able to cancel the surgery! I hope it helps you as much. Love, Anita

Re: Re: I can't sleep - -Marie

I have PMS too. I'm going to try natural progesterone. I have plenty of estrogen, low testosterone. My thyroid is supposedly fine. April, thank you for asking.

How are you?

LMmuir_420 <muir_420@...> wrote:

I was wondering did you have any other signs or symptoms along with the depression and sleeplessness? I believe that hormones can effect so much! I also have saline implants and I am dealing with depression and anxiety. I haven't slept in three nights. > After the birth of my third son, I had a lot of problems..> I was nursing him, and having trouble producing enough> milk to keep up with him..my implants were not supposed > to interfere with nursing as they were placed under the > muscle..> My sons tongue was "tied" and he couldnt suck > properly, and I was feeding every twenty minutes.> > I also had periods of extreme anxiety and excess > energy..> I was always a type A personality anyway, and I > got to where I would

only get four hours a night> no matter what I did...after four hours I was wide > awake.> Then I crashed...after months of no sleep, I could> no longer function...I still could not sleep and was > put on an antidepressant which made me suicidal.> I even ended up in the psych unit very near psychosis.> > After many months of different drugs and even > anticonvulsant medication to make me slow down.> I wasnt getting better.> It turns out I had a thyroid disorder that causes > production of T4 to fluctuate.> After begining medication, Synthroid I was better > after three days...> It completely corrected the sleeping difficulty.> A year and some later, I still take it and I have not> had any return of anxiety or depression since.> April.

[Guest guest]

Marie, No I had too much estrogen and that was the problem. I bled so badly that I was acutely anemic. The doctor said I was in danger of having a heart attack. My gyn gave me the synthetic progesterone but it did nothing. I asked him if he would postpone the surgery so I could try the natural cream.(I got it at the health food store) It really did the trick. I used it for about a year or so and don't even use it anymore. I read on Mercola's site that it stores in the body so I have a feeling that if you get your levels up you don't need to take it forever. I know Mercola advises against long term use. Have you read Dr. Lee's book? Hang in there baby. Love, Anita Re: Re: I can't sleep - -Marie I have PMS too. I'm going to try natural progesterone. I have plenty of estrogen, low testosterone. My thyroid is supposedly fine. April, thank you for asking How are you? LMmuir_420 <muir_420@...> wrote: I was wondering did you have any other signs or symptoms along with the depression and sleeplessness? I believe that hormones can effect so much! I also have saline implants and I am dealing with depression and anxiety. I haven't slept in three nights. > After the birth of my third son, I had a lot of problems..> I was nursing him, and having trouble producing enough> milk to keep up with him..my implants were not supposed > to interfere with nursing as they were placed under the > muscle..> My sons tongue was "tied" and he couldnt suck > properly, and I was feeding every twenty minutes.> > I also had periods of extreme anxiety and excess > energy.> I was always a type A personality anyway, and I > got to where I would only get four hours a night> no matter what I did..after four hours I was wide > awake.> Then I crashed...after months of no sleep, I could> no longer function...I still could not sleep and was > put on an antidepressant which made me suicidal.> I even ended up in the psych unit very near psychosis.> > After many months of different drugs and even > anticonvulsant medication to make me slow down.> I wasnt getting better.> It turns out I had a thyroid disorder that causes > production of T4 to fluctuate.> After begining medication, Synthroid I was better > after three days...> It completely corrected the sleeping difficulty.> A year and some later, I still take it and I have not> had any return of anxiety or depression since.> April.

[Guest guest]

Dear Anita, It sounds like you have a very full plate, between your

son's health, and your own. It seems like you're actively seeking

help and good at ferreting out alternatives and information. I admire

you for that. I'm sure God is in control and loves you both. I just

wanted you to know that you and your son will be in my thoughts and

prayers. Hang in there. I think you'll find your answers. Love, Annie

PS- Dr Mercola is a good source. I would also recommend Maureen

Salaman.

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Thank you so much Annie. The treatment I am pursuing right now is from the article on Mercola's site on Chronic Neurotoxin Syndrome. God bless Dr. Mercola. While I'm sure he is becoming a very wealthy man, his heart seems to be in the right place in helping people to heal. You are right. God is in control. I have prayed for answers and sometimes felt that God didn't hear me but when I look back at all the things I have tried I realize that I learned something each time that led me to where I am now. For example, if I had not gone to Dr. Brodsky for the live cell I would not have connected my son's blood to the Chronic Neurotoxin Syndrome because I would not have known about the hypercoagulation. I appreciate your prayers and thoughts very much. Love, Anita Re: Anita Dear Anita, It sounds like you have a very full plate, between your son's health, and your own. It seems like you're actively seeking help and good at ferreting out alternatives and information. I admire you for that. I'm sure God is in control and loves you both. I just wanted you to know that you and your son will be in my thoughts and prayers. Hang in there. I think you'll find your answers. Love, Annie PS- Dr Mercola is a good source. I would also recommend Maureen Salaman.