Re: Digest Number 925

[Guest guest]

, what is a Remicade appt?

Pat, thanks for the welcome. You know, I was feeling so alone, so isolated,

and already this group feels like home, does that sound crazy? I know it is

bad enough when you have these things wrong and are in your own country, can

you imagine having to deal with this in a foreign country, with very little

support due to the fact taht ther is nobody here other than my husband. His

famiyl is great, but they do not speak English and my German speaking is ok,

but not great. This list has been a lifesaver for me alreday. Thank you.

you might want to alternate heat and ice for your hip, I had to do that

for my back, I hurt it lifting a patient that had a violent seizure, heat was

reccomended, but di not help and often made it worse, ice did not help much

either so they started alternating and it worked miracles....

Pat, thanks for the links, will check them out. I have limited internet

access thouhg so it is hard to check out things on the internet. Bout all I

can do is get and send emails. It is very costly to be online in Germany.....

About using a cane, I had to use one for three years, due to a back injury I

got while lifting a patient that seizured, that injury left me disabled, and

in a lot of pain. I went to doctors, hospitals, did all kinds of tests and

treatments, nothing worked. During this time, to walk, I had to use a cane. I

did feel embarrassed about it at first, but you know, it was wonderful to get

around on my own steam, and like others here have said, people generally are

more courteous to you. I have not used the cane in a while, no need for it

but it is still in my unbrella stand, in case I need it again. I should have

used it when the RA was kicking up last week in my left foot, all the toes

and half the foot were swollen and walking was indeed difficult, but my hands

were effected too and I could not hold the cane. We took our kids to

California summer before last and to Disneyland, and knowing that walking

aggrivates my back injury, I opted for one of those elect. carts, got some

funny looks, but at the end of the day, I did not hav back pain, so it was

worth it.

I want to say< thank you to all of you that have welcomed me to the group.

(smile)

Beverly, did I read correctly that with RA you also get lung disease?

Pat, yes, I know, they are Amaryl, one mg daily, mornings, I am to eat

fifteen min after taking and then two hours later a snack. So far my blood

sugar has been ok, not great but ok, at least not high. And today was on the

low side 87.

With this RA, everywhere there is a joint, the area is tender and sore, and

swollen. Today, my fingers do not even look like fingers they are so bad. I

want to come home and see a dr there, but cannot do so til end of summer. I

feel trapped at the moment, and I hate this feeling. My husband tries to

understand but he is healthy and I am grateful he is, but there isno way he

could ever know the pain I have been in and am still in. Only someone that

has the same pain can understand.

later all, Kitt

[Guest guest]

;

I'm sorry you are having trouble with AFO fit. Keep

after the technician though until it is right!

As for your family, ask them which they prefer someone

who can still do, though with limits, or one who gives

up even small task in life for not using the proper

tools.

Ask them if they would give up reading or choose to

wear glasses so they can continue to read! (you

eventually become dependant on glasses too but it

allows to read or NOT to READ!)

You can't help that your muscles are weak and are

going to get weaker,(can't change the metabolic defect

in your DNA that causes CMT) but you can help yourself

to be more ABLE if you use the aides and tools

available to help you become ABLE!!!!

If they won't listen or understand; Just be confident

in yourself you are doing the " right thing " for you! I

find the more sure I become of what is best for me and

my condition, the more others are accepting of me and

my limits. ~~~~~~Hugssss Libby

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AND MY GOD. " - Helen Keller

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In a message dated 5/5/02 12:48:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

> I went to this site and could not find any product information.

> Just what is it?

Carnosine

What does it do? Carnosine is a small molecule composed of the <A

HREF= " ../Info/Amino_Acids.cfm " >amino acids</A> <A HREF= " Histidine.cfm " >

histidine</A> and <A HREF= " Alanine.cfm " >alanine</A>. It is found in relatively

high concentrations in

several body tissues—most notably in skeletal muscle, heart muscle, and

brain.1 2 The exact biological role of carnosine is not completely

understood, but numerous animal studies have demonstrated that it possesses

strong and specific <A HREF= " ../Info/Antioxidants.cfm " >antioxidant</A>

properties, protects against radiation

damage, improves the function of the heart, and promotes <A

HREF= " ../Concern/Wound_Healing.cfm " >wound healing</A>.3 4 5

6 7 8 Carnosine has been suggested to be the water-soluble counterpart to <A

HREF= " Vitamin_E.cfm " >

vitamin E</A> in protecting cell membranes from oxidative damage. Other

suggested

roles for carnosine include actions as a neurotransmitter (chemical messenger

in the nervous system), modulator of enzyme activities, and chelator of heavy

metals (i.e., a substance that binds heavy metals, possibly reducing their

toxicity).Based primarily on preliminary research from Russia, carnosine has

been claimed to lower <A HREF= " ../Concern/Hypertension.cfm " >blood pressure</A>,

improve the functioning of the <A HREF= " ../Concern/Immune_Function.cfm " >immune

system</A>, promote <A HREF= " ../Concern/Wound_Healing.cfm " >wound healing</A>,

and exert <A HREF= " ../Concern/Cancer_Prevention.cfm " >anticancer</A> effects.

However,

additional research is needed before these claims can be considered

scientifically well documented.The best-documented application of carnosine

is in <A HREF= " ../Concern/Peptic_Ulcer.cfm " >peptic ulcers</A>. Experimental

animal studies have shown that a zinc salt

of carnosine exerts significant protection against ulcer formation and

promotes the healing of existing ulcers.9 10 However, because <A

HREF= " Zinc.cfm " >zinc</A> by itself

has been shown to be helpful against peptic ulcer, it is not known how much

of the beneficial effect was due to the carnosine.11 12 Clinical studies in

humans demonstrated that this compound can help eradicate Helicobacter

pylori, an organism that has been linked to peptic ulcer and stomach

cancer.13 When 60 patients suffering from dyspepsia with <I

style= " mso-bidi-font-style: normal " >H. pylori infection were given either <A

HREF= " ../Drug/Antibiotics.cfm " >

antibiotics</A> alone (<A HREF= " ../Drug/Lansoprazole.cfm " >lansoprazole</A>, <A

HREF= " ../Drug/Amoxicillin.cfm " >amoxicillin</A>, and <A

HREF= " ../Drug/Clarithromycin.cfm " >clarithromycin</A>) or

antibiotics plus zinc carnosine for seven days, better results were seen in

the group receiving zinc carnosine (94% eradication rate vs. 77%). The zinc

salt of carnosine (in combination with sodium alginate) has also shown to be

effective in severe <A HREF= " ../Concern/Gingivitis.cfm " >gingivitis</A> caused by

cancer <A HREF= " ../Drug/Chemotherapy.cfm " >chemotherapy</A>.14Where is it

found? Dietary sources of preformed carnosine include <A

HREF= " ../Food/Meat_and_Poultry.cfm " >meat and poultry</A> and <A

HREF= " ../Food/Fish_and_Seafood.cfm " >

fish</A>.Carnosine has been used in connection with the following conditions

(refer to the individual health concern for complete information):Ranking

Health Concerns

Other <A HREF= " ../Concern/Peptic_Ulcer.cfm " >Peptic ulcers</A> <A

HREF= " ../Concern/Wound_Healing.cfm " >Wound healing</A>

Who is likely to be deficient? Carnosine deficiency may occur in severe

protein deficiency and in certain severe genetic disorders characterized by

inborn errors in <A HREF= " ../Info/Amino_Acids.cfm " >amino acid</A> metabolism.How

much is usually taken? For

eradication of H. pylori, the amount of the zinc carnosine complex used in

research studies was 150 mg twice daily. Due to the lack of human clinical

trials, recommended levels for other applications are not known at this time.

Are there any side effects or interactions? Due to the lack of human studies,

side effects and interactions are not known.At the time of writing, there

were no well-known drug interactions with carnosine.

Jo

Representative for Unlocking Autism in South Carolina

www.unlockingautism.org

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Tony,

NYC has municipal water service... they charge for it though... average for

a 3 person household seems to run 4-700 a year in my experience... best city

water in the world =-)

-bill

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There is no other rheummy. This jerk is it. He is so clueless he makes medication changes and then I tell him your stopped that six months ago...I get."oh" I must be missing dication from your chart. This has been going on for two yrs now!! I just think he is total airhead. He does a lot of stuff that makes NO sense. He is also not pro weight loss surgery and is not interested in coordinating my meds with my restrictions on meds that have high risk of causing ulcers, vomiting or diarrhea. Nor does he listen when I tell him NO I CAN NOT TAKE NSAIDS DUE TO HIGH RISK OF ULCERS. I have to remind him everytime..remember I had weight loss surgery!! The response I get from him is why would you want to do such a thing to yourself. He also does not listen when I tell him about side effects of meds and problems I have about even obtaining the med either due to insurance problems or cost.

He will also tell me talk to your internal med doc about problems with taking meds.....it just pisses me off. He gets snitty with me and tells me you HAVE to take this med. I remind him who pays his salery and I do NOT have to do anything. Docs here in texas seem to have this god attitude. I have seen it many times since moving here. It seems to be more prevelent here than in anyplace else I have lived in the world.

I will have to keep him in some respect since he is the one that signs off on my disbility paperwork...but I do not really listen to him. I have basicly learned to tell him what he wants to her and get the heck out of there!!! I use to try to keep a journel document everything and tell him about how I was really feeling. It becaome very apperent that he was only interested in poking my joints asking a few questions, which were yes or no responses, running a butt load of labwork...and out the door.

The reall funny thing is that for six months he thought I was on MTX/prednisone but I had stopped it cause it was making me sooo sick. when I went he said how wonderful my joints were and how great the MTX/Enbrel/prednisone was combo was working. My labs looked great!!! I had not taken the MTX or the prednisone in over six months!!!! I just smiled and said that is good! He never asked about the constant vomiting and diarrhea I had on MTX..or the terrible mouth, eye and throat sores I had...or if the high doses of folic acid and leucovorin was helping any! He didn't even look in my throat or anything. I went to my internist and he was shocked when I told him and he read my chart and there was no notation of follow up about this problems.

My rheummy also does not believe that Fibromylagia is a disease...he thinks its just some made up BS. He also will not prescribe pain meds. The strongiest thing he says anyone needs is ultram. So he refers me back to my internists for darvocet. I get one bottle of 30 darvocet n-100 pills a year!!!! So its pretty obvious I am not a drug abuser. I even questioned him why he would not prescribe the darvocet and his response was that he does not prescribe narcotics...well we all know that darvocet is NOT a narcotic.

So I will continue to stay with my internal med doc. He is far better. He listens and is willing to learn. He wants to work with me as far as I WANT to go treatment wise. He offers samples anytime and I do not have to begged and asked repeatedly to get ignorred!! I am just hoping that this doc will get tired of our community and move to Ft. Worth where his family is. He moved here from Houston two years ago after I lost an excellent rheummy. My first rheummy was so wonderful and he had a awsome nurse practitioner that I loved. But as well all know with specialty clinics when they start cutting a docs salary and dictating things that docs do not want to do..in the high demand speciality as rheumatology...my doc told the clinic goodbye at the end of his contract and openned his own practice in a different part of the state.

I use to travel there but it got too expensive because he does not accept my insurance and I was paying everything out of pocket. That included any tests, xrays, labs and meds. HMOs do not allow you to go out of network if you do not have out of network benefits built into your plan. This was just not financially feasible for me. I need to stay within the HMO to control my costs. Its funny because this doc has a booming practice and is not a part of any HMO or insurance network. You go cash pay for your visits and get reimbursed and if you have out of network benefits they will file for you.

This brings up another topic..a lot of docs are tired of HMOs and insurance companies,there rules and restrictions how a doc can treat patients. So there is a growing trend of docs going to cash pay only type practices..especially many high demand specialist.

Toni

In a message dated 12/5/2004 10:33:58 PM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:39:03 -0500 From: "Pat Berens" <pberens@...>Subject: Re: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage You said: As far as disease progression I would not know. I haven't seen my rheummy in many months now. He is not pro-surgical weight loss and loves to give me meds which conflict with my new small pouch for a stomach. I plan to dump the rheummy and let my Internal Med doc manage me. Reply: May I tell you a story? My internist was the first doctor to diagnosis my RA. I requested a referral to a rheumy. He thought he could manage my case, but I insisted on the referral. 5 years later I am at the internists office for something or other and he said that I was right to insist on a referral because he would have been afraid to treat me as aggressively as my rheumy had. Dump your present rheumy if you don't like him, but make sure another rheumy is managing your case. This disease is not reversible. We can go into remission but we cannot restore damage that has already been done. Pat

[Guest guest]

Your rheumatologist sounds like an ostrich, puts his head in the sand and doesn't listen to anyone but himself. Anyone who thinks that fibromyalgia is "just a bunch of bs," or it's just in my head, needs to live in my shoes. Walking a mile in anyone of our shoes would change their attitudes quickly!

Fortunately the trend is finally turning where more and more doctors are taking fibromyalgia seriously as research is opening doctors' eyes. Thank God!

-------------- Original message --------------

There is no other rheummy. This jerk is it. He is so clueless he makes medication changes and then I tell him your stopped that six months ago...I get."oh" I must be missing dication from your chart. This has been going on for two yrs now!! I just think he is total airhead. He does a lot of stuff that makes NO sense. He is also not pro weight loss surgery and is not interested in coordinating my meds with my restrictions on meds that have high risk of causing ulcers, vomiting or diarrhea. Nor does he listen when I tell him NO I CAN NOT TAKE NSAIDS DUE TO HIGH RISK OF ULCERS. I have to remind him everytime..remember I had weight loss surgery!! The response I get from him is why would you want to do such a thing to yourself. He also does not listen when I tell him about side effects of meds and problems I have about even obtaining the med either due to insurance problems or cost.

He will also tell me talk to your internal med doc about problems with taking meds.....it just pisses me off. He gets snitty with me and tells me you HAVE to take this med. I remind him who pays his salery and I do NOT have to do anything. Docs here in texas seem to have this god attitude. I have seen it many times since moving here. It seems to be more prevelent here than in anyplace else I have lived in the world.

I will have to keep him in some respect since he is the one that signs off on my disbility paperwork...but I do not really listen to him. I have basicly learned to tell him what he wants to her and get the heck out of there!!! I use to try to keep a journel document everything and tell him about how I was really feeling. It becaome very apperent that he was only interested in poking my joints asking a few questions, which were yes or no responses, running a butt load of labwork...and out the door.

The reall funny thing is that for six months he thought I was on MTX/prednisone but I had stopped it cause it was making me sooo sick. when I went he said how wonderful my joints were and how great the MTX/Enbrel/prednisone was combo was working. My labs looked great!!! I had not taken the MTX or the prednisone in over six months!!!! I just smiled and said that is good! He never asked about the constant vomiting and diarrhea I had on MTX..or the terrible mouth, eye and throat sores I had...or if the high doses of folic acid and leucovorin was helping any! He didn't even look in my throat or anything. I went to my internist and he was shocked when I told him and he read my chart and there was no notation of follow up about this problems.

My rheummy also does not believe that Fibromylagia is a disease...he thinks its just some made up BS. He also will not prescribe pain meds. The strongiest thing he says anyone needs is ultram. So he refers me back to my internists for darvocet. I get one bottle of 30 darvocet n-100 pills a year!!!! So its pretty obvious I am not a drug abuser. I even questioned him why he would not prescribe the darvocet and his response was that he does not prescribe narcotics...well we all know that darvocet is NOT a narcotic.

So I will continue to stay with my internal med doc. He is far better. He listens and is willing to learn. He wants to work with me as far as I WANT to go treatment wise. He offers samples anytime and I do not have to begged and asked repeatedly to get ignorred!! I am just hoping that this doc will get tired of our community and move to Ft. Worth where his family is. He moved here from Houston two years ago after I lost an excellent rheummy. My first rheummy was so wonderful and he had a awsome nurse practitioner that I loved. But as well all know with specialty clinics when they start cutting a docs salary and dictating things that docs do not want to do..in the high demand speciality as rheumatology...my doc told the clinic goodbye at the end of his contract and openned his own practice in a different part of the state.

I use to travel there but it got too expensive because he does not accept my insurance and I was paying everything out of pocket. That included any tests, xrays, labs and meds. HMOs do not allow you to go out of network if you do not have out of network benefits built into your plan. This was just not financially feasible for me. I need to stay within the HMO to control my costs. Its funny because this doc has a booming practice and is not a part of any HMO or insurance network. You go cash pay for your visits and get reimbursed and if you have out of network benefits they will file for you.

This brings up another topic..a lot of docs are tired of HMOs and insurance companies,there rules and restrictions how a doc can treat patients. So there is a growing trend of docs going to cash pay only type practices..especially many high demand specialist.

Toni

In a message dated 12/5/2004 10:33:58 PM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:39:03 -0500 From: "Pat Berens" <pberens@...>Subject: Re: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage You said: As far as disease progression I would not know. I haven't seen my rheummy in many months now. He is not pro-surgical weight loss and loves to give me meds which conflict with my new small pouch for a stomach. I plan to dump the rheummy and let my Internal Med doc manage me. Reply: May I tell you a story? My internist was the first doctor to diagnosis my RA. I requested a referral to a rheumy. He thought he could manage my case, but I insisted on the referral. 5 years later I am at the internists office for something or other and he said that I was right to insist on a referral because he would have been afraid to treat me as aggressively as my rheumy had. Dump your present rheumy if you don't like him, but make sure another rheumy is managing your case. This disease is not reversible. We can go into remission but we cannot restore damage that has already been done. Pat

[Guest guest]

Wow Tony,

I am so glad I live in the UK. I know we have a National health Service that leaves a lot to be desired, but at least our drug costs are controlled to some extent.

You have my sympathy re your rheumy. The last one I went to ( not my present one) told me on my first appointment with him '' no way can you have RA, you don't have the joint damage to support it'' I then asked why I had been kept on sulphasalazine for almost ten years and anti inflammatories and had a constant problems with my blood work if that was not the case. Also why did the last rheumy tell me the joint damage had been minimalised because I was diagnosed so early in the disease''

He sent for my medical records from the previous rheumy and ate humble pie at my next visit...lol Boy that felt so good

It must be so demoralising for you to have to rely on this guy because of your needs, doctors like him shouyld not be in practise. I know in the UK they actually have people skills as part of the training now. Hopefully future generations will keep improving. I have found the younger docs much more willing to listen and work as a team like my new rheumy. I do hope this guy moves on and a decent rheumy replaces him

Docs like him don't seem to realise they are restricting themselves by not being willing to learn and take advice from sufferers. Some just seem to want the job for the title.

Hugs, Lynne

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, Compared to what lies within us."

'' If we lived as wolves do, the planet would be a lot cleaner place! ''

-------Original Message-------

From: aclavern33@...

Date: 12/09/04 04:33:32

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Subject: Re: Digest Number 925

There is no other rheummy. This jerk is it. He is so clueless he makes medication changes and then I tell him your stopped that six months ago...I get."oh" I must be missing dication from your chart. This has been going on for two yrs now!! I just think he is total airhead. He does a lot of stuff that makes NO sense. He is also not pro weight loss surgery and is not interested in coordinating my meds with my restrictions on meds that have high risk of causing ulcers, vomiting or diarrhea. Nor does he listen when I tell him NO I CAN NOT TAKE NSAIDS DUE TO HIGH RISK OF ULCERS. I have to remind him everytime..remember I had weight loss surgery!! The response I get from him is why would you want to do such a thing to yourself. He also does not listen when I tell him about side effects of meds and problems I have about even obtaining the med either due to insurance problems or cost.

He will also tell me talk to your internal med doc about problems with taking meds.....it just pisses me off. He gets snitty with me and tells me you HAVE to take this med. I remind him who pays his salery and I do NOT have to do anything. Docs here in texas seem to have this god attitude. I have seen it many times since moving here. It seems to be more prevelent here than in anyplace else I have lived in the world.

I will have to keep him in some respect since he is the one that signs off on my disbility paperwork...but I do not really listen to him. I have basicly learned to tell him what he wants to her and get the heck out of there!!! I use to try to keep a journel document everything and tell him about how I was really feeling. It becaome very apperent that he was only interested in poking my joints asking a few questions, which were yes or no responses, running a butt load of labwork...and out the door.

The reall funny thing is that for six months he thought I was on MTX/prednisone but I had stopped it cause it was making me sooo sick. when I went he said how wonderful my joints were and how great the MTX/Enbrel/prednisone was combo was working. My labs looked great!!! I had not taken the MTX or the prednisone in over six months!!!! I just smiled and said that is good! He never asked about the constant vomiting and diarrhea I had on MTX..or the terrible mouth, eye and throat sores I had...or if the high doses of folic acid and leucovorin was helping any! He didn't even look in my throat or anything. I went to my internist and he was shocked when I told him and he read my chart and there was no notation of follow up about this problems.

My rheummy also does not believe that Fibromylagia is a disease...he thinks its just some made up BS. He also will not prescribe pain meds. The strongiest thing he says anyone needs is ultram. So he refers me back to my internists for darvocet. I get one bottle of 30 darvocet n-100 pills a year!!!! So its pretty obvious I am not a drug abuser. I even questioned him why he would not prescribe the darvocet and his response was that he does not prescribe narcotics...well we all know that darvocet is NOT a narcotic.

So I will continue to stay with my internal med doc. He is far better. He listens and is willing to learn. He wants to work with me as far as I WANT to go treatment wise. He offers samples anytime and I do not have to begged and asked repeatedly to get ignorred!! I am just hoping that this doc will get tired of our community and move to Ft. Worth where his family is. He moved here from Houston two years ago after I lost an excellent rheummy. My first rheummy was so wonderful and he had a awsome nurse practitioner that I loved. But as well all know with specialty clinics when they start cutting a docs salary and dictating things that docs do not want to do..in the high demand speciality as rheumatology...my doc told the clinic goodbye at the end of his contract and openned his own practice in a different part of the state.

I use to travel there but it got too expensive because he does not accept my insurance and I was paying everything out of pocket. That included any tests, xrays, labs and meds. HMOs do not allow you to go out of network if you do not have out of network benefits built into your plan. This was just not financially feasible for me. I need to stay within the HMO to control my costs. Its funny because this doc has a booming practice and is not a part of any HMO or insurance network. You go cash pay for your visits and get reimbursed and if you have out of network benefits they will file for you.

This brings up another topic..a lot of docs are tired of HMOs and insurance companies,there rules and restrictions how a doc can treat patients. So there is a growing trend of docs going to cash pay only type practices..especially many high demand specialist.

Toni

In a message dated 12/5/2004 10:33:58 PM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 23:39:03 -0500 From: "Pat Berens" <pberens@...>Subject: Re: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage You said: As far as disease progression I would not know. I haven't seen my rheummy in many months now. He is not pro-surgical weight loss and loves to give me meds which conflict with my new small pouch for a stomach. I plan to dump the rheummy and let my Internal Med doc manage me. Reply: May I tell you a story? My internist was the first doctor to diagnosis my RA. I requested a referral to a rheumy. He thought he could manage my case, but I insisted on the referral. 5 years later I am at the internists office for something or other and he said that I was right to insist on a referral because he would have been afraid to treat me as aggressively as my rheumy had. Dump your present rheumy if you don't like him, but make sure another rheumy is managing your case. This disease is not reversible. We can go into remission but we cannot restore damage that has already been done. Pat

[Guest guest]

well the test wassnt as bad as i thought it was going to be but i guess we

will see if i pass or not becasue im unsure if i aced it or if i realy

bombed it, anyway it was good fun now the 60 day wait....oh boy i hope

everyone else taking the test did wonderful

--tim

[Guest guest]

Dear Tim,

I am sure you did fine if you spent at least 4 very hard months studying or if

you are an experienced retail tech studying for about 2 months solid or a

hospital tech studying for about one month solid. That seems to be my finding.

In addition, individual abilities come into play. Some who have never set foot

in a pharmacy do VERY well. And others who are hospital techs just don't test

well, and freeze up. The range is wide.

And then there are the stats from PTCB. In most years approximately 80% of all

who take the exam have passed. So you have a great chance of passing!

I think there have been about 2 yrs when the national average of those who

passed was less than 77%. Failure is below 72% scaled poiints or less than 650

points.

So chin up you probably did very well! I bet you did!

Jeanetta

" B. MacLeod " <tim@...> wrote:

well the test wassnt as bad as i thought it was going to be but i guess we

will see if i pass or not becasue im unsure if i aced it or if i realy

bombed it, anyway it was good fun now the 60 day wait....oh boy i hope

everyone else taking the test did wonderful

--tim

[Guest guest]

yeah, I wanted to post and see how everyone thought they did,

too....I think i did ok...post and let us know

> well the test wassnt as bad as i thought it was going to be but i

guess we

> will see if i pass or not becasue im unsure if i aced it or if i

realy

> bombed it, anyway it was good fun now the 60 day wait....oh boy i

hope

> everyone else taking the test did wonderful

> --tim

[Guest guest]

Geoffrey suggested that one of the things one should look for when

discussing THRs with surgeons is:

>a reasonable assurance from your surgeon that what you get will last

for 15-20 years

Sorry to nitpick, but when you are having a THR in your twenties or

thirties this is not a given, an absolute, or anything more than a

cross-your-fingers-and-hope amount of time. If you have a THR that

young, you will probably throw a party of celebration at year ten, and

count every one of your blessings twice for good measure.

Of course, there are some young patients who get 15, 20, 30 years from

their primary hip, and all power to them, but good surgeons give their

patients the most realistic outcomes, and a full set of warnings.

[Guest guest]

Sorry to nitpick, but when you are having a THR in your twenties or thirties this is not a given, an absolute, or anything more >>> For some young & OLD patients THR just will not work for them as a solution. And regardless of what procedure your speaking of or which doctor might be doing it.... absolute is not in the equation for any of us.

Of course, there are some young patients who get 15, 20, 30 years from their primary hip, and all power to them, but good surgeons give their patients the most realistic outcomes >>> All a matter of opunion... Course here's mine~ maybe those of us that's had a great doctor & complications know for a fact that the realistic end isn't with the one cutting. There again is a miss leading assumption being made, which will only lead people seeking the "flawless doctor" (*so they think) and spending WAY more time on waiting lists which will only end in twice as much pain for them waiting & a VERY RUDE awakening when they come 2 find.... that "doc~ only as so much control in the matter" regardless of "how well they cut". At 33, I had my THR done by a terrific, well known & experienced surgeon with recommendations out the ying yang.... 6 months on the waiting list and almost a year 2 the date was having my first revision. Doctors wouldn't have made a difference~ my body would have still done the very same thing had it been DrDoesNoWrong in another town. I just don't agree with leading someone 2 think that just because they have a terrific doctor = terrific out come. That's miss leading them blindly into the unknown with the ASSUMPTION that because a good doctor is holding their hand~ it'll be great and that just couldn't B further from the truth!

People have 2 realize that yes a good doctor is a necessity but it's only a small part of the FIX 2 the problem. Their body, doc, specific implant needs, the hospital & staff members, along with PT & the patients attitude R all issues which come 2gether.... but in the end~ U get what U get! Bet if U take ANY of those factors out of the equation..... U no longer have the ablity 2 perform regardless of hows left holding the knife.

It's like a ball game~ just because U have the "most qualified ball player with the longest list of home runs" standing on the plate..... it's NO SIGN s/he'll will have another home run 2 chalk up after the batting is done~ somedays their gonna strike out EVEN THOUGH their a "terrific player". Same is true of doctors.... only their playing with the odds of your body, case history & what your health will B after their done. Reseach their degrees & ensure that "they R who they say they R & have a CONFIRMABLE history doing what their degrees say they can".... outside of that~ it becomes a trusting issue. There are many "small town doctors" which do fabulious jobs & have terrific out comes but which wish 2 remain~ more of a "not big named doctors".... don't mean they'll do any less then offer U the best they can in your treatment. If you trust your physician that's been found & done your checking..... don't shuffle them under the rug in search of "perfect~doc" with a much longer waiting list and just as many mistakes~ Go with what your comfortable with & the person U feel U can trust.

good surgeons give their patients the most realistic outcomes >>> All surgeons take the same oath 2 their patients.... and if their "GOOD" then they keep their patients best interests at heart..... that doesn't promise any out come one way or another for their patient!

[Guest guest]

The enzymatic produced vco has a sour taste and goes

bad quite quickly after several weeks even if kept in

a cool dark place or refrigerated.

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[Guest guest]

The enzymatic produced vco has a sour taste and goes

bad quite quickly after several weeks even if kept in

a cool dark place or refrigerated.

--- Coconut Oil wrote:

> There are 9 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. coconut milk

> From: " "

> <karen.anderson9@...>

> 2. Re: Coconut and Avian Flu

> From: Rico <blexdt@...>

> 3. Re: coconut milk

> From: Wilkins

> <montemomma2002@...>

> 4. Ascorbic acid

> From: " csampey99 " <sampey99@...>

> 5. Re: Ascorbic acid

> From: jeanne_simons@...

> 6. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: tess mamangun <vivi_1vco@...>

> 7. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: Hajjah Begum Ibrahim

> <begumibrahim@...>

> 8. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: " fscc " <fscc@...>

> 9. Re: Ascorbic acid

> From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:51:45 -0000

> From: " "

> <karen.anderson9@...>

> Subject: coconut milk

>

> Should coconut milk be refrigerated after it is

> opened?

>

>

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:11:44 -0800 (PST)

> From: Rico <blexdt@...>

> Subject: Re: Coconut and Avian Flu

>

> Hello Dr. Fife,

>

> Please include me in the mailing list for your

> newsletter. Thank you!

>

> Rico Mediano

>

> Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote:

> > This is an article from your news letter.

> > My question is is there any clinical reports which

> > shows the Tamiflue Virus is controlled by Coconut

> oil.

>

> As far as I know there have not been any clinical

> trials.

>

> Coconut and Avian

> Flu

>

>

> > Dr. COconut,

> >

> > This is an article from your news letter.

> > My question is is there any clinical reports which

> > shows the Tamiflue Virus is controlled by Coconut

> oil.

> >

> > REGARDS

> > K SRAO.

> >

> > Your news letter shows as follows:

> >

> >

> > Currently Tamiflu is the only medical weapon we

> have

> > to fight the avian virus. Even if it were

> effective in

> > stopping the flu we would not be safe. Most

> countries

> > have only limited supplies. The US probably has

> the

> > largest inventory but if the flu strikes now it

> would

> > only be enough to treat 200,000 people. Even if

> > government stockpiles equaled a hundred times that

> > amount-enough vaccines to treat 20 million

> people-that

> > still leaves 280 million Americans without the

> > possibility of getting treatment. While the maker

> of

> > Tamiflu is busy churning out the vaccine and

> > distributing it worldwide, there won't be enough

> for

> > everyone and not everyone can afford it. That

> means

> > that most of us must find an alternative means to

> > fight of the flu.

> >

> > Since there is no medication that will protect

> against

> > the avian flu, natural remedies may be your best

> > defense. One of the best natural defenses we have

> > against the flu is coconut. Coconut oil possesses

> > powerful antiviral properties that can kill the

> flu

> > virus, including H5N1.

> >

> > Coconut oil is composed of a special group of fats

> > known as medium-chain triglycerides. Our bodies

> > convert these fats into medium-chain fatty acids

> and

> > monoglycerides both of which have been shown to be

> > effective in killing lipid coated viruses. H5N1 is

> a

> > lipid coated virus.

> >

> > By consuming a couple of spoonfuls of coconut oil

> > daily you can develop an immunity of sorts to the

> flu.

> > Coconut oil also helps boost the immune system

> > enabling the body to fight off infections more

> > efficiently. This is a safe and economical means

> to

> > protect yourself from the flu. In the absence of

> any

> > other form of treatment coconut oil may be the

> answer

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > K Sreenivasa Rao

> > cell: +91 9846300104.

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

The enzymatic produced vco has a sour taste and goes

bad quite quickly after several weeks even if kept in

a cool dark place or refrigerated.

--- Coconut Oil wrote:

> There are 9 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. coconut milk

> From: " "

> <karen.anderson9@...>

> 2. Re: Coconut and Avian Flu

> From: Rico <blexdt@...>

> 3. Re: coconut milk

> From: Wilkins

> <montemomma2002@...>

> 4. Ascorbic acid

> From: " csampey99 " <sampey99@...>

> 5. Re: Ascorbic acid

> From: jeanne_simons@...

> 6. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: tess mamangun <vivi_1vco@...>

> 7. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: Hajjah Begum Ibrahim

> <begumibrahim@...>

> 8. Re: Making Virgin Coconut Oil

> From: " fscc " <fscc@...>

> 9. Re: Ascorbic acid

> From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:51:45 -0000

> From: " "

> <karen.anderson9@...>

> Subject: coconut milk

>

> Should coconut milk be refrigerated after it is

> opened?

>

>

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:11:44 -0800 (PST)

> From: Rico <blexdt@...>

> Subject: Re: Coconut and Avian Flu

>

> Hello Dr. Fife,

>

> Please include me in the mailing list for your

> newsletter. Thank you!

>

> Rico Mediano

>

> Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote:

> > This is an article from your news letter.

> > My question is is there any clinical reports which

> > shows the Tamiflue Virus is controlled by Coconut

> oil.

>

> As far as I know there have not been any clinical

> trials.

>

> Coconut and Avian

> Flu

>

>

> > Dr. COconut,

> >

> > This is an article from your news letter.

> > My question is is there any clinical reports which

> > shows the Tamiflue Virus is controlled by Coconut

> oil.

> >

> > REGARDS

> > K SRAO.

> >

> > Your news letter shows as follows:

> >

> >

> > Currently Tamiflu is the only medical weapon we

> have

> > to fight the avian virus. Even if it were

> effective in

> > stopping the flu we would not be safe. Most

> countries

> > have only limited supplies. The US probably has

> the

> > largest inventory but if the flu strikes now it

> would

> > only be enough to treat 200,000 people. Even if

> > government stockpiles equaled a hundred times that

> > amount-enough vaccines to treat 20 million

> people-that

> > still leaves 280 million Americans without the

> > possibility of getting treatment. While the maker

> of

> > Tamiflu is busy churning out the vaccine and

> > distributing it worldwide, there won't be enough

> for

> > everyone and not everyone can afford it. That

> means

> > that most of us must find an alternative means to

> > fight of the flu.

> >

> > Since there is no medication that will protect

> against

> > the avian flu, natural remedies may be your best

> > defense. One of the best natural defenses we have

> > against the flu is coconut. Coconut oil possesses

> > powerful antiviral properties that can kill the

> flu

> > virus, including H5N1.

> >

> > Coconut oil is composed of a special group of fats

> > known as medium-chain triglycerides. Our bodies

> > convert these fats into medium-chain fatty acids

> and

> > monoglycerides both of which have been shown to be

> > effective in killing lipid coated viruses. H5N1 is

> a

> > lipid coated virus.

> >

> > By consuming a couple of spoonfuls of coconut oil

> > daily you can develop an immunity of sorts to the

> flu.

> > Coconut oil also helps boost the immune system

> > enabling the body to fight off infections more

> > efficiently. This is a safe and economical means

> to

> > protect yourself from the flu. In the absence of

> any

> > other form of treatment coconut oil may be the

> answer

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > K Sreenivasa Rao

> > cell: +91 9846300104.

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >