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> All of this is meant to reassure all of us parents of OCDers that our

> kids are not psychotic. People with OCD are aware that their thoughts

> (and kids I think tend to describe their thoughts as " voices " ) are not

> real. It is the fear that they instill that is real. Does this make

> sense to anyone?

I think that it's quite possible that some kids refer to intrusive thoughts

as " voices " - they certainly do feel like they're coming from somewhere

outside one's self. You are correct when you state that OCD folks are

generally aware that their thoughts are not real. Knowing that doesn't stop

the anxiety they produce, though, as you said.

I've found that at times when I'm having an internal " dialogue " with my OCD

I'm simultaneously moving the back of my tongue and making quiet, glottal

clicks in the rear of my throat. I can certainly see how a person with a

psychosis or some form of dementia could hear their own " clicking " and

interpret it as outside voices. In fact, I think I read somewhere that some

schizophrenics are know to hear " voices " in this way (can't remember the

reference, though).

Certain OCD medications I've taken have caused auditory and visual

hallucinations - actual " hear it " / " see it " hallucinations, not just fear of

what I MIGHT see or hear. The auditory hallucinations often take the form

of whispering voices - I can't tell what they're saying, but they definitely

sound human. I still hear them at times (even on different medications),

but I find them somewhat comforting for some reason. I'm fully aware that

they're the product of the meds, though, and nothing real.

Visual hallucinations are much less common with me, but one med in

particular caused them all the time. I saw a ferris wheel, people in the

room with me who weren't really there, running animals, and " tracer " lines

following moving objects, among other things. The objects looked like they

were there, but didn't really look " real " - in other words, I could tell a

hallucinatory object from a real one. It was great fun watching them

because I knew that they were just side-effects from medication. To be

quite honest, I sort of miss them sometimes - some of them were really

entertaining.

I guess what I'm getting to is that I agree with you completely when you

state that most OCD sufferers know the difference between

voices/hallucinations and reality. It often helps to externalize your OCD

thoughts by assigning them to outside forces - though you know that they're

a part of you, thinking of them as external things helps you to maintain a

feeling of sanity and focus.

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I only received two of the seven messages listed in this digest. Thanks for

helping with the problem

---- Original Message -----

From: < >

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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 6:43 AM

Subject: Digest Number 922

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

opinion of the Research Institute.

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Nizoral, pinching

From: Kkscharste@...

2. Re: Digest Number 921

From: " hemry " <hemry@...>

3. Re: Nizoral

From: " kathleen przekwas " <evchk96@...>

4. Re: Pinching - help!

From: " kathleen przekwas " <evchk96@...>

5. Re: Pinching - help!

From: mball13@...

6. Re: Nizoral

From: " Stillman " <courtneycns@...>

7. Nizoral and Pinching

From: " Hinds " <Hindssite@...>

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:09:05 EDT

From: Kkscharste@...

Subject: Nizoral, pinching

Re nizoral: My understanding is that you should NOT discontinue any

medication until instructed to do so unless you are seeing the adverse side

affects that you were previously warned about. There may be positives that

you do not recognize yourself until you are questioned about your child's

functioning.

Re: pinching

We successfully ended this behavior by pairing " no pinching " by holding my

child's hands down close to his side so as to prevent the pinching. Since

he

hated to be restrained, this worked as an aversive, so he began to stop

pinching to avoid the restraining. It took a while for him to see that we

were not going to let him get away with the pinching. First you usually see

an acceleration of pinching (the " test " ), then quick decrease in pinching.

The key is to not give up during the increase in pinching, thinking your

intervention isn't working. Hope this helps

Kate

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:58:44 -0400

From: " hemry " <hemry@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 921

Based on the last message in this group, our computer may have been used by

a virus to try to disseminate itself. The lack of an attachment to the

message means it probably didn't succeed in this case (I assume

automatically refused to forward the attachment). The virus we found on our

hard drive is W32/Magistr, which automatically sends out copies of itself.

If you've received any email from us with an attachment, please delete

without reading and use your virus protection system to scan your Windows

files. We regret any problems this may cause anyone. J. Hemry

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connie,

maybe, you need to convert your avi-files in another avi-format (there seem

to be different ways of decoding avis. you could use e.g. the programm

videomach from: http://www.gromada.com

best

stephan odermatt, switzerland

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> Message: 2

> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:13:20 -0000

> From: " cbalmony " <cbalmony@...>

> Subject: AVI

>

>

> I have the AVI unlock feature for BrainMaster. I also have a video

> camera that saves my videos in AVI. I was hoping I could use home

> videos of my kids as the " reward " feature in BM, but when I saved it

> in the file and chose it, nothing happened. Does anyone know if

> there is a way to use my own AVI files on the BM?

>

> Connie

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Joyce,

I made some diet changes, started exercising, drinking water and loosing weight. NSAIDS can be very dangerous, because you can get unexplained GI bleeding from them..so I do not take any NSAIDS. Prednisone can also cause GI distress as well, plus some serious bloating.

I am a post op surgical weight loss patient..so my diet, exercise and water is for life. So far it works great.

I also left my high stress, higg pressure job. which almost immediately decreased my pain.

toni

In a message dated 12/3/2004 1:41:53 AM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:11:06 -0600 From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@...>Subject: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damageHow are you bearing out Toni? I'm suppose to be taking Naproxyn500mg but OTC Motrin is just as good if I take 800mg. I also take Darvocet 200mg and Prednison 20mg prn. On bad daysnone of it helps. I have been thinking of asking my Dr togive me a shot of Prednisone in my lower back. Thats what he wantedto do this past April when I had the worst flareup with RA I haveever had. My son died in April which caused the flareup. I never realized stress could cause so much pain that I could hardly walk orget up and down..............Joyce

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Hi Joyce,

I noticed a big change in myself when I altered my diet. I try to eat as little processes food as possible, stick to decaffeinated drinks and avoid sugar. These seem to be my main food triggers. The big one for flaring me up, apart from infections, is stress. I find meditation, even for ten minutes helps me.

Sometimes changing your diet or lifestyle isn't easy, but it really is worth the effort. I have found my weekly food bill is actually less since I began using fresh fruit and veg instead of frozen. Then again, I am lucky I have a big market not too far from me.

If anyone would like advice on meditation & methods to use, please contact me off list at AmethystWillowWolf1@... and I will be happy to help.

Big Hugs to everyone, Lynne

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'' If we lived as wolves do, the planet would be a lot cleaner place! ''

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Toni, I believe you are right that NSAIDs are very dangerous. I had

to go to the hospital this morning to have some tests done. They

found I have diverticulosis, two ulcers in my stomach and have

acid refulx. The doctor said he thought the ulcers are from the

arthritis medicine that I've taken for so long and prescribed Nexium.

Gee that stuff is expensive............Joyce

----- Original Message -----

From: aclavern33@...

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:55 AM

Subject: Re: Digest Number 922

Joyce,

I made some diet changes, started exercising, drinking water and loosing weight. NSAIDS can be very dangerous, because you can get unexplained GI bleeding from them..so I do not take any NSAIDS. Prednisone can also cause GI distress as well, plus some serious bloating.

I am a post op surgical weight loss patient..so my diet, exercise and water is for life. So far it works great.

I also left my high stress, higg pressure job. which almost immediately decreased my pain.

toni

In a message dated 12/3/2004 1:41:53 AM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:11:06 -0600 From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@...>Subject: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damageHow are you bearing out Toni? I'm suppose to be taking Naproxyn500mg but OTC Motrin is just as good if I take 800mg. I also take Darvocet 200mg and Prednison 20mg prn. On bad daysnone of it helps. I have been thinking of asking my Dr togive me a shot of Prednisone in my lower back. Thats what he wantedto do this past April when I had the worst flareup with RA I haveever had. My son died in April which caused the flareup. I never realized stress could cause so much pain that I could hardly walk orget up and down..............Joyce

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i got ulcers from the meds i was on thst is when they put me on

vioxx now they have me on mobic i also have acid refulix and hace to

take previced every day thanks to the meds i was

on sherrie

> Toni, I believe you are right that NSAIDs are very dangerous. I

had

> to go to the hospital this morning to have some tests done. They

> found I have diverticulosis, two ulcers in my stomach and have

> acid refulx. The doctor said he thought the ulcers are from the

> arthritis medicine that I've taken for so long and prescribed

Nexium.

> Gee that stuff is expensive............Joyce

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: aclavern33@a...

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:55 AM

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 922

>

>

> Joyce,

> I made some diet changes, started exercising, drinking water and

loosing weight. NSAIDS can be very dangerous, because you can get

unexplained GI bleeding from them..so I do not take any NSAIDS.

Prednisone can also cause GI distress as well, plus some serious

bloating.

>

> I am a post op surgical weight loss patient..so my diet,

exercise and water is for life. So far it works great.

>

> I also left my high stress, higg pressure job. which almost

immediately decreased my pain.

>

> toni

>

> In a message dated 12/3/2004 1:41:53 AM Central Standard Time,

Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:

> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:11:06 -0600

> From: " Joyce McCrary " <j.mccrary@2...>

> Subject: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage

>

> How are you bearing out Toni? I'm suppose to be taking

Naproxyn

> 500mg but OTC Motrin is just as good if I take 800mg. I also

take

> Darvocet 200mg and Prednison 20mg prn. On bad days

> none of it helps. I have been thinking of asking my Dr to

> give me a shot of Prednisone in my lower back. Thats what he

wanted

> to do this past April when I had the worst flareup with RA I

have

> ever had. My son died in April which caused the flareup. I

never

> realized stress could cause so much pain that I could hardly

walk or

> get up and down..............Joyce

>

>

>

>

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hi i just read your e-mail i was on vioxx for about 8 years and then one day they call me to say it is off the market. so i tried to go without but a flaore -up now i am on mobic and it seems to be working, i also have acid-reflux but a small case of it. i just hope they don't find any trouble with mobic down the line. annmariescorn720 <scorn720@...> wrote:

i got ulcers from the meds i was on thst is when they put me on vioxx now they have me on mobic i also have acid refulix and hace to take previced every day thanks to the meds i was on sherrie> Toni, I believe you are right that NSAIDs are very dangerous. I had> to go to the hospital this morning to have some tests done. They> found I have diverticulosis, two ulcers in my stomach and have> acid refulx. The doctor said he thought the ulcers are from the > arthritis medicine that I've taken for so long and prescribed Nexium. > Gee that stuff is

expensive............Joyce> ----- Original Message ----- > From: aclavern33@a... > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:55 AM> Subject: Re: Digest Number 922> > > Joyce,> I made some diet changes, started exercising, drinking water and loosing weight. NSAIDS can be very dangerous, because you can get unexplained GI bleeding from them..so I do not take any NSAIDS. Prednisone can also cause GI distress as well, plus some serious bloating. > > I am a post op surgical weight loss patient..so my diet, exercise and water is for life. So far it works great.> > I also left my high stress, higg pressure job. which almost immediately decreased my pain.> >

toni> > In a message dated 12/3/2004 1:41:53 AM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:11:06 -0600> From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@2...>> Subject: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage> > How are you bearing out Toni? I'm suppose to be taking Naproxyn> 500mg but OTC Motrin is just as good if I take 800mg. I also take > Darvocet 200mg and Prednison 20mg prn. On bad days> none of it helps. I have been thinking of asking my Dr to> give me a shot of Prednisone in my lower back. Thats what he wanted> to do this past April when I had

the worst flareup with RA I have> ever had. My son died in April which caused the flareup. I never > realized stress could cause so much pain that I could hardly walk or> get up and down..............Joyce> > > >

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I recently had a gastroscopy and found I have small erosuons in my stomach caused by the meds. They also tested for gluten tolerance and I am ok on that.

The doc put me on Lansoprazole for the erosions and acid reflux, I have been told some people need to take these as long as they take medsd as a preventative agains ulcers.

hugs Lynnw

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters, Compared to what lies within us."

'' If we lived as wolves do, the planet would be a lot cleaner place! ''

-------Original Message-------

From: ann dailey

Date: 12/08/04 13:50:57

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 922

hi i just read your e-mail i was on vioxx for about 8 years and then one day they call me to say it is off the market. so i tried to go without but a flaore -up now i am on mobic and it seems to be working, i also have acid-reflux but a small case of it. i just hope they don't find any trouble with mobic down the line. annmariescorn720 <scorn720@...> wrote: i got ulcers from the meds i was on thst is when they put me on vioxx now they have me on mobic i also have acid refulix and hace to take previced every day thanks to the meds i was on sherrie> Toni, I believe you are right that NSAIDs are very dangerous. I had> to go to the hospital this morning to have some tests done. They> found I have diverticulosis, two ulcers in my stomach and have> acid refulx. The doctor said he thought the ulcers are from the > arthritis medicine that I've taken for so long and prescribed Nexium. > Gee that stuff is expensive............Joyce> ----- Original Message ----- > From: aclavern33@a... > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:55 AM> Subject: Re: Digest Number 922> > > Joyce,> I made some diet changes, started exercising, drinking water and loosing weight. NSAIDS can be very dangerous, because you can get unexplained GI bleeding from them..so I do not take any NSAIDS. Prednisone can also cause GI distress as well, plus some serious bloating. > > I am a post op surgical weight loss patient..so my diet, exercise and water is for life. So far it works great.> > I also left my high stress, higg pressure job. which almost immediately decreased my pain.> > toni> > In a message dated 12/3/2004 1:41:53 AM Central Standard Time, Rheumatoid Arthritis writes:> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 00:11:06 -0600> From: "Joyce McCrary" <j.mccrary@2...>> Subject: Re: All drugs have the potential to do serious damage> > How are you bearing out Toni? I'm suppose to be taking Naproxyn> 500mg but OTC Motrin is just as good if I take 800mg. I also take > Darvocet 200mg and Prednison 20mg prn. On bad days> none of it helps. I have been thinking of asking my Dr to> give me a shot of Prednisone in my lower back. Thats what he wanted> to do this past April when I had the worst flareup with RA I have> ever had. My son died in April which caused the flareup. I never > realized stress could cause so much pain that I could hardly walk or> get up and down..............Joyce> > > >

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To Haja and Tess,

Thank you so much for the lead on how i can purchase

coconut oil.

Someone asked if a heart attack victim can take

coconut oil. A cousin-in-law of mine had open heart

surgery (changed defective [from birth] valves) and

after a month or two his wife came to me asking for

more of the vco we made. Apparently, both of them

took it even before the surgery. After the surgery he

wanted to take more and i said make sure you ask his

doctor first before giving him his tablespoon a day

(that kinda scared me). His famous and seasoned

cardiologist allowed him to do it.

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Do not send anymore e-mails. Thank You

Coconut Oil wrote: There are 18 messages in this

issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. cholesterol

From: mary@...

2. cooking with coconut oil

From: Biderman

3. Re: Fat and Protein

From: " k8teeth "

4. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: " "

5. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: Wilkins

6. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: " "

7. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: tess mamangun

8. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: Biderman

9. coconut flour brownie recipe

From: jeanne_simons@...

10. Re: cooking with coconut oil

From: Wilkins

11. Re: Digest Number 921

From: melly banagale

12. Re: Digest Number 921

From: Hajjah Begum Ibrahim

13. How do you know if coconut oil is causing you to detox?

From: " godsfood4us "

14. correction " coconut flour brownie recipe

From: jeanne_simons@...

15. Re: How do you know if coconut oil is causing you to detox?

From: tess mamangun

16. Re: Digest Number 921

From: tess mamangun

17. Can coconut be used by heart attack survivor???

From: Noel Elardo

18. RE: correction " coconut flour brownie recipe

From: " Deb Casey "

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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 16:28:52 +0000

From: mary@...

Subject: cholesterol

I'm interested to know if anyone has had a significant change in their

cholesterol level with eating VCO.

Has anyone found their cholesterol has gone up or down?

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Message: 2

Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:29:37 -0800 (PST)

From: Biderman

Subject: cooking with coconut oil

I'd just like to give an additional bit of information about my cooking

practices with flavored coconut oils.

1) I never use it out of the bottle on salads or anything that doesn't require

it to be heated to a moderate or higher first. Garlic flavored in my husband

favorite in his scrambled eggs. Since more harmful bateria are destroyed by heat

I think this would take care of any concerns.

2) I only make enough of the flavored oil to last a few days and not weeks.

3) I always wash and dry the bottles in between refillings.

Becca Biderman

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Helping you live the good life of Panama!

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