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From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

Mark,

I have never had a herx either, although I have had flares that lasted

months. When I first started the Minocin I was so dizzy from it I thought I

couldn't take it, but I waited a week, and started to take it with some

toast in the morning and it was fine............Bev

Hi Bev, Mark...............how the heck do you tell the difference between a

herx and a flare? This is one question I would love to have an answer to.

Be well......

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I'm with your , when I started Minocin my RA had just reared up and

my shoulders were a mess. They got worse, but I couldn't tell if it was

a herk or a flare. I know you can tell with blood tests, but most of us

are using GP's so have to tell them what tests to run. The only thing

that makes me think I had a herk was when suggested I lower my

dose of Minocin for awhile I felt better.

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> From: Sala <joeysala@...>

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> From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

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> Mark,

> I have never had a herx either, although I have had flares that

> lasted

> months. When I first started the Minocin I was so dizzy from it I

> thought I

> couldn't take it, but I waited a week, and started to take it with

> some

> toast in the morning and it was fine............Bev

>

>

> Hi Bev, Mark...............how the heck do you tell the difference

> between a herx and a flare? This is one question I would love to have

> an answer to.

> Be well......

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I think a herx usually comes after a sudden switch in medications or increase in

dosage, so if you've done one of those and you start to hurt like crazy, you're

probably herxing. I think the feeling is the same as a flare.

Mark

rheumatic herx/flare

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From: " Briarwood " <briarwood@...>

Mark,

I have never had a herx either, although I have had flares that lasted

months. When I first started the Minocin I was so dizzy from it I thought I

couldn't take it, but I waited a week, and started to take it with some

toast in the morning and it was fine............Bev

Hi Bev, Mark...............how the heck do you tell the difference between a

herx and a flare? This is one question I would love to have an answer to.

Be well......

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As I recall, a herx takes place when the mycoplasmas are being released from

the joints...there is info this on the rheumatic site.....I believe a herx is

usually short in duration (though flares can be as well).

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Blessings and Health

Tony (Diagnosed Sero-Neg. RA Apr 99; on AP since 5 Oct 99)

Meds (Dr Prescribed): Methotrexate 10MG per week; Folic Acid 2MG per day;

Prednisone 10mg daily; Sulfasalazine 4G daily; Plaquinil 400mg daily;

Minocycline 100mg 2X daily; Prilosec 20-40mg daily

Alternative Meds/Herbs: Flax Seed Oil (Omega 3, 6, 9) 6g daily; MSM 2g daily;

Pantothenic Acid (B5) 2g daily; Niacin (B6) 1g Daily; Echinacea/Goldenseal

420mg daily; Milk Thistle 350mg daily; Ginseng 840mg daily; Chitosan 2g

Daily; Lactobacillis Acidopholis 2 capsules daily

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Hi ,

I may be all wet but I am under the impression a herx comes about because you

have changed your medication and I've never done that. I have been on the same

dose of 2 100 mg Minocin for 16 months so the summer of flu like feeling and

stiffness would be a flare. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but that's

what I have understood.

Bev

Hi Bev, Mark...............how the heck do you tell the difference between a

herx and a flare? This is one question I would love to have an answer to.

Be well......

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From: Snooks <snooks@...>

According to Dr. Brown, the white blood cell count will elevate in a

Herxheimer and lower in a flare.

In a Herxheimer you will also see an elevation of SED rate, gamma

globulin and total globulin and a fall in serum albumin and hematocrit -

known to us as getting worse before you get better.

Ethel

> From: Sala <joeysala@...>

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> Hi Bev, Mark...............how the heck do you tell the difference between

> a herx and a flare? This is one question I would love to have an answer

> to.

> Be well......

>

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