Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Taking antibiotic sure is making me tired. Is this normal, when havent been on antibiotic forever?JAHwww.glutenfreeeugene.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 We need to know what you're eating, and their amounts.Complex carbs are not necessary, but calories are, fats are an energy boon to a lot of us, etc.Baden_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi ! Do not worry. When I first started the diet, I was exhausted. It was hard to stand up! However, as I progressed and introduced more items, I became energized and strong. Introducing almond butter either coincided with a natural return of energy or contributed to an increase. Either way, it's good stuff. (But don't rush to introduce! It will take patience.) Just know that you're not alone in your experience. Also, I definitely struggled during that period because I had a very active job (think teenagers!), but it worked out anyway. CD11 years SCD 20 months > > I don't know why, but I feel so exhausted. I've been on the SCD for > around 1.5 weeks and I can't get over how tired I am. Is it the lack > of carbs and sugars? I'm a PhD student, so I can't afford to to feel > this way...I need to be able to focus on work. Since my stomach > problems were mainly due to IBS and lactose-intolerance, not more > serious disorders/diseases, I wonder if I should introduce complex > carbs back into my diet. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't > feel like a zombie all the time! > > Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi . I also started on SCD because of IBS and lactose-intolerance, and in the hope that this diet would cure my leaky gut problems, including tendencies to develop new allergies to foods and poor absorption of minerals. My IBS is much improved after nearly 6 months on SCD, and so far I haven't developed any new food allergies. I haven't had any tests to determine whether I am absorbing minerals better. Compared to the digestive system problems of many people on this list, I have it easy, as do you, I suppose. SCD works by eliminating complex carbohydrates, because they are difficult to digest, and their undigested components feed bad microorganisms in our systems. So I strongly urge you to refrain from adding these back to your diet. Instead, I would recommend that you increase your intake of simple carbohydrates, such as honey, fruits (deseeded and cooked at this stage of the diet), and tolerable vegetables (peeled, deseeded and cooked). I bought frozen berries and cooked them in small batches on the stove for the first few weeks. I'm allergic to apples, but if you aren't, then home-made applesauce (baked or cooked on the stovetop) is supposed to be particularly easy to digest. I'm also allergic to bananas. If you can eat them, you should let them get a bit brown, but you can then eat them without cooking. I was able to start eating almond butter after about a week on SCD. I was very constipated by that time, but the nut butter solved that problem. I was also more than my usual level of fatigued after starting on this diet, but, since I have suffered from myalgic encephalomyelitis (also called chronic fatigue immune dysfunction) for many years, I could not say for certain whether the diet was the cause of all my extra fatigue. It could have stemmed from other stressors in my life at the time. I don't recall how long it took me to get past that fatigue, to get to my usual low energy level. I think the more variety of foods I ate, the better my energy became. What foods are you eating currently? Are you getting enough proteins and fats? Have you started making yogurt? If all else fails, I think that some people skip the introductory phase of the diet, and instead gradually wean themselves off non-SCD foods, replacing them with SCD versions. Once they have converted all their diet to SCD, they go on the introductory phase (2-5 days with the choices listed in the BTVC book). In this way, they don't have to deal with withdrawal from foods at the same time as they are limited only to the introductory diet. But it is necessary to do the introduction at some point, to begin killing off the bad organisms. Hope this helps. Ellen in Toronto, Canada SCD nearly 6 months " heatherjspiegel " wrote: >I don't know why, but I feel so exhausted. I've been on the SCD for > around 1.5 weeks and I can't get over how tired I am. Is it the lack > of carbs and sugars? I'm a PhD student, so I can't afford to to feel > this way...I need to be able to focus on work. Since my stomach > problems were mainly due to IBS and lactose-intolerance, not more > serious disorders/diseases, I wonder if I should introduce complex > carbs back into my diet. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't > feel like a zombie all the time! > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 You're probably in the worst phase of detoxing right now. Fatigue is a common symptom with die-off. But on SCD you also have to eat more often, and make sure you get plenty of proteins and fats. Since we don't eat complex carbs in the forms of grains and starches our bodies need to refuel more frequently. When I started SCD I had to switch to eating small meals frequently; I eat something every 2 to 3 hours. I also had to learn to eat more proteins throughout the day, plus more fats. Since you're not dealing with an IBD, I'd be adding permitted foods steadily. You can certainly try some of the more advanced SCD foods as well. My advice is to eat often, and just keep going. Of course if your fatigue doesn't improve, then check in with your doctor and make sure there isn't something else going on. You might be low in B12 or iron. Kim M. SCD 5 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know why, but I feel so exhausted. I've been on the SCD for around 1.5 weeks and I can't get over how tired I am. Is it the lack of carbs and sugars? I'm a PhD student, so I can't afford to to feel this way...I need to be able to focus on work. Since my stomach problems were mainly due to IBS and lactose-intolerance, not more serious disorders/diseases, I wonder if I should introduce complex carbs back into my diet. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't feel like a zombie all the time!Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I felt the exact same way in the beginning of the diet. Along with major leg and feet cramps. It did get better, but yes I believer it is in part to not eating carbs. Even though sugar is an evil it does have some purpose. Once I ate fruits I did get energy back. Now I eat more fruit than anything. Still don't have enough energy to run a marathon or anything but it did get help. If you can't tolorate fruit start with fruit juice that is diluted. Put some natrual sugar back into your body. Also you feel worse before feeling better. Part of the "Die off" >> I don't know why, but I feel so exhausted. I've been on the SCD for > around 1.5 weeks and I can't get over how tired I am. Is it the lack > of carbs and sugars? I'm a PhD student, so I can't afford to to feel > this way...I need to be able to focus on work. Since my stomach > problems were mainly due to IBS and lactose-intolerance , not more > serious disorders/diseases, I wonder if I should introduce complex > carbs back into my diet. Does anyone have any suggestions. I can't > feel like a zombie all the time!> > Thanks,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Hi , From my own experience with exhaustion and other symptoms, I have to be extra careful of these foods: eggs fruits (one a day with nut butter--and no bananas or oranges. No fruit until after 3 pm.) dairy nuts raw veggies baked stuff honey What I find helpful: zucchini, celery, and carrots well-cooked cauliflower and cabbage well-cooked (I think I tolerate these now) some kind of good fat with each meal, such as ghee, almond butter, avocado a little almond butter (with the one piece of fruit late afternoon) 5 to 7 meals a day (each one containing protein + good fat + lots of cooked veggies--except the fruit and nut butter one) when things are going well, I eat every 2 hours broth with three meals each day When I first started SCD, I introduced many foods too quickly and I had to eliminate and eliminate. :-) all the best, Louise MCS, ME/CFS, FM--severely ill since 1973 food sensitivities and candida scd--Feb. 25/08 Vancouver Island, BC, Canada -----Original Message-----From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ]On Behalf Of heather spiegelSent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:14 AMTo: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: Exhaustion Thanks everyone for all of your advice. This is what I generally eat: I guess I skipped the whole introductory phase and just stopped everything that was 'illegal'. I started the diet after picking up Elaine's book and the Grain Free Gourmet. Breakfast Omlette with at least 2 eggs and sometimes 2-4 egg whites as well Fresh vegetables and herbs 1/2 tsp canola oil Fresh fruit - either an apple, raspberries or peach Snack fruit or almonds (all natural, not roasted or salted) Lunch Salad (spinach, red pepper, green pepper, cucumber, green onion) sometimes olive oil and balsamic vinegar as dressing Protein - either chicken or tuna - great recipes (especially Peanut Sauced Quick Chicken) from Grain Free Gourmet Fruit for dessert Snack More almonds (as you can see, I eat lots and lots of almonds) Fresh cut up veggies Dinner Some sort of stirfry...more salad 1-2 tbsp nut butter (either almond or organic peanut butter) That's about it I guess...I don't need a lot of calories because I'm 5'2"/115lbs-118lbs, but I have noticed that I've gone up a few pounds in the last couple weeks. I think I went crazy with the nut butter at the beginning. I'm still experimenting with the recipes, and the ones of the Grain Free Gourmet are delicious (including the carrot muffins). I just find that by 1pm-3pm I feel almost run over by a truck. Because I also have a problem with insulin resistance, a nutritionist told me to watch my sugar intake (which means I shouldn't eat that much fruit or honey), especially after 3pm. I really appreciate everyone's feedback. Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Whats wrong with eggs, or banana for you? I love raw egg yolk with a banana and coconut oil........... franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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