Re: loose stools, what does it mean?

[Guest guest]

I don't have info but am on 8 months too -and just having my first

real D this week -it's since wed now- I'm being scoped tues -hope I

get some answers -I'll share after

eileen

hope it improves - does soup help?? it usually firms my BM's - but I

have to live off it mon and tues at least so didn't want it now-silly

i know

>

> What do loose stools, without blood, indicate? It seems that on

this diet

> lots of people complain about loose stools being an issue, and

wasn't such

> an issue prior to SCD, especially in terms of duration. Since

starting the

> diet 8 months ago I've had loose stools. That had never happened

that long,

> for me, since being diagnosed with UC 11 years ago. The longest

lasted 3

> months prior to SCD and healing typically took place within a two

to three

> month period.

>

>

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

I started the diet in

Feb and am converted. Can’t imagine going back to the old ways and I’ve learned

so much on this diet!.

In July the

colonoscopy confirmed UC was still active and my doctor actually said to me

that he didn’t think this diet was working for me. Hmmm….

He switched me from

asacol (I have a history of lymphoma so that limits my medication options) to

Lialda (mesalamine) and added rowasa. The rowasa has helped.

The standard intro

diet from BTVC didn’t work for me.

I don’t tolerate dairy

well, so the DCCC, cheesecake, and eggs were a problem. Bananas are a problem

for me (as it was w/ my mom) and I react to Welch’s grape juice.

The chicken soup and

chicken were fine. So my start was rough—trying to figure this all out has

taken some time.

I feel good—my

lifestyle isn’t stopped by UC-- but the persistent D hasn’t stopped since I

started this diet!

It seems to be a

problem with many on this diet and I’m wondering why.

Thanks,

Donna

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:50 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: loose stools, what does it mean?

I don't have info but am on 8 months too -and

just having my first

real D this week -it's since wed now- I'm being scoped tues -hope I

get some answers -I'll share after

eileen

hope it improves - does soup help?? it usually firms my BM's - but I

have to live off it mon and tues at least so didn't want it now-silly

i know

[Guest guest]

Donna,

>> my doctor actually said to me that he didn’t think this diet was

working for me. Hmmm…. <<

Well, of course not. It's not something he controls. While some doctors

are genuinely interested in helping their patients get well by whatever

means -- and those doctors are jewels without price -- too many are

control freaks who denigrate anything they aren't in charge of.

>> The standard intro diet from BTVC didn’t work for me.

<<

Me either. I couldn't find DCCC (didn't until after I had been on SCD for

four years!) and didn't have the energy to make yogurt. So my intro diet

was (and is) an every two hours snack of baked meat, then steamed

zucchini, then baked meat, then steamed zucchini, then soft boiled eggs,

then steamed zucchini, then baked meat.... you get the picture.

I couldn't find a legal cider, and grape juice, even diluted, gave me the

runs. (Still does, actually.) I was OK with the Tropicana Original

no-pulp orange juice, although some people have trouble with citru at the

beginning of the diet.

>> I feel good­my lifestyle isn’t stopped by UC-- but the

persistent D hasn’t stopped since I started this diet! <<

How long have you had UC? While some lucky people experience almost

immediate cessation of symptoms, the majority of us poor slobs have to

struggle along, moving three steps forward and two steps back.

>> It seems to be a problem with many on this diet and I’m

wondering why. <<

Healing by nutrition takes time. I had almost immediate (well, within 3-4

months) reduction in the urgency and soft, mushy stool. But it took

several years before I was having what I could call a normal-normal

stool. Now I'm working on the other aspect of my disease: obesity caused

by malabsorption. That's going to take awhile. I was close to 300 pounds

over my proper weight. I've lost 180, and have 110 - 120 to go.

I'm patient -- after 25 years of urgency and soft, mushy stool, gut

aches, diarrhea, social embarrassment with accidents, my current years on

SCD are nothing.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Have you tried taking L-glutamine powder in water hour before you eat?JAHSCD 4 yearshttp://www.glutenfreeeugene.org/xl2/scd.html--- On

Sun, 9/28/08, Donna wrote:Subject: RE: Re: loose stools, what does it mean?To: BTVC-SCD Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 10:28 AM

I started the diet in

Feb and am converted. Can’t imagine going back to the old ways and I’ve learned

so much on this diet!. In July the

colonoscopy confirmed UC was still active and my doctor actually said to me

that he didn’t think this diet was working for me. Hmmm…. He switched me from

asacol (I have a history of lymphoma so that limits my medication options) to

Lialda (mesalamine) and added rowasa. The rowasa has helped. The standard intro

diet from BTVC didn’t work for me. I don’t tolerate dairy

well, so the DCCC, cheesecake, and eggs were a problem. Bananas are a problem

for me (as it was w/ my mom) and I react to Welch’s grape juice. The chicken soup and

chicken were fine. So my start was rough—trying to figure this all out has

taken some time. I feel good—my

lifestyle isn’t stopped by UC-- but the persistent D hasn’t stopped since I

started this diet! It seems to be a

problem with many on this diet and I’m wondering why. Thanks, Donna

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of blackguitarmaker

Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:50 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: loose stools, what does it mean?

I don't have info but am on 8 months too -and

just having my first

real D this week -it's since wed now- I'm being scoped tues -hope I

get some answers -I'll share after

eileen

hope it improves - does soup help?? it usually firms my BM's - but I

have to live off it mon and tues at least so didn't want it now-silly

i know

[Guest guest]

I rarely suffer from D, as long as I'm doing SCD Legal yogurt or

probiotics,and I don't over do the Mag I take for soft tissue pain.

When it is an issue(like when I mess up on the prior) I have great luck

eating very ripe organic bananas. These need to be spotted with a fair

amount of black for this fruit to do it's magic. This works for me,

even when transit time is very short.

[Guest guest]

I’ve never tried this. Is this

commonly used in conjunction w/ SCD?

Thanks,

Donna

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of J.A.H.

Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:28 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: RE: Re: loose stools, what does it mean?

Have you tried taking L-glutamine powder in water hour

before you eat?

JAH

SCD 4 years

http://www.glutenfreeeugene.org/xl2/scd.html

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Thanks for the info on your intro

diet.

I tolerate baked meat, steamed

zucchini, and chicken soup well.

I’ve had UC for 11 years.

For the first 9 it was

mild-moderate. Once or twice a year I‘d get a flare and would get over it

within a couple of months. D was limited to times of flare. Never had to take steroids

until a

year and a half ago when I had my

first real setback—loss a lot of weight, hospitalized, etc. Took me a

while to recover.

Colonoscopy then showed that the

colon was fully involved. So the fact that the colonoscopy this summer only

showed 1/3rd involvement was a good sign to me, but the doctor

wouldn’t acknowledge it.

Also, as an aside, my bone density

was worsening these past few years and we delayed med’s for it until this

summer’s round of bone density.

Great rebound. My bone density

went back to the counts from a few years ago. I attribute this to the SCD diet!

No med’s needed.

You lost 180—congratulations.

Sounds like you’re a fighter, and survivor!

Thanks,

Donna