Exercise

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/19/01 5:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

BILL@... writes:

<< I am so excited! I have been wishing for something like this.

> Go to www.asontv.com and look at the AB Doer Pro.

> >>

Hello the House,

The first thing that came to mind was, The person selling it is named

Abdo and the machine is the AB-Doer. Is that a coincidence? The other

thought that came to me is, people buy these exercise machines, then after a

short time using them they get bored out of there mind and quit. Waste of

money. The reason any legitimate excise program i,e. YMCA, etc., suggest you

hook up with a partner is to prevent boredom.

E

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/19/2001 2:43:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

BILL@... writes:

> If balance is an issue

> than I would say yes. Remember, it won't do the work for you.

> Regards,

>

Well I figured It wouldn't do the work for me. I am not lazy just can't

exercise like the average person.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/19/2001 4:18:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jege6666@... writes:

> Waste of

> money. The reason any legitimate excise program i,e. YMCA, etc., suggest

> you

> hook up with a partner is to prevent boredom.

> E

>

>

you look pregnant for 6 years and when your sick of it you'll want an AB

Doer too.

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In a message dated 2/19/01 7:37:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Mommy2Adam@... writes:

<< you look pregnant for 6 years and when your sick of it you'll want an

AB

Doer too.

>>

, I do look pregnant :-)

[Guest guest]

,

I own one of these and while it is a better than average piece of equipment

it really does not do any thing for you that can not be accomplished with a

broom handle behind your neck. The best feature is the seat, you do not have

to fight your balance as much as when you are standing up. The real question

is, is it worth the almost $200.00 with shipping etc. If balance is an issue

than I would say yes. Remember, it won't do the work for you.

Regards,

BC

----- Original Message -----

From: <Mommy2Adam@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:10 AM

Subject: [] Exercise

> I am so excited! I have been wishing for something like this.

> Go to www.asontv.com and look at the AB Doer Pro.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/2001 8:18:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

BILL@... writes:

<< ,

I DID NOT mean to imply that you are lazy. I was generalizing. Every garage

sale I have ever been to has at least one excercycle and stairstepper for

sale.

Regards,

BC >>

Oh and here I thought you were thinking I thought I didn't have to do any of

the work. LOL

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/20/2001 11:13:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

BILL@... writes:

<< Boredom definately comes into play, however most people do not see the

amazing results as promised on TV >>

The people we see on TV advertising these products have never had a weight

problem in their life. They have good genes, good elastin in their skin and

good muscles. These are not results that we see.

[Guest guest]

,

Boredom definately comes into play, however most people do not see the

amazing results as promised on TV. Any excercise program must be combined

with proper diet. To burn one pound of fat we must exhaust 3500 calories,

for the average person that is a one and a half to two day food supply. The

AB-Doer will tighten and firm your abdominal muscles, actually making them

larger, however only diet and cardiovascular excercise will reduce the

amount of fat on our waistlines and take off inches.

To lose weight we must burn more than we consume.

Regards,

BC

----- Original Message -----

From: <jege6666@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:55 PM

Subject: Re: [] Exercise

> In a message dated 2/19/01 5:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> BILL@... writes:

>

> << I am so excited! I have been wishing for something like this.

> > Go to www.asontv.com and look at the AB Doer Pro.

> > >>

> Hello the House,

> The first thing that came to mind was, The person selling it is

named

> Abdo and the machine is the AB-Doer. Is that a coincidence? The

other

> thought that came to me is, people buy these exercise machines, then after

a

> short time using them they get bored out of there mind and quit. Waste of

> money. The reason any legitimate excise program i,e. YMCA, etc., suggest

you

> hook up with a partner is to prevent boredom.

> E

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I DID NOT mean to imply that you are lazy. I was generalizing. Every garage

sale I have ever been to has at least one excercycle and stairstepper for

sale.

Regards,

BC

----- Original Message -----

From: <Mommy2Adam@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:21 PM

Subject: Re: [] Exercise

> In a message dated 2/19/2001 2:43:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> BILL@... writes:

>

>

> > If balance is an issue

> > than I would say yes. Remember, it won't do the work for you.

> > Regards,

> >

>

> Well I figured It wouldn't do the work for me. I am not lazy just can't

> exercise like the average person.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

I agree with Becky and Kat about

exercise causing damage to some

people with CMT. When I started

progressing fast the neurologist sent

me for physiotherapy, I kept

progressing, so he upped the exercise

programme!! Like Becky I went from

being fully active through AFOs,

walking stick, knee braces, crutches,

arm supports and wrist/hand splints

over a period of about 3 or 4 years. I

know that the intense exercise

programme contributed to the weak,

damaged muscles I now have. I only

managed to get my condition under

control when I changed neurologists

to one who preferred to treat me with

more rest rather than more exercise.

I personally think that whether exercise

is good or bad for us CMTers depends

on whether the nerves affected in an

individual are restricted to small areas

or are distributed in many areas of the

body.

Joyce

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce,

I'v been reading about the progression and how exercise can affect it. I

took my kids to the rehab doctor a few weeks ago and he explained how that

happens. To much exercise is bad for anyone with this. He said that if the

muscles or nerves are over stimulated it dose progress the weakness.

Liz

[Guest guest]

Hi ph: Welcome to the support group. Please avail yourself of the

archives and all the interesting and educational material in the " files " on

the home page.

Unfortunately not everything is known about CR/exercise and a lot of other

topics, although we have develped theories from the literature available and

discussions on the lists with very bright people. The current consensus is

to ease up on too much exercise since it causes you to eat more calories.

Walford only exercises moderately. The most current thinking is to remember

three words: CALORIES, CALORIES, CALORIES!!!! If you take in a lot, you

won't get the benefits of CR. See the references below which are taken from

the intro file (Philosophy and resourses)

http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article & ID=1222

http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?PageType=article & ID=1223

That being said, several people are avid exercisers such as yourself and

still manage their strenuous programs with limited caloric intake.

>Message: 3

> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 06:06:04 -0800 (PST)

> From: ph <indilzar@...>

>Subject: CR and exercise

>

>Greetings CRers:

>

>I have recently finished reading Beyond the 120 Year

>Diet. I have to say I am intrigued by the whole

>prospect, not so much at extending maximum life spans,

>but the preventive measures involved. I want to start

>a CR lifestyle, but I am just leary on how this might

>effect my exercise performance, in particular running.

>If I am running say 45 - 60 minutes a day 5-6 days a

>week, should I have an increased caloric intake when

>compared to other more sedentary CRists?

>

>Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I agree with Francesca that you need to reduce calorie intake, thus high

intensity exercise is a big drawback (because you must eat more).

ph, you should also remember that long exercise sessions also

produce a lot of free radicals, which is counter productive for health

and long life.

However, I believe that having fun, and feeling good about yourself are

as important as life-extension, and may very well be life extending on

their own merit. So go on, keep on the good exercise, try to have

shorter workouts (30 - 40 minutes), and shift to some more interval

training (wind sprints) for better hormonal response.

Have fun,

Micky.

[Guest guest]

--- Micky Snir <mickys@...> wrote:

> I agree with Francesca that you need to reduce

> calorie intake, thus high

> intensity exercise is a big drawback (because you

> must eat more).

> ph, you should also remember that long exercise

> sessions also

> produce a lot of free radicals, which is counter

> productive for health

> and long life.

> However, I believe that having fun, and feeling good

> about yourself are

> as important as life-extension, and may very well be

> life extending on

> their own merit. So go on, keep on the good

> exercise, try to have

> shorter workouts (30 - 40 minutes), and shift to

> some more interval

> training (wind sprints) for better hormonal

> response.

>

> Have fun,

> Micky.

Thanks Micky!

You know the only reason why I have such long sessions

is because I am marathon training (want to complete my

Normally my aerobic workouts go no longer than 45

minutes and weight training is moderate. I will

definitely be cutting back some afterwards.

Joe

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mike. When did you start CR? I ask

because I suspect that starting CR without reducing your workout volumes got

you into overtraining (15-20 miles per week is moderate only among the extreme J ). One of the signs of

overtraining is upper respiratory infections, which you stated that you haven’t

had one in years, so I thought maybe it is connected.

Micky.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike Harkreader

[mailto:titanmeister@...]

Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002

9:09 AM

Subject: [ ] Exercise

Micky stated:

I'm all for mild exercise. I think that resistance

training is more

important for " the elderly " . Maybe a

combination is best.

I've been exercising most of my life and for the

past 20+ years I

have run and lifted free weights fairly

consistently. At times I've

had a heavy training regimine in preparing for

running marathons, of

which I've completed four. When not raining

for a martahon my

running program is moderate, averaging between

15-20 miles per week.

I also do some in-line skating for aeorbic work at

times in place of

a run. I lift moderate weights 2-3 times per

week.

I recently had a cold and upper respiratory infection

which hit me

hard (my first one in years) and I didn't feel

like lifting and did

not for three weeks. I did not run for 10

days. I was amazed at how

quickly I lost muscle tone and size. Perhaps

this is due to getting

older (I'm 51). Anyway it was a real wake-up

call for me to realize

how important consistent resistance training

is. The running is

something that if I don't do has a real impact

also. I just feel

more sluggish and have less energy and an

increased appetite when I

don't run. Obviously this has a snowball

effect and it's all

negative.

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Hi

I am a retired physiotherapist and I have a lot of experience regarding

exercise. Personally I exercise when I feel like it,I dont do too much at a time

and I dont do any more exercise until I have recovered from the last

session........thaats the basics!

philip

[Guest guest]

Phil: thanks for coming out of the woodwork. Let's hear more from you and

some of the other lurkers. That's what makes the board useful and

educational for the benefit of everyone.

on 1/9/2003 3:15 PM, Philip at physio.care@... wrote:

> Hi

>

> I am a retired physiotherapist and I have a lot of experience regarding

> exercise. Personally I exercise when I feel like it,I dont do too much at a

> time and I dont do any more exercise until I have recovered from the last

> session........thaats the basics!

>

>

> philip

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jacy, what's a Gazelle? I mean, I know the animal... lolJacy <jacymail@...> wrote:

I use a Gazelle when I can.

Hugs, Jacy

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ms. JM

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 16:13

Subject: Exercise

Hey I noticed no one responded to my exercise post and it got me thinking.

Are we all exercising? How do you exercise ?

All my life I walked and now I'm not up to it most days. I know there is a warm water swimming group in my area but I'm not able to get to it.

Do any of you guys work with a PT?

love and peace to you all yellow

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[Guest guest]

It uses a gliding motion and you don't lift your feet, so it is easier on the joints.

It also monitors time on the machine, mph, distance, and calories burned.

Here is the one I have: Tony Little's Gazelle Edge. It is under $100.

Hugs, Jacy

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"Ms. JM" <platoconversations@...> wrote:

Yeah, . We've had record lows here in Michigan.

I was ailing pretty bad with it (but i'm luck in a way, because I am mostly

always at home.)

But my body aligned itself to the weather and when it warmed up, I got

a burst of relief! Very strange, but I'm taking no prisoners!

Short of eating only fruit, I gain without trying.

Stay warm, !

love and peace to you

yellowYes Yellow I've forgotten what its like to have real relief from this mess warm or cold its either hurt or worse so i guess now im starting to beleive itll not come along with my knees and hips being so bad right now my elbows have started up to allmost bring tears to your eyes they are full of bone spurrs i just wanna go to sleep now the only time i dont hurt sorry about whinning

later john

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[Guest guest]

Hey Jacy,

Is that you modeling it in the picture? That device looks like it

would give you a good workout.

I have a treadmill with a lift motor which lets it do inclines.

There are several pre-programmed courses with various levels

of 'hills'. I try to do at least 30 minutes 3 times a week, which

has been 1.75 - 2 miles. This morning I barely made it 20 minutes -

my muscles were so tired that I had to quit. I hope it's just

fatigue and not the flu that my son seems to have caught from

school...

Beth

--- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " Jacy " <jacymail@c...>

wrote:

> It uses a gliding motion and you don't lift your feet, so it is

easier on the joints.

> It also monitors time on the machine, mph, distance, and calories

burned.

> Here is the one I have: Tony Little's Gazelle Edge. It is under

$100.

>

>

> Hugs, Jacy ~Women don't have hot flashes;

we have power surges.

>

>

> jacymail@c...

> IM: jacygal - ICQ: 96949087

> www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

>

>

>

>

> Want a signature like this?

[Guest guest]

doesn't sound like whining to me.

You're just stating the truth. It's important to share.john no_way <kentuckycowboy1@...> wrote:

"Ms. JM" <platoconversations@...> wrote:

Yeah, . We've had record lows here in Michigan.

I was ailing pretty bad with it (but i'm luck in a way, because I am mostly

always at home.)

But my body aligned itself to the weather and when it warmed up, I got

a burst of relief! Very strange, but I'm taking no prisoners!

Short of eating only fruit, I gain without trying.

Stay warm, !

love and peace to you

yellowYes Yellow I've forgotten what its like to have real relief from this mess warm or cold its either hurt or worse so i guess now im starting to beleive itll not come along with my knees and hips being so bad right now my elbows have started up to allmost bring tears to your eyes they are full of bone spurrs i just wanna go to sleep now the only time i dont hurt sorry about whinning

later john

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[Guest guest]

I want to get a gazelle but Walmart didn't have any at the store

when I was there two days ago. I may have to order it off the

internet............Joyce M

----- Original Message -----

From: Jacy

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: Exercise

It uses a gliding motion and you don't lift your feet, so it is easier on the joints.

It also monitors time on the machine, mph, distance, and calories burned.

Here is the one I have: Tony Little's Gazelle Edge. It is under $100.

Hugs, Jacy

~Women don't have hot flashes; we have power surges.

jacymail@...IM: jacygal - ICQ: 96949087www.geocities.com/mtn_rose

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[Guest guest]

--- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " Ms. JM " <platoconversations@y...>

wrote:

> Sounds like your RA is very well controlled!

> I couldn't even pretend to do the stairs.

Three months ago, I couldn't either! I am one of the lucky few that MTX really

works well for. Before the MTX I couldn't climb a filght of stairs either...or

even carry a coffee cup in one hand! In ten days I was 90% asymptomatic. I

still have quite a bit if stiffness in my right hand, and when I have a flare, I

get gimpy, but most of the time I can lead a pretty much normal life. I take 5

MTX a week and 1000 mg naproxen a day.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

> It uses a gliding motion and you don't lift your feet, so it is easier on the

joints.

> It also monitors time on the machine, mph, distance, and calories burned.

> Here is the one I have: Tony Little's Gazelle Edge. It is under $100.

I'm such a klutz I'd break my neck on that thing! LOL. I had a nordic track and

never could get the hang of it. I kept falling off it.

Sharon