Another question for the ladies

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, Try soy milk or a soy powdered drink, I was getting the flashes alot

and this has worked for me and 2 of my friends. I have about 3 glasses of it

a week, try it and see I hope it helps you, as everyone is different. Chris

from Ohio

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I, too, have had a hysterectomy. I really believe that we should have a

close monitor of ALL hormone levels. Finding a dr that'll do that, is

another problem. I do know that it can be done by home saliva test, forgot

the lab, but I've got it somewhere & I'll go digging if you are interested.

I'm at the point of putting money aside and paying out of pocket.

I take a tri-estrogen, natural based, made by the Women's Pharmacy, (I think

they're in Wisconsin). After all the research and a VERY unsuccessful

attempt at having a compounding pharmacy make if for me, I got one of the

local pharmacies to order it from Women's Pharmacy, then they bill my ins.

co. (I have Medicaid & phoned a supervisor for assistance, then got it

approved for prior approval. The impossible CAN be done!) I react a lot

better on this than Premarin & the rest of them - I got horrible migraines -

the worst I've ever had in my life- with the Premarin.

If you can, pick up a copy of " Listening to Your Hormones " by Gillian Ford.

When I read this book, I almost cried (of course, it could have been the

menopause...) She explains that we are all made different. For some,

progesterone (the natural one, of course) is right for our bodies, for

others, estrogen is, and some need both. It's a combo of trial and error,

AND close monitoring of the hormone levels.

Now if I can only find a dr who will listen...... HA!

Lyn

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>Help me, please! I am sweating to death! About five months ago, I

>halfed my estrogen, Premarin, in half and started on the " natural yam "

>progesterone cream. I was told that the estrogen created my weight and

>was not good for my body in light of fighting my disease and tha the

>natural was what I needed. So here I am. I told was to use a very

>small amount of the cream every night, which I do. I start off a

>little cold and within an hour, I am sweating all night and this is

>interfering with my sleep. I am 55 years young and have had no parts

>for 16 years when I had a hysterectomy due to a tumor. Now doesn't that

>description sound attractive? I look young, feel young and am

>sweating...... I hate this. Any suggestions? my dx: scleraderma

>

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Hi:

Its Martha - Does anyone know anything about

Estratabs - that is what a gyn in Fl. wanting

to prescribe - last time I went around this

" wilderness " trip about hormones. My Mother

had breast cancer - did not die with it however,

but Alzheimers as many of you know - she was a

cancer surviror of 14 yrs = but my aunt (Mom's sister)

did die of breast cancer in the 60's - so I am a little

reluctant to take estrogen - but of course all my friends

and doctors, etc. say oh you must take it - etc. for your

heart and against Alzheimers Disease - so what does one do?

Thanks for all of your input into these posts.

Martha

marthannon1@...

>From: " Lyn B " <paniangelica@...>

>slfain@...

>CC: rheumaticegroups

>Subject: Re: rheumatic Another Question for the Ladies

>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 21:10:05 EST

>

>-

>

>I, too, have had a hysterectomy. I really believe that we should have a

>close monitor of ALL hormone levels. Finding a dr that'll do that, is

>another problem. I do know that it can be done by home saliva test, forgot

>the lab, but I've got it somewhere & I'll go digging if you are interested.

>I'm at the point of putting money aside and paying out of pocket.

>

>I take a tri-estrogen, natural based, made by the Women's Pharmacy, (I

>think

>they're in Wisconsin). After all the research and a VERY unsuccessful

>attempt at having a compounding pharmacy make if for me, I got one of the

>local pharmacies to order it from Women's Pharmacy, then they bill my ins.

>co. (I have Medicaid & phoned a supervisor for assistance, then got it

>approved for prior approval. The impossible CAN be done!) I react a lot

>better on this than Premarin & the rest of them - I got horrible migraines

>-

>the worst I've ever had in my life- with the Premarin.

>

>If you can, pick up a copy of " Listening to Your Hormones " by Gillian Ford.

>When I read this book, I almost cried (of course, it could have been the

>menopause...) She explains that we are all made different. For some,

>progesterone (the natural one, of course) is right for our bodies, for

>others, estrogen is, and some need both. It's a combo of trial and error,

>AND close monitoring of the hormone levels.

>

>Now if I can only find a dr who will listen...... HA!

>

>Lyn

>

>=================

> >Help me, please! I am sweating to death! About five months ago, I

> >halfed my estrogen, Premarin, in half and started on the " natural yam "

> >progesterone cream. I was told that the estrogen created my weight and

> >was not good for my body in light of fighting my disease and tha the

> >natural was what I needed. So here I am. I told was to use a very

> >small amount of the cream every night, which I do. I start off a

> >little cold and within an hour, I am sweating all night and this is

> >interfering with my sleep. I am 55 years young and have had no parts

> >for 16 years when I had a hysterectomy due to a tumor. Now doesn't that

> >description sound attractive? I look young, feel young and am

> >sweating...... I hate this. Any suggestions? my dx: scleraderma

> >

>

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Dear , I am posting your response to my question on the web here as this

seems to be a needed topic here. A scleraderma " cure " who has mentored me - and

I did mean that word, CURE, as she is completely well now, had told me that I

must not take estrogen, that I had to keep my body completely natural. So that

is why I followed that advice. I will go off the progesterone cream - by the

way, the health food stores tout this as a substitute for the estrogen - and

boot

my estrogen back to the original dosage and see if this situation resolves.

What

exactly does the progesterone cream do then for the body? I had purchased a

book, WHAT YOU DOCTOR MAY NOT HAVE TOLD YOU ABOUT HORMONES - which I have only

just started and it supports the fact that natural is the way to go but that it

can bring about its own box of problems. Don't know what those are yet as I have

to keep reading. So much to do and so little time to do it! Any insight into

this would most probably be appreciated by the ladies here as I don't think I am

unique and the progesterone cream is big business here. Many thanks,

D. Shaw wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I don't know if I'm allowed to answer this! :-) but anyway...

>

> > Help me, please! I am sweating to death! About five months ago, I

> > halfed my estrogen, Premarin, in half and started on the " natural yam "

> > progesterone cream.

>

> The progesterone cream isn't a substitute for the Premarin - they are

> different hormones, and won't do the same job.

>

> > I was told that the estrogen created my weight and

> > was not good for my body in light of fighting my disease and tha the

> > natural was what I needed.

>

> That is interesting - I'm not sure why it should impair your ability to fight

> disease. The weight thing is known, but you can get around that by dieting.

>

> > So here I am. I told was to use a very

> > small amount of the cream every night, which I do.

>

> What I don't understand is why you were advised that this cream might be a

> replacement for Oestrogen (Premarin). I'm not sure why you would need a

> progesterone cream at all, assuming that you didn't take a progesterone

> supplement before.

>

> I hope that helps,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Black cohosh is very good - also Dong Quai and evening primrose oil. Black

cohosh seems to have worked for most of the women I know who have sweats.

The sweats are caused by decreased estrogen, but I guess you already know

that.

Chris.

On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Fain wrote:

> Help me, please! I am sweating to death! About five months ago, I

> halfed my estrogen, Premarin, in half and started on the " natural yam "

> progesterone cream. I was told that the estrogen created my weight and

> was not good for my body in light of fighting my disease and tha the

> natural was what I needed. So here I am. I told was to use a very

> small amount of the cream every night, which I do. I start off a

> little cold and within an hour, I am sweating all night and this is

> interfering with my sleep. I am 55 years young and have had no parts

> for 16 years when I had a hysterectomy due to a tumor. Now doesn't that

> description sound attractive? I look young, feel young and am

> sweating...... I hate this. Any suggestions? my dx: scleraderma

>

>

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I had hot flashes a few years ago, I tried the Dong Quai and it really

worked! I would simply pop a supplement pill for a few days and, voila, they

disappeared for weeks. It made a believer out of me, as I had never before

then even considered any type of supplements. Just my own personal

experience.

Babs

[Guest guest]

My daughter had that problem and it was endometriosis. She had a D & C at age

15/16 and was put on massive antibiotics. She was told she could never have

children. My grandaughter is 13 and my grandson is 4. So much for that

diagnosis.

Later I took her to a homeopath and he treated her for candida amongst other

things. She is mostly ok now but also in her 30's.

from Canada

Hilchie

'Be Well and Prosper'

Nikken Independent Wellness Consultant

http://www.5pillars.com/maryhilchie

>From: " pollycreature <huckle@...> " <huckle@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Introduction, and another question for the ladies

>Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:38:12 -0000

>

>Well, she is only 15, so I'm thinking that endometriosis is probably

>not the problem for her at the moment. If she had been a bit older I

>would have been more worried about that being a likely cause.

>

>When I say prolonged, I am meaning about 9 days out of the month,

>which seems excessive to me! I have always been about 5 days out of

>35, much better statistics :-)

>

>I am trying to find some chaste tree berry, and can easily give her

>some magnesium and B vitamins.

>

>Kili, I was really interested in what you had to say. I will try to

>find out more.

>

>We just found out my youngest daughter is 0- boy were we surprised,

>hubbie is A+ me O+, never suspected either of us carried - genes...

>So, that's 4 0's in one house, cooking is looking easier!

>

>

>Thanks again

>-Ruth

>

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I'm troubled by RA-induced vaginal dryness. A gynecologist I saw

suggested using a low dose, localized estrogen (delivered via a

rubber ring). He gave me a sample of one, but I haven't tried it yet.

My rheumy said it was o.k. to use. Has anyone tried anything like

this? And, if the problem is caused by R.A. would this even help?

I'm a little nervous about adding yet one more Rx to my mixture, but

I'm only 43 and married, and would like to alleviate this problem.

Sierra

[Guest guest]

Sierra,

I got one of those rings and never used it. I found someone that helps

me with bio-identical hormones...combination of progesterone, estriol, and

testosterone. I was in a very BAD way and this lady really helped me and it

is not the kind of stuff that would cause cancer. Most of the regular GYN's

will push estrogen that causes cancer.....

I have a compounded prescription cream that I rub on nightly and also one

that I insert once a week. It really helped.

Kay

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> suggested using a low dose, localized estrogen (delivered via a

> rubber ring). He gave me a sample of one, but I haven't tried it yet.

> My rheumy said it was o.k. to use. Has anyone tried anything like

> this? And, if the problem is caused by R.A. would this even help?

> I'm a little nervous about adding yet one more Rx to my mixture, but

> I'm only 43 and married, and would like to alleviate this problem.

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