Re: Re: Just visited a 12-step site.....Isn't there another way?

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The only time I don't advise someone to avoid 12 steps at all costs is when they're mandated and don't want to pay the other price. In those cases I advise them to keep very good records and notes of all events, conversations, etc. because they may be able to sue in civil if not criminal court someday.

Dave Trippel

Re: Just visited a 12-step site.....Isn't there another way?

Hi,Eventually she may snap to the fact that it's > all ridiculous, but in the meantime she might get the support she > needs to knock off the gambling. Basically, I guess I'd tell her, "I > don't think you have a disease, but if you're convinced that you do, > you can get support from other people who believe compulsive gambling > is a disease. So go to GA."I disagree. Going into a step group might set her back years. They teach powerlessness, and reinforce that idea over and over. GA sounds like just another entrance into the cult.I have a strong feeling that AA actually makes drinking behavior worse for a sizable population, and I don't see how GA would be any different.I *used* to think that some "support" was better than going it alone, but now I'm convinced that the XA brand is not it. OTOH, I did go through that process and stay abstinent for 3 years and did eventually come out of it again, blah, blah. I don't have my own personal control group for doing it any other way. However, I wouldn't wish XA on anyone.