Re: SCD: In the beginning, what should I expect (to impact Ulcerative Colitis)?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> This question has everything to do with how to measure success or

> failure early on with SCD. I'm immediately experiencing some changes

> to my more recently developed pattern of Ulcerative Colitis (UC)

> symptoms, and want to determine if it's expected, or a warning of

> something new. Numerous answers are welcomed!

>

> Background:

> I'm a big believer in the SCD diet, and therefore a recent convert.

> I'm currently on day 4, but almost immediately on day 2, I began

> experiencing a few UC symptoms that had been previously eliminated

> with my anti-inflammatory medications (i.e. Asacol/mesalamine).

> Symptoms include increased (but moderate) stomach pains, " lightning

> strike " pains to my rectum (lasting a couple of seconds per

> occurrence), and increased mucus being excreted.

what are you eating? in particular did you start the yogurt? and if

so, how much did you consume?

Are there symptoms of improvement as well? Or other changes, good

or bad?

>

>

> I realize that people's experiences will likely vary per timetable and

> actual results, but, I'm trying to determine a common expectation to

> help me measure success versus new harm. (Btw, the latter statement

> is not to discount the merits of SCD (which I believe makes sense, and

> likely great for most if not all people), but don't want to ignore

> that possibility that everyone runs the risk of responding differently

> (and therefore, effective treatment needs to be individualized).

>

> Thanks so much - personally, I'm hopeful that I'm experiencing some

> sort of bad bacteria die-off that feels awful, but is a temporary and

> necessary path to recovery.

It's possible - but depends on other factors concerning diet.

Also, remember once you stop eating polysaccharides things that

you could consume before without trouble, you will grow sensitive to

now. And this can be true for advanced foods as well.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply, Mara!

I don't include any form or dairy yet, including yogurt. I won't add

it back in until I have successfully reduced my inflammation.

However, I did just realize that a digestive enzyme (taken both as a

hedge against rogue disacharrides that slip in, as well as to help me

break down protein, etc. until my leaky gut has healed) actually

introduced 2 illegals that I had not had in my diet - Xylitol, and

Malitol. So, I'm now labeling these 2 introductions as the primary

suspects until proven otherwise. So, I'm not truly SCD-compliant

after all, and, I've swamped in some " lesser-experienced " illegals for

the common ones that my body had recently expected.

Still, I'd like to get a sense of what to expect to measure success,

so, I'd love anecdotes that describe the road to recovery (and not

just the end state).

Regarding your statement of becoming more sensitive to polysaccharides

that I eliminate - are you warning that once you've been on the SCD

diet, re-introducing some polysaccarides (at some point in the healed

future) may be more difficult? Thanks again for your help!

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > This question has everything to do with how to measure success or

> > failure early on with SCD. I'm immediately experiencing some changes

> > to my more recently developed pattern of Ulcerative Colitis (UC)

> > symptoms, and want to determine if it's expected, or a warning of

> > something new. Numerous answers are welcomed!

> >

> > Background:

> > I'm a big believer in the SCD diet, and therefore a recent convert.

> > I'm currently on day 4, but almost immediately on day 2, I began

> > experiencing a few UC symptoms that had been previously eliminated

> > with my anti-inflammatory medications (i.e. Asacol/mesalamine).

> > Symptoms include increased (but moderate) stomach pains, " lightning

> > strike " pains to my rectum (lasting a couple of seconds per

> > occurrence), and increased mucus being excreted.

>

> what are you eating? in particular did you start the yogurt? and if

> so, how much did you consume?

>

> Are there symptoms of improvement as well? Or other changes, good

> or bad?

>

>

> >

> >

> > I realize that people's experiences will likely vary per timetable and

> > actual results, but, I'm trying to determine a common expectation to

> > help me measure success versus new harm. (Btw, the latter statement

> > is not to discount the merits of SCD (which I believe makes sense, and

> > likely great for most if not all people), but don't want to ignore

> > that possibility that everyone runs the risk of responding differently

> > (and therefore, effective treatment needs to be individualized).

> >

> > Thanks so much - personally, I'm hopeful that I'm experiencing some

> > sort of bad bacteria die-off that feels awful, but is a temporary and

> > necessary path to recovery.

>

> It's possible - but depends on other factors concerning diet.

>

> Also, remember once you stop eating polysaccharides things that

> you could consume before without trouble, you will grow sensitive to

> now. And this can be true for advanced foods as well.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted you to know that even the most minute amount of xylitol

will give me major D for several days. The stuff is truly poison for

some of us ... well, at least for me.

At 06:01 PM 10/4/2008, you wrote:

>However, I did just realize that a digestive enzyme (taken both as a

>hedge against rogue disacharrides that slip in, as well as to help me

>break down protein, etc. until my leaky gut has healed) actually

>introduced 2 illegals that I had not had in my diet - Xylitol, and

>Malitol. So, I'm now labeling these 2 introductions as the primary

>suspects until proven otherwise. So, I'm not truly SCD-compliant

>after all, and, I've swamped in some " lesser-experienced " illegals for

>the common ones that my body had recently expected.

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks for the reply, Mara!

>

> I don't include any form or dairy yet, including yogurt. I won't add

> it back in until I have successfully reduced my inflammation.

>

> However, I did just realize that a digestive enzyme (taken both as a

> hedge against rogue disacharrides that slip in, as well as to help me

> break down protein, etc. until my leaky gut has healed) actually

> introduced 2 illegals that I had not had in my diet - Xylitol, and

> Malitol. So, I'm now labeling these 2 introductions as the primary

> suspects until proven otherwise. So, I'm not truly SCD-compliant

> after all, and, I've swamped in some " lesser-experienced " illegals for

> the common ones that my body had recently expected.

Well, everyone does that - it's annoying to realize, especially if

you've

just purchased a large and/or expensive sample of something the week

before you began the diet that that you realize soon after is illegal -

and you can't return it because you've been using it already - but

this phenomenon turns to be not at all unusual.

I'd say, in the early stages, one of the most helpful things you can

do for

yourself is to try to memorize as much as you can of the legal /illegal

list that is online.

> Still, I'd like to get a sense of what to expect to measure success,

> so, I'd love anecdotes that describe the road to recovery (and not

> just the end state).

I'd say if your bowel habits are changing then that's a measure that

the diet is beginning to work. A worsening of some symptoms is not

atypical - I certainly had those - whether because of an illegal I had

just

begun consuming before I began the diet and I thought was legal or

because I had too much yogurt too soon or yogurt that had been

fermented too long (as per instructions in the book - but those

particular

instructions were later revised.)

Read this on Pecanbread about beginning the diet. It will also give

you a list

of die-off symptoms, if you scroll towards the end. It's geared to

children, but

much of it applies to everyone.

http://www.pecanbread.com/new/begindiet1.html

> Regarding your statement of becoming more sensitive to polysaccharides

> that I eliminate - are you warning that once you've been on the SCD

> diet, re-introducing some polysaccarides (at some point in the healed

> future) may be more difficult? Thanks again for your help!

In the short term, yes.

In the long term, after complete healing has taken place - I gather it

works

out for some people and other people remain sensitive.

Mara