Guest guest Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hi Everyone! My 14 year-old daughter and I took a 2 week road-trip from Oklahoma to Southern California to visit family and see the beach. We're back now and I'm catching up on my e-mail. I'll be forwarding The Daily Dish to the list if it's noteworthy and interesting with it's published date. So if you see something that's a couple of weeks old, don't worry. FYI... my biggest discovery this trip was the Painted Desert & Petrified Forest outside Holbrook, Arizona. It's part of the U. S. National Parks (I think that's the correct title) and paying $10 to drive through the area (30 miles) is WELL WORTH it! The change of terrain in those 30 miles is incredible and awesome. If you drive I-40 through the area, be sure to look in the pastures for what looks like 'broken logs'. Those are petrified trees, which are now beautiful stones and are millions of years old. Donna Moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Welcome. It's nice to have you along. We learn a lot from sharing with each other as we feel comfortable doing. I think one of the important things to remember for me is eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Easier said than done for me especially since I am an emotional eater. It is so good to have a great group like this for support. Sandy I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Welcome T! Thought I'd feedback to you that I, and I suspect most others too, weren't comfortable with the prospect of weight gain as we started our IE journeys too. I'm sure I told myself the I would be the exception (yea right lol!) and that I'd 'get' IE in record time, ditching excess me at lightning speed. So much for thinking ;-) I soon found out that choosing my favorite (so called) 'bad' food of chocolate to legalize was so not going to accomplish that feat (shedding weight). But I have to say that while it sounds soooo easy to eat chocolate and chocolate and more chocolate until it FINALLY sinks in that chocolate isn't either special or the 'enemy', it also is the way I needed to prove that to myself. IE is a process. There isn't an exact road map for one's journey. Some dash off in one direction only to find they wished they had gone another way. A few lucky ones already really KNOW the direction that they want to go and stick to that path alone. Myself I think I have wandered, detoured back tracked and visited dark hallows and seen vistas from spectacular peaks as well as sat and moped now and then too. Yet I can say with 20-20 hindsight that I have appreciated my journey and what I have learned thus far. As for support - I found that jumping right in helped me most and to my surprise helped others too. This is a great a group as you and I can make it. Looking forward to reading more from you and hope you will send postcards from along your IE journey. Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. > > Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. > > T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 T, I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my " dumb " newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just " arrive " without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! Jane > > > > I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. > > > > Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. > > > > T > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 T, I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my " dumb " newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just " arrive " without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! Jane > > > > I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. > > > > Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. > > > > T > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Hello, T. I am also new at this, and it's scary. Lots to learn, but more importantly, lots to UNLEARN. Hang in there with us! > > I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. > > Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. > > T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hi, Sandy. I find it easier to gratify my hunger signals at home rather than now because we're on vacation, but I'm having a better time of it than I used to in the past. I'm learning to tell the group that I'm not hungry when I'm not hungry (we are 4 people) and sometimes we strive to make adjustments for each other's eating needs, but, as I said, it's much, much easier for me to honor myself when I'm at home and not needing to work into other people's schedules. Now if I know I'm eating a big lunch I will eat a small breakfast, but as I'm writing this I'm not sure that is right because I'm thinking I may be too hungry for lunch, however, since I've been on vacation it's simply hard for me to honor and obey (<g>) my hunger signals to the best degree. And I'm still learning. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:02 PMSubject: Re: Hello! Welcome. It's nice to have you along. We learn a lot from sharing with each other as we feel comfortable doing. I think one of the important things to remember for me is eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Easier said than done for me especially since I am an emotional eater. It is so good to have a great group like this for support. Sandy I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hi, Sandy. I find it easier to gratify my hunger signals at home rather than now because we're on vacation, but I'm having a better time of it than I used to in the past. I'm learning to tell the group that I'm not hungry when I'm not hungry (we are 4 people) and sometimes we strive to make adjustments for each other's eating needs, but, as I said, it's much, much easier for me to honor myself when I'm at home and not needing to work into other people's schedules. Now if I know I'm eating a big lunch I will eat a small breakfast, but as I'm writing this I'm not sure that is right because I'm thinking I may be too hungry for lunch, however, since I've been on vacation it's simply hard for me to honor and obey (<g>) my hunger signals to the best degree. And I'm still learning. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:02 PMSubject: Re: Hello! Welcome. It's nice to have you along. We learn a lot from sharing with each other as we feel comfortable doing. I think one of the important things to remember for me is eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Easier said than done for me especially since I am an emotional eater. It is so good to have a great group like this for support. Sandy I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hi, Sandy. I find it easier to gratify my hunger signals at home rather than now because we're on vacation, but I'm having a better time of it than I used to in the past. I'm learning to tell the group that I'm not hungry when I'm not hungry (we are 4 people) and sometimes we strive to make adjustments for each other's eating needs, but, as I said, it's much, much easier for me to honor myself when I'm at home and not needing to work into other people's schedules. Now if I know I'm eating a big lunch I will eat a small breakfast, but as I'm writing this I'm not sure that is right because I'm thinking I may be too hungry for lunch, however, since I've been on vacation it's simply hard for me to honor and obey (<g>) my hunger signals to the best degree. And I'm still learning. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 11:02 PMSubject: Re: Hello! Welcome. It's nice to have you along. We learn a lot from sharing with each other as we feel comfortable doing. I think one of the important things to remember for me is eat when I am hungry and stop when I am full. Easier said than done for me especially since I am an emotional eater. It is so good to have a great group like this for support. Sandy I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hello T, and welcome. No, you don't have to do this alone. It does help a great deal to have a support group. Good luck!NatTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 10:15:49 PMSubject: Hello! I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hello T, and welcome. No, you don't have to do this alone. It does help a great deal to have a support group. Good luck!NatTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 10:15:49 PMSubject: Hello! I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hello T, and welcome. No, you don't have to do this alone. It does help a great deal to have a support group. Good luck!NatTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 10:15:49 PMSubject: Hello! I thought I would oblige the request to introduce myself - I'm new to intuitive eating and have read a couple books so far in overcoming overeating. I am struggling with giving up the dieting, being comfortable gaining weight while learning how to do this, and how to deal with the outside world that thinks I'm wrong or that their diets work. Im hoping to find the support that is lacking here in my current environment on this website. I found that when quitting smoking support was essential, so I figure it must be the same with this new positive yet difficult change. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my " dumb " newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just " arrive " without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my " dumb " newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just " arrive " without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my " dumb " newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just " arrive " without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tai, didn't gross me out either. My grandson has had an awful time with this issue since he was very young. He is 5 now and still on medication which my daughter hates. But if she doesn't give it to him he will go 4 or 5 days or more without going and then it hurts he doesn't want to. Even when he was little this would happen and I know he doesn't even recognize the signals now. He has an older cousin who had this too until her parents said " no computer/tv " until you go. That worked for them. I have irritable bowel/spastic colon so I have had to learn what foods are ok for me. Nothing spicy. I guess I would say they are not really forbidden, just I don't like the results. Sandy OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Sandy, I can certainly understand your daughter's concern. However, my mother put me on suppositories when I was a little girl. She wanted to 'make sure' I went to the bathroom. I hated the suppository. I remember crying and begging her not to give it to me, and my dear mother listened to me. Although for the next several decades simply did not know or understand my body signals at all. I have found that when eating lots and lots of natural fiber (vegetables and fruit), and drink lots of water, I have far less trouble. I am now not frightened of waiting for DAYS if necessary, but I am finding my body finally "works." Yes, I have read medical experts say that some people's bodies can go for a few days without evacuating. Interestingly enough, when I swore off animal products for a few weeks, I went to the bathroom for the first time in my life two or three times a day! It was amazing, but I started eating animal products again and I'm back to my regular routine of going maybe every other day. Sometimes not even that, but I'm working with it. :-) TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: Re: Hello! Tai, didn't gross me out either. My grandson has had an awful time with this issue since he was very young. He is 5 now and still on medication which my daughter hates. But if she doesn't give it to him he will go 4 or 5 days or more without going and then it hurts he doesn't want to. Even when he was little this would happen and I know he doesn't even recognize the signals now. He has an older cousin who had this too until her parents said "no computer/tv" until you go. That worked for them. I have irritable bowel/spastic colon so I have had to learn what foods are ok for me. Nothing spicy. I guess I would say they are not really forbidden, just I don't like the results. Sandy OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Katcha, I am a size 2X - 3X right now. I have physical pain because I am overweight. Lately, I have decided to a great degree that I am beautiful. I know some do not consider me beautiful. But I'm beginning to realize that I am. I met a woman in the ladies' room today at the restaurant who was about my age, quite thin, but on a walker. I held the door open for her. She told me she had a hip replacement. She dressed more provocatively than I do even though she was on a walker. But I looked at her as if she were a person. A human being, one worthy of compassion and consideration and who deserves to be thought of as beautiful also. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:49 AMSubject: Re: Hello! Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my "dumb" newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just "arrive" without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Katcha, I am a size 2X - 3X right now. I have physical pain because I am overweight. Lately, I have decided to a great degree that I am beautiful. I know some do not consider me beautiful. But I'm beginning to realize that I am. I met a woman in the ladies' room today at the restaurant who was about my age, quite thin, but on a walker. I held the door open for her. She told me she had a hip replacement. She dressed more provocatively than I do even though she was on a walker. But I looked at her as if she were a person. A human being, one worthy of compassion and consideration and who deserves to be thought of as beautiful also. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:49 AMSubject: Re: Hello! Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my "dumb" newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just "arrive" without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2011 Report Share Posted August 3, 2011 Katcha, I am a size 2X - 3X right now. I have physical pain because I am overweight. Lately, I have decided to a great degree that I am beautiful. I know some do not consider me beautiful. But I'm beginning to realize that I am. I met a woman in the ladies' room today at the restaurant who was about my age, quite thin, but on a walker. I held the door open for her. She told me she had a hip replacement. She dressed more provocatively than I do even though she was on a walker. But I looked at her as if she were a person. A human being, one worthy of compassion and consideration and who deserves to be thought of as beautiful also. TaiTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:49 AMSubject: Re: Hello! Jane the abuse of our bodies STOPS here! :-) :-) There has been enough heaped upon our stoic structures by others, and ourselves, to not have that a part of this loving and wonderful healing process I've come to know as IE. Not only is such an imposition NOT 'allowed' here, the hope is that by courteous suggestion and gentle example and sharing members can embrace such a practice for themselves. Glad to hear that you are well on your way in this practice too. ehugs, Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > > T, > > I thought I'd let you know that when I joined this group, only a few days ago, I was a bit worried about sharing. I was afraid I'd get a lot of criticism. But instead, I found that people responded sensitively to my "dumb" newbie questions, understanding that this is a scary shift away from the diet thinking we have all been indoctrinated with, and as Katcha said, a journey. We can't just "arrive" without learning from our own detours along the way. For example, I've been shocked with how little food overfills me, and how long it takes to actually feel real hunger again. Welcome to the group! > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Hi Tai - great cure for your problem is a couple of kiwifruit - I'm not sure how expensive they are in the US - but they are well known for their effectiveness here (where I only paid $1 a kilo today!) Clare > > > >Â > >OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any > more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2011 Report Share Posted August 4, 2011 Tai, She has used the suppositories too but it was so hard and traumatic she stopped. He is beginning to understand his part in eating foods that help and drinking water. He is doing better. I remembered that when I was little I had to take metamucil(gritty then and in orange juice) and cod liver oil. I was strange in that I didn't mind the cod liver oil taste. I learned a long time ago what works for me by choosing what I eat that helps. Sandy Sandy, I can certainly understand your daughter's concern. However, my mother put me on suppositories when I was a little girl. She wanted to 'make sure' I went to the bathroom. I hated the suppository. I remember crying and begging her not to give it to me, and my dear mother listened to me. Although for the next several decades simply did not know or understand my body signals at all. I have found that when eating lots and lots of natural fiber (vegetables and fruit), and drink lots of water, I have far less trouble. I am now not frightened of waiting for DAYS if necessary, but I am finding my body finally " works. " Yes, I have read medical experts say that some people's bodies can go for a few days without evacuating. Interestingly enough, when I swore off animal products for a few weeks, I went to the bathroom for the first time in my life two or three times a day! It was amazing, but I started eating animal products again and I'm back to my regular routine of going maybe every other day. Sometimes not even that, but I'm working with it. :-) Tai To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 11:39 AMSubject: Re: Re: Hello! Tai, didn't gross me out either. My grandson has had an awful time with this issue since he was very young. He is 5 now and still on medication which my daughter hates. But if she doesn't give it to him he will go 4 or 5 days or more without going and then it hurts he doesn't want to. Even when he was little this would happen and I know he doesn't even recognize the signals now. He has an older cousin who had this too until her parents said " no computer/tv " until you go. That worked for them. I have irritable bowel/spastic colon so I have had to learn what foods are ok for me. Nothing spicy. I guess I would say they are not really forbidden, just I don't like the results. Sandy OK folks -- this might gross someone out so please be aware of this. I hope it does not gross anyone out but I thought it might be helpful for someone. Yes, there are amazing recognitions about our bodies' digestive processes when we pay attention to it. I have always had problems with constipation and often took various supplements (like bran, Metamucil, even an occasional laxative as I tend to try more natural remedies) to deal with it. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Since starting IE I have been learning to listen to my body signals, which I did not often do in the past. In fact, which I didn't do at all. When I feel the urge to move my bowels now, even feeling a fullness in the lower part of my colon, I go to the bathroom. Tonight I even made my companions wait while I went to the restaurant bathroom, something I never would have done in the past thinking I didn't want to keep others waiting for me. I don't wait and wait and wait any more. It's been an interesting experience, AND I've stopped taking supplements, yet my movements have generally been OK, even on vacation. I don't go every day and I've come to accept that as normal for me. But since IE, and stopping my supplements, I've actually become more regular. :-) Tai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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