Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 >but if you have a history of an >exacerbation after a previous vaccination No, but I do have a history (until last year) of getting the flu after a flu shot. Of course I was on Rebif too. In Ontario nearly everyone gets a free flu shot starting last year, (coincidentally (??)) the first year I did not get it. I did have the shot but maybe it was because everyone *else* had the shot. So this year maybe I will do without, since there seems to be less flu around. But there was definitely more SARS last year. We don't have a SARS shot yet. So take your antivirals (amantadine). -Sullivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 -- I refused to let my daughter be vaccinated for Hepatitis B before she went off to college after I read the insert about the preservatives they use in that vaccine. Cancer changed my life in so many way also...and I also have no more trust in western medicine. I won't take anything recommended by a health professional without researching it first. S. Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:30:06 -0400 From: Braun Doherty <BD@...> Subject: Re: Flu Shot ? I will never get the flu shot. A friend of mine with MS got one and had a bad attack immediately and went numb from the waist down. Remember. . ..there is mercury in that flu shot, so be careful if you decide to get one. I don't think they can make it without it, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. More shots are being made without it these days due to complications, but I think the flu shot has it only with mercury. By the way - I don't vaccinate my kids either, MS changed my life in so many ways. . . no more trust in western medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 Hello again, group, Time for me to weigh in again on this flu shot concern. The worries about mercury are certainly legitimate. Too much of any metal is not good, but mercury is particularly bad. I've been going to a pair of homeopathic practitioners off and on for over six years now. Every time I start back, they do a meridian stress test and start me on a detox program. When I was a teen, I worked with a crew of men every summer fixing up schools. We painted [with lead-based paint] and sprayed pesticides and weed killers and, you name it. Before I started homeopathy, my body was a toxic waste site. Metals, pesticides, chlorine, chemicals - you name it. It's a wonder I didn't glow in the dark. Maybe I did. Anyway, all this junk stores away in the cells and jumps up to bite you in the ass as you get older. But my point is this - any and all of this stuff can be detoxed out of your body. It isn't a walk in the park, but it's doable. Mercury included. Last thought: my wife and I purchased a Rife Resonator last year but have not developed the discipline yet to use it religiously. Anyone familiar with this product or have any experience with it? -Al "The grass always looks greener on the other side, but a lot of the time it's Astro-turf."From: [mailto: ebaker@...]low dose naltrexone Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 07:43:15 -0400Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot--I refused to let my daughter be vaccinated for Hepatitis B before shewent off to college after I read the insert about the preservatives theyuse in that vaccine.Cancer changed my life in so many way also...and I also have no moretrust in western medicine. I won't take anything recommended by ahealth professional without researching it first. S.Message: 4Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:30:06 -0400From: Braun Doherty Subject: Re: Flu Shot ?I will never get the flu shot. A friend of mine with MS got one and hada bad attack immediately and went numb from the waist down. Remember. ..there is mercury in that flu shot, so be careful if you decide to getone. I don't think they can make it without it, but it wouldn't hurt toask. More shots are being made without it these days due tocomplications, but I think the flu shot has it only with mercury. Bythe way - I don't vaccinate my kids either, MS changed my life in somany ways. . . no more trust in western medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000, wrote: >Hello all. >I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had >a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year >(so far). Any thoughts?? >Thank you > > IMO, you might as well toss a coin! The shots are 'tuned' to catch the most likely strains but they often produce adverse reactions. I don't bother getting a shot but I've always been a bit of a risk taker. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need to get sick! Original Message: ----------------- From: msomeomi cadden263@... Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot <html><body> <tt> Hello all. <BR> I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> Thank you<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=e groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.co m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250A.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hi All, I just heard, on the news last night, that there is a flu virus out there right now. In some areas it has reached epidemic status....not in Ohio yet, thank God. They also stated that this years flu shot will probably not guard against this particular Virus. So, If you don't get a flu shot or even if you do....take your anti- virals (Amantadine) Good Luck, Sally --- In low dose naltrexone , " david@b... " <david@b...> wrote: > > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need > to get sick! > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: msomeomi cadden263@a... > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 > low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Hello all. <BR> > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> > (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> > Thank you<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> > Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> > <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=- 2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a > href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261 774/D=e > groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.net flix.co > m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img > src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250 A.gif " > alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> > </td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 > src= " http://us.adserver./l? M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 I heard about one death so far - a child. From: Sally [mailto:salpal@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:36 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot Hi All,I just heard, on the news last night, that there is a flu virus out there right now. In some areas it has reached epidemic status....not in Ohio yet, thank God. They also stated that this years flu shot will probably not guard against this particular Virus.So, If you don't get a flu shot or even if you do....take your anti-virals (Amantadine)Good Luck, Sally> > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need> to get sick!> > Original Message:> -----------------> From: msomeomi cadden263@a...> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot> > > <html><body>> > > <tt>> Hello all. <BR>> I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR>> a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR>> (so far). Any thoughts??<BR>> Thank you<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> </tt>> > <br>> > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->> > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>> <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b>> Sponsor</b></font></td>> </tr>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF>> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a> href="http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=e> groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.co> m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732" alt=""><img> src=" "> alt="click here" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td></tr></table>> </td>> </tr>> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1> src="http://us.adserver./l?M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou> pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395"></td></tr>> </table>> > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->> > > <br>> <tt>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 From the information that I've been hearing and reading, the flu that is here now is a more virulent and different strain than the forms that the flu shots are for. One thing I strongly recommend is to get a pneumonia shot because most people with the flu appear to die from pneumonia. I, also, keep a couple of bottles of Sambucol in the refrigerator at all times and 3% hydrogen peroxide to put drops in my ears to kill bacteria and germs that may be entering my body thru the ear canal. In addition, if I get the flu, I will demand to be given 10 grams of Ascorbic Acid every twelve hours by IV. If congestion begins, I will get hydrogen peroxide IV's to clear the fluid and congestion from the lungs. Now, a number of you are thinking, " What kind of a nutcase is this guy? " Right? Well, that's alright because I have a thick skin and it's my life. AND, in spite of the " all-knowing specialists " , I take LDN! Noland ----- Original Message ----- From: <david@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need to get sick! Original Message: ----------------- From: msomeomi cadden263@... Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot <html><body> <tt> Hello all. <BR> I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> Thank you<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=e groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.co m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250A.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 One of those states is Colorado. The flu epidemic is on the other side(east slope) of the Rocky Mountains from me. I'm hoping it doesn't get over the mountains to this side. Real optimist!! Right?? Noland ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sally " <salpal@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot Hi All, I just heard, on the news last night, that there is a flu virus out there right now. In some areas it has reached epidemic status....not in Ohio yet, thank God. They also stated that this years flu shot will probably not guard against this particular Virus. So, If you don't get a flu shot or even if you do....take your anti- virals (Amantadine) Good Luck, Sally --- In low dose naltrexone , " david@b... " <david@b...> wrote: > > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need > to get sick! > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: msomeomi cadden263@a... > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 > low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Hello all. <BR> > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> > (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> > Thank you<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> > Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> > <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=- 2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a > href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261 774/D=e > groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.net flix.co > m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img > src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250 A.gif " > alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> > </td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 > src= " http://us.adserver./l? M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 There have been several on the east slope of the Rockies in Colorado. Noland ----- Original Message ----- From: CK Connie King (1452) low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:49 AM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot I heard about one death so far - a child. From: Sally [mailto:salpal@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:36 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot Hi All,I just heard, on the news last night, that there is a flu virus out there right now. In some areas it has reached epidemic status....not in Ohio yet, thank God. They also stated that this years flu shot will probably not guard against this particular Virus.So, If you don't get a flu shot or even if you do....take your anti-virals (Amantadine)Good Luck, Sally> > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need> to get sick!> > Original Message:> -----------------> From: msomeomi cadden263@a...> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot> > > <html><body>> > > <tt>> Hello all. <BR>> I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR>> a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR>> (so far). Any thoughts??<BR>> Thank you<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> </tt>> > <br>> > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->> > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>> <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b>> Sponsor</b></font></td>> </tr>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF>> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a> href="http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=e> groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.co> m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732" alt=""><img> src=" "> alt="click here" width="300" height="250" border="0"></a></td></tr></table>> </td>> </tr>> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1> src="http://us.adserver./l?M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou> pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395"></td></tr>> </table>> > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->> > > <br>> <tt>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 I get the flu shot every year. Never have any reaction to it. My husband who is healthy doesn’t get it and ends up sick as a dog from the flu every year. Last year he developed pneumonia and was out of work for 3 weeks. This year I made him go with me for my flu shot and had him get his too. So :-P he had no choice lol son Owner/ operator Friends with MS.com -----Original Message----- From: david@... [mailto:david@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:55 AM To: low dose naltrexone Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need to get sick! Original Message: ----------------- From: msomeomi cadden263@... Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot <html><body> <tt> Hello all. <BR> I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> Thank you<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=e groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.co m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250A.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> </td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hi Nutcase...lol. How often do you get a pneumonia shot.....I got one about 4 yrs ago? What is Sambucol, please? Thanks, Sally > From the information that I've been hearing and reading, the flu that is > here now is a more virulent and different strain than the forms that the flu > shots are for. > > One thing I strongly recommend is to get a pneumonia shot because most > people with the flu appear to die from pneumonia. I, also, keep a couple of > bottles of Sambucol in the refrigerator at all times and 3% hydrogen > peroxide to put drops in my ears to kill bacteria and germs that may be > entering my body thru the ear canal. > > In addition, if I get the flu, I will demand to be given 10 grams of > Ascorbic Acid every twelve hours by IV. If congestion begins, I will get > hydrogen peroxide IV's to clear the fluid and congestion from the lungs. > > Now, a number of you are thinking, " What kind of a nutcase is this guy? " > Right? Well, that's alright because I have a thick skin and it's my life. > AND, in spite of the " all-knowing specialists " , I take LDN! > > Noland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <david@b...> > <low dose naltrexone > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:54 AM > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I don't need > to get sick! > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: msomeomi cadden263@a... > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 > low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > Hello all. <BR> > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had <BR> > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year <BR> > (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> > Thank you<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> > Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> > <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=- 2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a > href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261 774/D=e > groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.net flix.co > m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img > src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250 A.gif " > alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> > </td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 > src= " http://us.adserver./l? M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Great tip Noland, Where can I get Sambucol ? Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Good morning, Sally: When I got my pneumonia shot a couple years ago it was supposed to be good for five years. Then, after five years I am to get a booster. Sambucol is black elderberry extract taken from the black elder that grows only in one place in Europe. The real Sambucol is manufactured/processed in Israel. In accordance with my reading, it was discovered a few years ago when Israel was having a flu epidemic and ran out of the normal allopathic medicines being used to treat flu patients. In a fit of desperation, some Doctor tried this black elderberry extract and found that it went to knocking the flu within 24-72 hours. You can find a multitude of information on it by typing " Sambucol " into your PC search engine. I used the Sambucol when I started developing flu symptoms about 4 years ago and was feeling great within 24 hrs after taking the first dose. Since I have chronic lymphocytic leukemia, I keep Sambucol in the refrigerator at all times because flu is an especially high hazard due to my weakened immune system. The Nutcase ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sally " <salpal@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot > Hi Nutcase...lol. How often do you get a pneumonia shot.....I got > one about 4 yrs ago? What is Sambucol, please? > > Thanks, Sally > > > > From the information that I've been hearing and reading, the flu > that is > > here now is a more virulent and different strain than the forms > that the flu > > shots are for. > > > > One thing I strongly recommend is to get a pneumonia shot because > most > > people with the flu appear to die from pneumonia. I, also, keep a > couple of > > bottles of Sambucol in the refrigerator at all times and 3% > hydrogen > > peroxide to put drops in my ears to kill bacteria and germs that > may be > > entering my body thru the ear canal. > > > > In addition, if I get the flu, I will demand to be given 10 grams > of > > Ascorbic Acid every twelve hours by IV. If congestion begins, I > will get > > hydrogen peroxide IV's to clear the fluid and congestion from the > lungs. > > > > Now, a number of you are thinking, " What kind of a nutcase is this > guy? " > > Right? Well, that's alright because I have a thick skin and it's > my life. > > AND, in spite of the " all-knowing specialists " , I take LDN! > > > > Noland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <david@b...> > > <low dose naltrexone > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:54 AM > > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > > > > > > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I > don't need > > to get sick! > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: msomeomi cadden263@a... > > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000 > > low dose naltrexone > > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > > > > > > <html><body> > > > > > > <tt> > > Hello all. <BR> > > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I > had <BR> > > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year > <BR> > > (so far). Any thoughts??<BR> > > Thank you<BR> > > <BR> > > <BR> > > </tt> > > > > <br> > > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> > > Sponsor</b></font></td> > > </tr> > > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 > cellspacing=0> > > <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=- > 2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a > > > href= " http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261 > 774/D=e > > > groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.net > flix.co > > m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732 " alt= " " ><img > > > src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250 > A.gif " > > alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " > border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> > > </td> > > </tr> > > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 > > src= " http://us.adserver./l? > M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou > > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395 " ></td></tr> > > </table> > > > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > > > > <br> > > <tt> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Good morning, Kiki: Most likely at your local Health Food store. I get mine most of the time from http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ when I order a large supply of vitamins. Noland ----- Original Message ----- From: NoClue915@... rangeus50@... Cc: low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot Great tip Noland, Where can I get Sambucol ? Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Thanks Noland (nutcase..lol) I just ordered Natures Way losenges (I think) Thought they would beeasier to take...and while ordering...got some B-complex as well. Hey! I want to be well armed this winter, since I am not getting the flu shot. From on nutcase to another...lol Cheers, Sally ----- Original Message ----- From: Noland R. Durnell, P.E. low dose naltrexone ; Sally Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot Good morning, Sally:When I got my pneumonia shot a couple years ago it was supposed to be goodfor five years. Then, after five years I am to get a booster.Sambucol is black elderberry extract taken from the black elder that growsonly in one place in Europe. The real Sambucol is manufactured/processed inIsrael. In accordance with my reading, it was discovered a few years agowhen Israel was having a flu epidemic and ran out of the normal allopathicmedicines being used to treat flu patients. In a fit of desperation, someDoctor tried this black elderberry extract and found that it went toknocking the flu within 24-72 hours. You can find a multitude ofinformation on it by typing "Sambucol" into your PC search engine.I used the Sambucol when I started developing flu symptoms about 4 years agoand was feeling great within 24 hrs after taking the first dose. Since Ihave chronic lymphocytic leukemia, I keep Sambucol in the refrigerator atall times because flu is an especially high hazard due to my weakened immunesystem.The Nutcase----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally" <salpal@...><low dose naltrexone >Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:43 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot> Hi Nutcase...lol. How often do you get a pneumonia shot.....I got> one about 4 yrs ago? What is Sambucol, please?>> Thanks, Sally>> > > From the information that I've been hearing and reading, the flu> that is> > here now is a more virulent and different strain than the forms> that the flu> > shots are for.> >> > One thing I strongly recommend is to get a pneumonia shot because> most> > people with the flu appear to die from pneumonia. I, also, keep a> couple of> > bottles of Sambucol in the refrigerator at all times and 3%> hydrogen> > peroxide to put drops in my ears to kill bacteria and germs that> may be> > entering my body thru the ear canal.> >> > In addition, if I get the flu, I will demand to be given 10 grams> of> > Ascorbic Acid every twelve hours by IV. If congestion begins, I> will get> > hydrogen peroxide IV's to clear the fluid and congestion from the> lungs.> >> > Now, a number of you are thinking, "What kind of a nutcase is this> guy?"> > Right? Well, that's alright because I have a thick skin and it's> my life.> > AND, in spite of the "all-knowing specialists", I take LDN!> >> > Noland> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <david@b...>> > <low dose naltrexone >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:54 AM> > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot> >> >> >> > I had a flu shot last year and this year too. so far so good. I> don't need> > to get sick!> >> > Original Message:> > -----------------> > From: msomeomi cadden263@a...> > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:38:17 -0000> > low dose naltrexone > > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot> >> >> > <html><body>> >> >> > <tt>> > Hello all. <BR>> > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I> had <BR>> > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year> <BR>> > (so far). Any thoughts??<BR>> > Thank you<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > </tt>> >> > <br>> >> > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->> >> > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>> > <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b>> > Sponsor</b></font></td>> > </tr>> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF>> > <td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0> cellspacing=0>> > <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-> 2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a> >> href="http://rd./SIG=12cf7e5sm/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261> 774/D=e> >> groupweb/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1070545109/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.net> flix.co> > m/Default?mqso=60178338 & partid=4116732" alt=""><img> >> src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ne/netflix/yhoo1103_a_300250> A.gif"> > alt="click here" width="300" height="250"> border="0"></a></td></tr></table>> > </td>> > </tr>> > <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1> > src="http://us.adserver./l?> M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egrou> > pmail/S=:HM/A=1853618/rand=959409395"></td></tr>> > </table>> >> > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->> >> >> > <br>> > <tt>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Boy are you right Noland, I just ordered Natures Way Sambucol someplace else and paid 8.50 per bottle (4oz) and your place is 6.50 per 4 oz.....and I thought 8.50 was a good buy....I should have asked you first...lol Sally > Good morning, Kiki: > > Most likely at your local Health Food store. I get mine most of the time from http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ when I order a large supply of vitamins. > > Noland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: NoClue915@a... > rangeus50@m... > Cc: low dose naltrexone > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shot > > > Great tip Noland, > > Where can I get Sambucol ? Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Sambucol and just about every other supplement mentioned here for as long as I have been watching this board is available at www.thevitaminshoppe.com. I buy most of my supplements online from them. Prices are good. They give you bonus points with every purchase that accumulate throughout the year, resulting in a gift certificate at the end of the year. If you have children or grandchildren and particiate in the U Promise savings plan online - which I do for my grandchildren - the vitamin shoppe pays 5% of what you purchase to your account. I recommend them highly. -AlFrom: Noland R. Durnell, P.E. [mailto: rangeus50@...]NoClue915@...Cc: low dose naltrexone Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 10:16:59 -0700Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shotGood morning, Kiki: Most likely at your local Health Food store. I get mine most of the time from http://www.swansonvitamins.com/ when I order a large supply of vitamins. Noland----- Original Message ----- From: NoClue915@... rangeus50@... Cc: low dose naltrexone Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:47 AMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flu shotGreat tip Noland, Where can I get Sambucol ? Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I got the flu shot about a month ago and never had a problem. I'd rather be safe than sorry. The flu can do a number on you. Good Luck Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: " msomeomi " <cadden263@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flu shot > Hello all. > I am wondering how everyone feels about getting a 'flu shot'. I had > a bad reaction last year and am reluctant to ask for one this year > (so far). Any thoughts?? > Thank you > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I am happy to report that I am scheduled for a flu shot Monday night! There is more supply now so I would recommend anyone who wants it should call there doctor again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 Sorry, forgot to mention... The flu shot is made with a DEAD virus. You WILL NOT get sick from it. It is however incubated (grown) in an egg. SO, if you are allergic to eggs you are NOT allowed to take it. Pregnancy used to be a contraindication (reason not to take it) but if you are pregnant and have asthma or any other chronic disease physicians are giving them to protect you and the baby. Some obstetricians still feel that pregnant women should not taking anything during pregnancy so be sure to ask your personal obstetrician about it. The only other reason you can not take the flu shot is if you have had a recent viral illness. So, be sure to be well for atleast 2 weeks and ALWAYS ask you physician before you put anything foreign into your body. Be safe & have a healthier New Year! Pat --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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