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Wow --

I do love these types of free floating discussion and especially enjoy the

ones where people disagree and debate! For me, that's the way I learn.

A general reply to several issues: yes, there is a medical reason NOT to

use synthetic hormone; many of us don't convert T4 to T3 and this can cause

quite serious problems that armour does seem to prevent. I believe that I

fall into this camp.

I think Red summed up my concern -- that animals are treated cruelly,

chained and starved, etc. and then killed for me to have their thyroid

hormone. I must admit that I DON " T feel better knowing that armour comes

from armour hot dogs. I can't imagine a huge company treats pigs humanely

and I wonder how much antibiotics and other garbage has been pumped into

those poor pigs (and me?). I don't eat that stuff, but can take the armour?

Jody, I will call that number.

Ethically, I agree with the people who've pointed out that we make choices

that harm and kill other creatures all the time: we swat that mosquito, eat

meat, put pesticides on our yards, trap mice, wear leather, etc. (not all

of us, but a good amount, I imagine). For me, I need to think hard about

each of these choices, whether it's to swat that mosquito to death or to

take armour. I think the stakes at hand matter, too -- the quality of human

life outweighs a lot and I don' t meant commercialism/consumption quality,

but rather one's abiltiy to live as long and healthily as we can.

Anyway, I enjoyed the thread, and as always, this clarified my thinking.

I'll let everyone know what the armour folks say about mad cow disease and

antibiotics!

B

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> ,

> I believe that Armour Thyroid is a by-product of all the pork products

> supplied by the Armour Company -- Armour Bacon, Armour Ham, etc., so there

> should be no extra risk of disease than if you were eating these products.

> It is from a natural source, at least, and many swear that it is more

> effective for them than synthetic products, which include most of the

> standard thyroid replacements.

>

> If you are a vegetarian, you may have an ethical objection.

>

> And a note from your friendly, " neighborhood " farmer: Not all meat

animals

> are treated cruelly. If we get into that discussion on this list, we will

> get woefully off track.

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Hi Jody,

Don't stress yourself out trying to find that site. I don't even have kids at

this point. By the time I have a school-aged child, vaccines could be a thing

of the past. I am interested in any urls you have on the subject. I'll e-mail

you off the list soon.

Tori

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Although they are generally banned from attending during an outbreak of

the disease. Not that that happens much, but it is important to check

on.

-- in Fla.

luckystrike928 wrote:

>

> Hi Tori,

> Yes, once the exemption is in, they are fully allowed to attend public

>

> schools without vaccines. I will try to find the site that lists most

>

> states exemptions laws for you. If I don't locate it tomorrow, it

> will be after I come back on the 6th...though I will try hard.

>

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One decision I won't wast a second thinking about: swatting

mosquitoes! We not only have them in droves, we are increasingly having

problems with mosquito-bourne disease. I'd rather prevent them in the

first place, but whatever it takes...

-- in Fla.

>

> Ethically, I agree with the people who've pointed out that we make

> choices

> that harm and kill other creatures all the time: we swat that

> mosquito, eat

> meat, put pesticides on our yards, trap mice, wear leather, etc. (not

> all

> of us, but a good amount, I imagine). For me, I need to think hard

> about

> each of these choices, whether it's to swat that mosquito to death or

> to

> take armour. I think the stakes at hand matter, too -- the quality of

> human

> life outweighs a lot and I don' t meant commercialism/consumption

> quality,

> but rather one's abiltiy to live as long and healthily as we can.

>

> Anyway, I enjoyed the thread, and as always, this clarified my

> thinking.

>

> I'll let everyone know what the armour folks say about mad cow disease

> and

> antibiotics!

>

> B

>

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