Re: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

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Just wanna chime in, I also feel a whole lot better on a whole lot more HC. I feel something in my body just gobbles it up every hour. I feel like I'm feeding some kind of pet inside my tummy, I throw it a fish and it gobbles up the fish immediately. Within an hour it comes asking for more...

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 10:58:04 AMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Hi Kathleen!It does sound very similar. I do have EBV because I have had mono as a child. A lot of my autoimmune symptoms were triggered by a horrible virus 15 years ago, too. I take acyclovir, but I don't know if it does any good. Why are you going down on the thyroid and HC? What are you going to do to help the EBV? Do you feel worse after having gone down on all of that stuff?Did you get a blood test?I definitely feel like there is something going on that gobbles up all of my HC. I don't feel fluish necessarily when I go down, I just get higher heart rates and I get weak and pale. I start losing weight, too (I like that part, actually :-), but its not worth it! ). When I go up on the HC I feel much stronger, am able to exercise, etc.Why does Dr Holtorf no want you to stay on the HC? I know this is a weird thought, but would n't the HC help you get past the virus, eventually? Maybe people with viral issues just need

more?ThanksLiz

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You get high heart rate on less hc or on more hc? I will check my pulse as well, I only know my basal is 60-64.

This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 11:34:35 AMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Hi MiriamI think I saw a post of yours on the adrenal board and replied, then posted something about this- it does sound like a similar issue. I wish I could figure out why some of us need so much HC. Mostly I am trying to figure out if it is okay and if we should simply take the higher amounts as long as we don't get high cortisol symptoms. I am trying to "trust my body", but at the same time I worry because I need so much, ya know what I mean? I just hate having the high heart rate, especially. I get the shakes, too (I noticed you get those on your other post)Liz

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>This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I

woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are

adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that.

Shakes can be hypoglycemia (caused by low cortisol) as well

Nick

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yes I am thinking the shakes is the adrenaline, so i'm trying to figure this out: when adrenals have no reserves of cortisol it pumps out adrenaline? So feeding my adrenals more hc would eliminate the adrenaline pumping?

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:16:30 PMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Yes, but the shakes in hypoglycemia is from the adrenaline release, I believe. ;-)Kathleen> > >This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that. > > Shakes can be hypoglycemia (caused by low cortisol) as well> > Nick>

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Getting dizzy trying to figure this out here.....

Just did a blood pressure check, cuz felt shaky, hand tremors, etc. I have eaten a protein/fat/veggie meal 30 minutes ago. I had 10 mg hc two hours ago. BP is now 101 over 59 and pulse is 72.

I am baffled by the low BP.

Any insight?

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:16:30 PMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Yes, but the shakes in hypoglycemia is from the adrenaline release, I believe. ;-)Kathleen> > >This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that. > > Shakes can be hypoglycemia (caused by low cortisol) as well> > Nick>

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Just checked blood glucose and it is fine: 107, this is half hour after eating a small protein/veggie/fat meal.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:16:30 PMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Yes, but the shakes in hypoglycemia is from the adrenaline release, I believe. ;-)Kathleen> > >This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that. > > Shakes can be hypoglycemia (caused by low cortisol) as well> > Nick>

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"At the time, I had to stop t3 to get off the HC because my body needed so much HC it couldn't tolerate the t3 without taking 50 to 70 mg HC every day"

You stopped t3 entirely? were you on any other thyroid hormone such as t4 or dessicated thyroid hormone?

How much t3 were you on? I'm on real low dose I fear getting off it entirely. In my case, I am thyroidless as well, so the only source of thyroid hormone is whatever I take by mouth.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:21:18 PMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Yes, taking tons of HC will make you feel better, at least for a while. But I think it's better to find out WHY you need so much HC. Val really emphasized to me to get down to 40 or less HC. She sounded pretty serious about it. I don't know how much you take. At the time, I had to stop t3 to get off the HC because my body needed so much HC it couldn't tolerate the t3 without taking 50 to 70 mg HC every day. Not good! After I started treating other underlying issues affecting my adrenals, I wss able to restart t3 and not need escalating doses of HC. In fact, I seem to need even less HC now.BTW, I also had dysbiosis of the gut -- or bad bacteria overgrowth. I got rid of it with LOTS of garlic and probiotics. I am not sure if this was causing adrenal stress, too, but it likely was.Kathleen>> Just wanna chime in, I also feel a whole lot better on a whole lot more HC. I feel something in my body just gobbles it up every hour. I feel like I'm feeding some kind of pet inside my tummy, I throw it a fish and it gobbles up the fish immediately. Within an hour it comes asking for more....>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 10:58:04 AM> Subject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods> >  > > Hi Kathleen!> It does sound very similar. I do have EBV because I have had

mono as a child. A lot of my autoimmune symptoms were triggered by a horrible virus 15 years ago, too. I take acyclovir, but I don't know if it does any good. > Why are you going down on the thyroid and HC? What are you going to do to help the EBV? Do you feel worse after having gone down on all of that stuff?> Did you get a blood test?> I definitely feel like there is something going on that gobbles up all of my HC.. I don't feel fluish necessarily when I go down, I just get higher heart rates and I get weak and pale. I start losing weight, too (I like that part, actually :-), but its not worth it! ). When I go up on the HC I feel much stronger, am able to exercise, etc.> Why does Dr Holtorf no want you to stay on the HC? I know this is a weird thought, but would n't the HC help you get past the virus, eventually? Maybe people with viral issues just need more?> Thanks>

Liz>

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I do drink salt-water all day long, and I am on fludrocortisone as well.

I am inclined to believe the low cortisol is causing the adrenaline to be pumped out.

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 3:53:06 PMSubject: Re: stress dosing HC for extended periods

Have you tried salt? Maybe the shakes are from low sodium. I think if one is not having good results on high doses of HC, we are supposed to try salt and aldosterone if needed.About the adrenaline, yes, if cortisol is low, you will pump out adrenaline. > > > > >This night I took hc in middle of the night and this morn was the first morn I woke up without the shakes. I am theorizing that the shakes are adrenaline-related. Just don't know how to confirm that. > > > > Shakes can be hypoglycemia (caused by low cortisol) as well> > > > Nick>

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