Re: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes..)

[Guest guest]

20 mcg T3

25 mg HC

Vitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc,

Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample

in 5 days.

(Selenium shoiudl be STOPPED when trying ot remove RT3)

(ZINC lowers coritos and you shoudlnot be takign it)

1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho)

unraffined raw " grey " sea salt in it

1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water

1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it

1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized) HIGH CARB

1 glass of organic rice milk HIGH CARB

1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil

1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on

salads)

1/2-1 cucumber

2 organic apples HIGH CARB

1/2 organic banana HIGH CARB

1 kiwi HIGH CARB

1/2 red pepper

1 organic carrot

1-2 cellery sticks

2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad

1 extra well done steak (normal size)

1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)

6 organic eggs

5-15 small cubes of feta cheese

10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese

5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake -

can be too much!)

30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)

1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this

bowl of pure oats!) HIGH CARB

1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea

spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it

1 Sushi Maki roll piece

1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)

Do oyu see all the HIGH CARB foods oyu are eating? THIS is most likely

to be at least part of your symptoms. You are also not gettign enough

protein and good fats. WHen you cook meat well, you are cooking most of

the fats out and much of the good healthy enzymes. If I ate like this

ther is no amount of inuslin that woudl controil my glucose. The rest is

all healthy foods but controllign carbs is essential wiht weak adrenals.

--

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

I will talk to my specialist about selenium and zinc. She is an orthomolecular practitioner,and I was given these supplements for a reason, I'm sure. Like, combined they are goodtogether. I do understand why selenium would be bad for rT3, and why zinc is bad forHC. But she gave me Zinc and HC at the same time, so.... Makes me confused now!No, I don't see all the carbs I am eating. I do see it in that once cheeseburger and inthat maki piece. But other than that, there is no high carb foods in my diet???The fruit? Should I avboid ALL fruit? As well as all rice milk and all fruit juices?I know that the pure oats is carbs. But it's not the worst carbs, like sugar is?In the adrenal fatigue book I have it says that I should get some unrafined carbs insome of my meals. Not cut carbs entirely.With no fruit juices, iron

absorbtion would be worse, and.. I go nuts only drinking waterand salted water all the time! Any ideas, tips, is highly appreciated, Val!Go ahead and change my diet if you want to!Forgot to say I cook my steaks in real butter. Which should be a good thing, I've learned.I hate medium or even rare steaks. I can't eat bloody dripping meat! What do yousuggest here?And why aren't I getting enough protein (I only eat eggs and meat, ever meal!!!) andgood fats? I thought the real butter was good fat, as well as the olive oil in things, andthe spoon of coconut oil I am taking every day? + all the nuts??Right now I feel worse than ever, so any correction to things I'm doing wrong is.. Good!T.20 mcg

T3

25 mg HC

Vitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc,

Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample

in 5 days.

(Selenium shoiudl be STOPPED when trying ot remove RT3)

(ZINC lowers coritos and you shoudlnot be takign it)

1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho)

unraffined raw "grey" sea salt in it

1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water

1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it

1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized) HIGH CARB

1 glass of organic rice milk HIGH CARB

1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil

1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on

salads)

1/2-1 cucumber

2 organic apples HIGH CARB

1/2 organic banana HIGH CARB

1 kiwi HIGH CARB

1/2 red pepper

1 organic carrot

1-2 cellery sticks

2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad

1 extra well done steak (normal size)

1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)

6 organic eggs

5-15 small cubes of feta cheese

10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese

5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake -

can be too much!)

30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)

1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this

bowl of pure oats!) HIGH CARB

1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea

spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it

1 Sushi Maki roll piece

1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)

Do oyu see all the HIGH CARB foods oyu are eating? THIS is most likely

to be at least part of your symptoms. You are also not gettign enough

protein and good fats. WHen you cook meat well, you are cooking most of

the fats out and much of the good healthy enzymes. If I ate like this

ther is no amount of inuslin that woudl controil my glucose. The rest is

all healthy foods but controllign carbs is essential wiht weak adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Ieat one SMALL serving of fruit about 2-3 times a week and it is

mandarin oranges wiht no sugar added. One apple 2-3 times a week woudl

be fine, rice, oats and breads I do nto touch. I go through about a

dozen eggs a week and 1-2 pounds of meat daily. Cheeses and lots of them

are great, if oyu have no diary sensitivities cottage cheese and yogurts

are wonderful. Vegetables can be increased, and yeah the burger shoudl

go. Salads shoudl have not only veggies but meats and cheese and eggs as

well. Olives are great. Fish is good too if you cn eat it, I am very

limited in fish I can eat. Here is a sample day for me

Coffee with cream and no carb sweetener

2 mozarella cheese sticks for breakfast

coffee again

lunch 6oz low carb yogurt

6oz mandarin oranges or 6oz full fat cottage cheese

16 ounces water wiht sea salt

snack lettuce wiht low carb dressing and sliced tomatoes

dinner

Coffee with cream & no crb sweetener

1 pound meat (usually steak or burger)

1 cup veggies usually carrots or well cooked broccoli or cauliflower

Dessert which is peanut butter and celery or sugar free whipped cream

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

[Guest guest]

I just want to point out that maltodextrin is just another form of MSG. So if you have added that recently that could affect how you feel. I can't use any form of MSG as it gives me palpitations, anxiety, etc...

Terri

From: Gibcast

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:25 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes..)

Here's my daily diet! Considering I need a balanced diet with enough fiber, right amount of potassium, etc. This is everything I put into my mouth, every day, with some variations toit if I eat at a restaurant or something, but that's not all too often. I will try to put down theaverage of every week into one day!Every day, I eat and drink something like this:20 mcg T325 mg HCVitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample in 5 days.1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho) unraffined raw "grey" sea salt in it1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized)1 glass of organic rice milk1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on salads)1/2-1 cucumber2 organic apples1/2 organic banana1 kiwi1/2 red pepper1 organic carrot1-2 cellery sticks2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad1 extra well done steak (normal size)1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)6 organic eggs5-15 small cubes of feta cheese10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake - can be too much!)30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this bowl of pure oats!)1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it1 Sushi Maki roll piece1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)+ I salt every meal with sea salt.And that's pretty much it! I feel I eat quite healthy. But I also feel I need more variation,and I have the feeling that I am missing something. Guess I would've gotten more ironif I ate gluten-foods such as bread, regular cereals etc. One thing is for sure: I am sickof eating the same things every day. I miss feeling free and just eat whatever I want to,without worrying about gluten, high carb, sugar, chocolate etc. etc. It's just.. HARD!!!I also get MAJOR GUILT when I eat anything with obvious carbs, such as sushi, acheeseburger etc. Should I? Or can I allow myself eating some carbs every now and then?Sometimes I just feel that this diet is off balance. Healthy, summed up. But off balancesomehow? Maybe it's just me.

[Guest guest]

WHAT?????????How can maltodextrin be MSG? MSG is a taste enhancer. Maltodextrin from corn is just.. The sugar from corn right? How can they put maltodextrin in stevia poweder if Maltodextrin is poison??? :oSoon I'll have nothing to eat and drink. Is there any sweetener that is actually SAFE to use? I want sweetness to my tea.Thanks for bringing this up!!!!!Subject: Re: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes..)To: RT3_T3 Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:26 PM

 

I just want to point out that maltodextrin is just another form of MSG. So if you have added that recently that could affect how you feel. I can't use any form of MSG as it gives me palpitations, anxiety, etc...

 

Terri

From: Gibcast

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:25 AM

To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes. .)

 

Here's my daily diet! Considering I need a balanced diet with enough fiber, right amount of potassium, etc. This is everything I put into my mouth, every day, with some variations toit if I eat at a restaurant or something, but that's not all too often. I will try to put down theaverage of every week into one day!Every day, I eat and drink something like this:20 mcg T325 mg HCVitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample in 5 days.1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho) unraffined raw "grey" sea salt in it1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized)1 glass of organic rice milk1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on salads)1/2-1 cucumber2 organic apples1/2 organic banana1 kiwi1/2 red pepper1 organic carrot1-2 cellery sticks2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad1 extra well done steak (normal size)1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)6 organic eggs5-15 small cubes of feta cheese10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake - can be too much!)30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this bowl of pure oats!)1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it1 Sushi Maki roll piece1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)+ I salt every meal with sea salt.And that's pretty much it! I feel I eat quite healthy. But I also feel I need more variation,and I have the feeling that I am missing something. Guess I would've gotten more ironif I ate gluten-foods such as bread, regular cereals etc. One thing is for sure: I am sickof eating the same things every day. I miss feeling free and just eat whatever I want to,without worrying about gluten, high carb, sugar, chocolate etc. etc. It's just.. HARD!!!I also get MAJOR GUILT when I eat anything with obvious carbs, such as sushi, acheeseburger etc. Should I? Or can I allow myself eating some carbs every now and then?Sometimes I just feel that this diet is off balance. Healthy, summed up. But off balancesomehow? Maybe it's just me.

[Guest guest]

Regarding my diet; I will add more salad and meat to it then, and avoid most carbs. But meat is Acid in the body. What can I do to balance the acid/alkaline balance? I am afraid of getting Metabolic Acidosis or whatever it's called. Maybe I have it right now. The symptoms for that are being drained of energy. I've also had over top range insulin and c-peptide levels, when I checked those levels once in September 2009. Haven't checked them yet. I did do glucose and stuff like that at my GP's office a week ago and they came out a little high but within the range. So I guess it's impossible that I have diabetes? What do you experts say?

God, please, I just want this feeling to go away - Whatever it is - I am soooooo weak..... I am frying salmon now (the only food I have in my fridge!) and will eat that in hopes that it will miraculously make me feel better. I doubt it will, tho.T.

[Guest guest]

, in my opinion you have a very HIGH diet with protein, too much actually. You are probably eating 3x's the normal amount. But that is from my research. Eating a lot of protein is very taxing on the kidneys and should be eaten in no more then 20g at a time so it can be digested. This is coming from research and many doctors I have talked to.

Fruit is VERY high in carb, especially fruit juice as it's concentrated instead of a whole piece of fruit. Juice also doesn't have the fiber in it like a piece of fruit. Look at the nutrition labels and look up on the computer about carb content in fruit. A glass of orange juice has about 35+ grams of carb in an 8oz glass. Rice milk is high as well. Then add in fruit, esp bananas. I would guess that you are easily eating over 150g of carb a day in just fruit and the glass of rice milk, never mind the oatmeal, etc...

From: Gibcast

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:17 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes..)

I will talk to my specialist about selenium and zinc. She is an orthomolecular practitioner,and I was given these supplements for a reason, I'm sure. Like, combined they are goodtogether. I do understand why selenium would be bad for rT3, and why zinc is bad forHC. But she gave me Zinc and HC at the same time, so.... Makes me confused now!No, I don't see all the carbs I am eating. I do see it in that once cheeseburger and inthat maki piece. But other than that, there is no high carb foods in my diet???The fruit? Should I avboid ALL fruit? As well as all rice milk and all fruit juices?I know that the pure oats is carbs. But it's not the worst carbs, like sugar is?In the adrenal fatigue book I have it says that I should get some unrafined carbs insome of my meals. Not cut carbs entirely.With no fruit juices, iron absorbtion would be worse, and.. I go nuts only drinking waterand salted water all the time! Any ideas, tips, is highly appreciated, Val!Go ahead and change my diet if you want to!Forgot to say I cook my steaks in real butter. Which should be a good thing, I've learned.I hate medium or even rare steaks. I can't eat bloody dripping meat! What do yousuggest here?And why aren't I getting enough protein (I only eat eggs and meat, ever meal!!!) andgood fats? I thought the real butter was good fat, as well as the olive oil in things, andthe spoon of coconut oil I am taking every day? + all the nuts??Right now I feel worse than ever, so any correction to things I'm doing wrong is.. Good!T.

20 mcg T3

25 mg HCVitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample in 5 days.(Selenium shoiudl be STOPPED when trying ot remove RT3)(ZINC lowers coritos and you shoudlnot be takign it)1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho) unraffined raw "grey" sea salt in it1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized) HIGH CARB1 glass of organic rice milk HIGH CARB1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on salads)1/2-1 cucumber2 organic apples HIGH CARB1/2 organic banana HIGH CARB1 kiwi HIGH CARB1/2 red pepper1 organic carrot1-2 cellery sticks2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad1 extra well done steak (normal size)1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)6 organic eggs5-15 small cubes of feta cheese10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake - can be too much!)30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this bowl of pure oats!) HIGH CARB1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it1 Sushi Maki roll piece1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)Do oyu see all the HIGH CARB foods oyu are eating? THIS is most likely to be at least part of your symptoms. You are also not gettign enough protein and good fats. WHen you cook meat well, you are cooking most of the fats out and much of the good healthy enzymes. If I ate like this ther is no amount of inuslin that woudl controil my glucose. The rest is all healthy foods but controllign carbs is essential wiht weak adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Ah this is SO difficult!Everyone tells me to eat protein (meat) and salad, cut carbs (rice, potatos, etc.) and I try to do this. But my diet never seems to be perfect!Can someone give me a days worth of.. perfect diet for me? Gluten-free, low carb! Justtry to help me someone! I am really lost now!My plate usually looks like: 1 piece of steak or chicken or fish, some salat leaves and cucumber, and that's it. It's SO boring, and NOT tasty, really. What can I add in?Am I starving myself?

20 mcg T3

25 mg HCVitamin and mineral supplements: B-Complex, C, D3, E, Omega 3, Zinc, Selenium, Magnesium, K2, pause the iron for now to make a blood sample in 5 days.(Selenium shoiudl be STOPPED when trying ot remove RT3)(ZINC lowers coritos and you shoudlnot be takign it)1 liter (0.25 gallon) of water with 1 tea spoon (not topped tho) unraffined raw "grey" sea salt in it1/2 liter (0.12 gallon) of carbonated mineral water1/2liter (0.12 gallon) of water with no sea salt in it1 glass of orange juice (fresh, non pasteurized) HIGH CARB1 glass of organic rice milk HIGH CARB1 table spoon of virgin organic coconut oil1-2 table spoons of extra virgin organic olive oil (in cooking and on salads)1/2-1 cucumber2 organic apples HIGH CARB1/2 organic banana HIGH CARB1 kiwi HIGH CARB1/2 red pepper1 organic carrot1-2 cellery sticks2-3 leaves of dark green organic salad1 extra well done steak (normal size)1 chicken leg/thigh (can't remember what you call it in the US/England)6 organic eggs5-15 small cubes of feta cheese10-20 slices of regular plain real cheese5-10 table spoons of cottage cheese (worried about my calcium intake - can be too much!)30-50 nuts (almonds, macadamia, a few cashews and brazil nuts)1 bowl of pure oats w/ rice milk (that 1 glass up there is used in this bowl of pure oats!) HIGH CARB1-2 cups of herbal tea (organic rooibos tea, for example) with 1/2 tea spoon of white stevia powder w/ maltodextrin in it1 Sushi Maki roll piece1/7 Mcs cheeseburger, gluten-free plain cheese (1 weekely)Do oyu see all the HIGH CARB foods oyu are eating? THIS is most likely to be at least part of your symptoms. You are also not gettign enough protein and good fats. WHen you cook meat well, you are cooking most of the fats out and much of the good healthy enzymes. If I ate like this ther is no amount of inuslin that woudl controil my glucose. The rest is all healthy foods but controllign carbs is essential wiht weak adrenals.

[Guest guest]

I give up with this diet thing.Alkaline diets are supposed to be the best, as acid formind food (meat, especially salmon which I am eating right Now!) can create serious disease.However, an alkaline diet full of fruit juices won't go along with my LOW CARB diet.And eating gluten-free leaves me even less choice.I feel like I am starving next to a pile of useless food, even when walking INSIDE the small grocery store we have here.And what's better than asking you guys - You all are Hypo, with AF, and ou all run a low carb diet. Some of you also gluten-free. I have come to the right place, at least. But I have very little hope for anything right now. I just feel like I have NO energy, and I doubt eating this salmon will help me. For all I know, I can have a major acid

overload at the moment, giving me these symptoms.

[Guest guest]

I believe you can find Stevia without maltodextrin.Where are you buying yours?If

you are buying yours at a retail grocer the problem with that is,as soon as any

big corporation gets involved in a healthy

substance,they pervert it,so try a health food store brand.

Here is a link to hidden sources of MSG

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.htmYou can email me privately for

additional info. chantalh@...

> Ieat one SMALL serving of fruit about 2-3 times a week and it is 

>

> mandarin oranges wiht no sugar added. One apple 2-3 times a week woudl

>

> be fine, rice, oats and breads I do nto touch. I go through about a

>

> dozen eggs a week and 1-2 pounds of meat daily. Cheeses and lots of them

>

> are great, if oyu have no diary sensitivities cottage cheese and yogurts

>

> are wonderful. Vegetables can be increased, and yeah the burger shoudl

>

> go. Salads shoudl have not only veggies but meats and cheese and eggs as

>

> well. Olives are great. Fish is good too if you cn eat it, I am very

>

> limited in fish I can eat. Here is a sample day for me

>

> Coffee with cream and no carb sweetener

>

> 2 mozarella cheese sticks for breakfast

>

> coffee again

>

> lunch 6oz low carb yogurt

>

> 6oz mandarin oranges or 6oz full fat cottage cheese

>

> 16 ounces water wiht sea salt

>

> snack lettuce wiht low carb dressing and sliced tomatoes

>

> dinner

>

> Coffee with cream & no crb sweetener

>

> 1 pound meat (usually steak or burger)

>

> 1 cup veggies usually carrots or well cooked broccoli or cauliflower

>  

> Dessert which is peanut butter and celery or sugar free whipped cream  

>

[Guest guest]

, you need to do everything in moderation. We all can't tell you what to eat because we all have different likes/dislikes, and react to different foods. A lot of what you eat is okay, but you eat too much of it. I don't think you need to eat 6+ eggs a day. Last week you said you ate a dozen eggs a day, today you say it is 6. An average steak....to you that might be 8-10 ounces, but to me an average piece is 4 ounces. Last week you said a whole carton of rice milk, today you said one cup.

Do you have blood sugar issues? If you don't then I wouldn't be concerned with a super low carb diet. Low carb can also cause RT3 problems from what I have read. I would eat in moderation. 3 eggs for breakfast with maybe a gluten free muffin (we have them here, like a piece of toast, but round and you cut them in half, 30g of carb in one), and put a little butter or coconut oil on it. Then for lunch do maybe a piece of of chicken (4-6 ounces) with some steamed veggies and maybe a half cup of brown rice. For a snack, yogurt, or cottage cheese with some strawberries and almonds. For dinner you could do 4-6oz of steak, with some salad and maybe 1/2 cup of quinoa (grain) or something like that. The oatmeal is fine, but the problem with it is that is has about 35g of carb and then so does the rice milk, so you are getting high carb together which could cause a "crash" from carb overload. People with thyroid problems seem to be more sensitive to carbs, sugar, etc...

An apple with a slice or two of cheese is a good snack or with some peanut butter. If you get natural peanut butter it will not have sugars in it like some of the commercial ones do. It's finding the balance for YOU! Play around with it, keep a food journal to see if certain foods or additives bother you. Like I said earlier, maltodextrin is another form of MSG, which is neurotoxin and affects the nervous system.

Reading your emails, a lot of the problem I believe is anxiety. It can affect how you feel, get your heart racing or acting weird. You will get a rush of cortisol or adrenaline with the anxiety and then later "crash" from exhaustion. That alone will make you feel awful (happens to me all the time). Continue to eat as well as you can, drink plenty of fluids, take your supplements. Maybe one of them is bothering you. I would try to see if a supplement is bothering you. You can tell you are very anxious by your emails. You ask the same questions most every day, which I understand you are scared. But this fear/anxiety is adding to your health problem. Trust that you are working in the right direction. It has been months of Val telling you to increase your iron, but you are so fearful of doing it. You can't increase your T3, if you don't get your ferritin up....so take the 150-200mg of elemental iron a day in divided doses and then test it every 6 weeks or so. Once you get that to an acceptable level, you will be able to bring up your T3 and you will start to feel better. I am not sure if you have an RT3 problem or not, but it will take the 12 weeks to clear or maybe longer. So get the ferritin up, increase your T3 and then take it from there. Thinking positive instead of "I am dying" will also make a big difference in how you feel. I have been there, and speak from experience. Anxiety and depression can control your life and ruin it. We are here for you, but you need to be willing to make the changes so you can get better. Listen to Val and Nick...and make the changes necessary so you can move forward instead of being stuck in one place.

You will get there!!!!

Terri

From: Gibcast

Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:58 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: My diet. What do you guys think? (Regarding potassium intake, electrolytes..)

Thanks for your diet Val! I have gone through it a few times now and tried to see if I can eat what you eat!

Mozarella cheese stick = gluten on the outside.

Peanut butter = sugar = carbs?

Coffee = I don't like it.. And it has caffeine which is bad for AF?

Which sweetener do you use?

Low carb yoghurt - How much sugar is in it? And is it pasteurized = bad for AF?

Burger meat = processed = bad for AF?

I will try to make celery soup tonight. The AF-diet is not very alkaline unfortunately.

I am crying right now beause I feel that this is such a hoopleless situaton.

Ieat one SMALL serving of fruit about 2-3 times a week and it is mandarin oranges wiht no sugar added. One apple 2-3 times a week woudl be fine, rice, oats and breads I do nto touch. I go through about a dozen eggs a week and 1-2 pounds of meat daily. Cheeses and lots of them are great, if oyu have no diary sensitivities cottage cheese and yogurts are wonderful. Vegetables can be increased, and yeah the burger shoudl go. Salads shoudl have not only veggies but meats and cheese and eggs as well. Olives are great. Fish is good too if you cn eat it, I am very limited in fish I can eat. Here is a sample day for meCoffee with cream and no carb sweetener2 mozarella cheese sticks for breakfastcoffee againlunch 6oz low carb yogurt6oz mandarin oranges or 6oz full fat cottage cheese16 ounces water wiht sea saltsnack lettuce wiht low carb dressing and sliced tomatoesdinnerCoffee with cream & no crb sweetener1 pound meat (usually steak or burger)1 cup veggies usually carrots or well cooked broccoli or cauliflower Dessert which is peanut butter and celery or sugar free whipped cream

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Wow, thanks for the long reply!Moderation. I have always been a very passionate person. It's either ON or OFF. Cannot go for anything in between. I better change that, huh.. Ok, so what we like and dislike is one thing. I can't eat berries, because I dislike them. But I cannot eat gluten because I might not tolerate it very well. So I'm eating gluten free, low carb. I think I am somewhere around 3 eggs daily now. I am changing what I eat while learning! Yes, an average steak to me is 8-10 ounces. And I eat one of those daily. I have cut down from 1 carton of rice milk daily, to maybe 1 glass, or less. But I can stop drinking it. No problems. I started drinking rice milk because I was only drinking water and got sick of only drinking water all the time. I needed something with a taste, and rice milk is sweet and pleasant. I do see that

it has a lot of carbs in it, though.I don't know if I have blood sguar issues, I don't know how to tell. But I have been feeling bad, even while on thyroid meds and feeling healthy 3 years ago, if I don't eat for 6 hours or more. These days, I eat every 2-3 hours. And I have completely stopped eating ice cream, chocolate and all those sweet treats that I love so much. I try to keep my blood sugar in a straight line. I was told to eat small meals often by my first specialist when I first first got diagnosed with Hypothyroidism from an unknown reason (Typ2 ) back in 1997. He was right all the time, I guess. I didn't really listen to him for all these years tho. I felt so good, I really lived like a normal healty person. It was fine, for 10 years. Then boom it all stopped in the begynning of 2008. I've been in some kind of hell ever since. Well I obviously shouldn't have gone to those Endo's instead of my specialist back in 2008. All they

wanted was to remove all my thyroid meds based on that blood sample from 1997, that said I didn't have any thyroid issues. (FT4 was at 12.5 at the time though. Not very high now was it. But within range, and that meant that I was healthy, to them at least, even if I was 300 lbs and felt like a big, fat zombie!) Great, low carb can CAUSR rT3 issues. This is crazy! So, eating low carb to avoid rT3 issues also causes them. Haha. Why am I eating low carb at all then?I do feel hungry every 2 hours. Sometimes after 1 hour. What I do is I eat a bunch of nuts. Like canola oil roasted almonds with salt on them (NOW Foods brand, iherb.com) or macadamia nuts. I eat maybe 20-30 nuts, and I'm fine for the next hour. I have about 6 meals daily plus snacks in between the meals. Your breakfast example was nice. We don't have a lot of gluten free products over here in Norway, it's a small country with only less than 5 million people living here total.

We do have some gluten free breads in some shops a lil farther away from my place though. I was eating them every day til I found out that gluten-free and low carb doesn't mix. The lunch you suggest also seems fine! I can do that. I used to LOVE cooking, but when I eat the same stuff every day, and have to watch what I eat, and stuff takes such a long time to prepare, I get sick of cooking. When you feel EXTREMELY BAD all the time, it also sucks to cook. There is no joy in it. I just do it to survive. Which is why I will do anything to survive. Even if I don't like doing it. As for the snack you're talking about: I immediately think about the yoghurt as a problem. It must be low carb, right? Which means little to no sugar added. As for artificial sugar, I will not buy any yoghurt with artificial sugar in it. So we're down to a plain full fat yoghurt. Which tastes bad. I don't like that plain taste. I can eat it just to eat, but I will not enjoy it. I

also can't add berries as I don't like any berries. (I was forced to eat them as a child, with antibiotics, for years.. I will never touch a berry ever again!) I did buy a full fat, vanilla yoghurt last night. 500 ml. It has 8% sugar in it, which means something like 13 grams of carbs pr 100 ml. I think that was what it said on the package. I ate half of it. It was VERY tasty. But I also felt like I was eating something I cannot eat because of the sugar added to it. I must find out what I can't eat and what I can eat and just feel GOOD while eating my diet! Nowadays, I am filled with guilt and uncertainty while I eat. Almost every meal.As for the dinner you suggested. It seems fine. I never tasted quinoa, but should be able to find it on my favorite (iherb) online supplements store. Do I eat it raw or do I have to cook it? I am clueless about it. But the 4-6 oz steak is too small for me. Even when I eat an 8 oz steak, which I do

almost every day for dinner, I will get hungry after some time. I will prepare an 8 oz steak in a few hours. But I hear well done is a bad choice? I cannot eat any meat that is not well done. I always fry my meat in real full fat butter. Which I hear is the best for anyone anyway! As for my occasional pure oats (I eat them natural, non-cooked) with rice milk. I like that meal, cause it's fast, takes 10 seconds to prepare, and it tastes ok. It even tastes good with 1 organic banana in it. But the banana gives me the feeling like I'm getting too much fruit sugar/carbs. Am I right? I just need to get comfortable with what I eat and feel SAFE. It would make a HUGE difference to my daily like. Now every meal is like "uh oh, is this really safe and perfect for me?"The other snack you mention. Apple with cheese. Wow, never heard about that combo. I put the cheese on top of the apple? I get it. On the side. I have never seen any peanut

butter without sugar here. We do have some US imported stuff around here. But I prefer using iherb. Their shipping option with DHL fits me perfectly.Wow, is maltodextrin a neurotoxin? NO THANKS!!! NOBODY messes with my brain!!! I will stop eating my stevia as of THIS moment. Holy.....!!! THANK YOU!!! I will have to buy my stevia another place then.Yes. Anxiety is a big problem for me. BUT I wouldn't have any anxiety if I felt good physically. So the physical stuff BEGAN FIRST, and made the mental stuff appear, making the physical things ever worse. I know how it works. But I can't help it - I wanna do everything right! I wanna eat right! Take my HC and T3 right! Don't do any mistakes! I guess if I only knew what to eat, I would feel much more relaxed throughout the day! Can a person even get arrhythmia in the heart from being too worried? I am also worried I will be too worried, so that I can die form being worried

about being too worried. Haha. *shakes head* I don't handle being sick so well. . . Miss living!!!Yes maybe a supplement or two is causing problems for my health. I question zinc for HC, and selenium for rT3. My specialist, who is a VERY talented and experienced orthomolecular practitioner, gave me those supplements with the HC tho..........Yeah, I'm anxious, but only because I feel bad. A wicked circle, again. I know. I just need to improve SOMETHING to feel better and make me less worried! Eating right would take a huge stress off of my shoulders. And feeling good about what I eat! Right now I worry that Ie at too many nuts. I had over 50 almonds today. I am thinking.. Do I get too much calcium from them? And too much fat overall?I did increase my iron like Val adviced me to do. 150 mg was my dose til a few days ago when I cut it to nothing. I wanna test my Ferritin and get a REAL result! I am

worried about potentially harmful effects of iron tho. Even if Ferritin is not increasing so fast... Worried about damage to the liver, kidneys, and a high serum iron! Mine was 30 (range: 5 to 35) when on 100 mg Chelated iron daily.Well, if we trust the raios, I do have an rT3 problem. The ratio was: 14.8 last time I checked it, before I started taking T3-only. That's why I am taking T3-only now! After reading Nicks website, and posts in this group + advice from my specialist who also believes in T3-only treatment. She is, however, worried about my heart and say that I might not be ablt to take T3 at all. I got arrhythmia once in December, and twice two days ago. It's horrifying, and only puts fuel to my already huge amount of fear. Fact is, nobody knows what's wrong with me, and nobody knows if my heart can take T3-only, and... It's all just a big mess of uncertainty! If I could only start feeling BETTER soon, in one way or the other,

I would be MUCH more positive!Thanks for these (many good) words. They mean a lot to me. To know somebody are there to give advice means the world to me! Thank you Val, Nick, Terri and all you other people!And good health to you ALL!

Ieat one SMALL serving of fruit about 2-3 times a week and it is mandarin oranges wiht no sugar added. One apple 2-3 times a week woudl be fine, rice, oats and breads I do nto touch. I go through about a dozen eggs a week and 1-2 pounds of meat daily. Cheeses and lots of them are great, if oyu have no diary sensitivities cottage cheese and yogurts are wonderful. Vegetables can be increased, and yeah the burger shoudl go. Salads shoudl have not only veggies but meats and cheese and eggs as well. Olives are great. Fish is good too if you cn eat it, I am very limited in fish I can eat. Here is a sample day for meCoffee with cream and no carb sweetener2 mozarella cheese sticks for breakfastcoffee againlunch 6oz low carb yogurt6oz mandarin oranges or 6oz full fat cottage cheese16 ounces water wiht sea saltsnack lettuce wiht low carb dressing and sliced tomatoesdinnerCoffee with cream & no crb sweetener1 pound meat (usually steak or burger)1 cup veggies usually carrots or well cooked broccoli or cauliflower  Dessert which is peanut butter and celery or sugar free whipped cream  

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The best thing to do is to eat green vegetables everyday, lemons and berries also help. Eating meat is not the problem, excess grains, sugar, caffeine, trans fats, processed foods, and other chemicals is the problem. Anyone who has blood sugar issues(AF) should not eat fruit on an empty stomach, it's still sugar. I think eating an apple with some cheese or some nuts is a good snack. It really depends on your individual needs.

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Just adding a couple of points:

When my doc was trying to help me with PCOS/hyperandrogen and wanted to keep my blood sugar level, he told me to never eat fruit without some sort of protein. Peanut butter and cheese were both noted as options to enjoy with fruit such as an apple.

Also, I may be reading the message/string wrong, but why do you feel like you have to eat yogurt? Yogurt can't be low in sugar simply because of the natural process it takes to make yogurt, so it would be higher sugar even without any sugar added, if I understand correctly.

Another note - Canola oil is made from the Rapeseed plant. My endo and his nutritionist say this oil should be avoided because it can negatively affect thyroid funditon. I don't have any research on this at the moment, but it might be worth looking into further. Here's one link with info -- but it's somwhat inflammatory: http://www.ithyroid.com/canola_oil.htm. Another link, from a medical journal article at http://www.springerlink.com/content/w747w137232qq123/ says:

The antithyroid effect of the untreated rapeseed meal was reduced by alkaline treatment of the meals, as shown by improved T4 and free T4 levels in chicks fed the processed products. In chicks fed untreated or alkaline-treated canola or alkaline heated rapeseed meal, all thyroid hormone levels were similar to those of birds fed the soybean meal diet. However, heart tissue of chicks fed diets containing rapeseed or canola meals showed muscle fiber degeneration, although relative heart weights were the same in all groups.

Like I said -- worth looking into if you're wanting to avoid anything bad. Just adding more information to the large amounts you're already having to consider, huh? :-)

Good luck!

Ieat one SMALL serving of fruit about 2-3 times a week and it is mandarin oranges wiht no sugar added. One apple 2-3 times a week woudl be fine, rice, oats and breads I do nto touch. I go through about a dozen eggs a week and 1-2 pounds of meat daily. Cheeses and lots of them are great, if oyu have no diary sensitivities cottage cheese and yogurts are wonderful. Vegetables can be increased, and yeah the burger shoudl go. Salads shoudl have not only veggies but meats and cheese and eggs as well. Olives are great. Fish is good too if you cn eat it, I am very limited in fish I can eat. Here is a sample day for meCoffee with cream and no carb sweetener2 mozarella cheese sticks for breakfastcoffee againlunch 6oz low carb yogurt6oz mandarin oranges or 6oz full fat cottage cheese16 ounces water wiht sea saltsnack lettuce wiht low carb

dressing and sliced tomatoesdinnerCoffee with cream & no crb sweetener1 pound meat (usually steak or burger)1 cup veggies usually carrots or well cooked broccoli or cauliflower Dessert which is peanut butter and celery or sugar free whipped cream