Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I have dreams at night and I guess you can call them nightmares they are allways about my family that have past years a go they are not really bad but I would really like to dream of my family now and in the futher in sted of the past Sherrie--- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " gonzo_skye " <gonzo_skye@y...> wrote: > > I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay > awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after > night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl > into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go > right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter > the coctail..the same thing......................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I have bad dreams too and very often have trouble getting my mind to stop racing when I wake up in the middle of the night. Last night, I took Flexeril, then decided I was in too much pain to fall asleep so I took a Perc, then after an hour of sleep I am wide a wake and took a sedative! A typical night! I used to love reading but since I have been sick I find it difficult to concentrate on a book. I basically wind up watching the E Channel because that's all I am capable of understanding at night! > > I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay > awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after > night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl > into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go > right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter > the coctail..the same thing......................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Sherrie, I have the same problem. My dreams are never of the living only of those that have passed away........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: " scorn720 " <scorn720@...> <Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: Re: night owl I have dreams at night and I guess you can call them nightmares they are allways about my family that have past years a go they are not really bad but I would really like to dream of my family now and in the futher in sted of the past Sherrie--- In Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I can totaly relate..No matter what I take or do it is just an hour here or there and not good sleep. I also take flexeril 20mg and still no sleep but sometimes helps with the pain. Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: > I have bad dreams too and very often have trouble getting my mind to stop racing when I wake up in the middle of the night. I also have bad dreams, but before I became ill, I almost never remembered my dreams. So I chalk it up to the meds. > Last night, I took Flexeril, then decided I was in too much pain to fall asleep so I took a Perc, then after an hour of sleep I am wide a wake and took a sedative! A typical night! Same here. I take a Restoril to sleep, which after several hours will make me somewhat sleepy. But then I'm still in too much pain to sleep so more often than not, I then take a Darvocet. That will usually get me through a couple of hours. Then I'm awake again. It's a pain.> I used to love reading but since I have been sick I find it difficult to concentrate on a book. I can't concentrate to read anymore either and it's frustrating because I love to read. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I get ‘defend yourself’ dreams when I’m stressed about something. I have tornados, plane crashes, burglars, mass murderers, mayhem in the city, battle scenes, fighting dogs, shark attacks, anything you can think of… Our dreams are a barometer to the subconscious. Sometimes you can change them. But does it have anything to do with the meds? Or pain? Love, peace and sweet dreams to you yellow " History is written by the winners. The books say the Indians were bad guys and the whites just needed a little land. It's like, 'excuse me, let me take your car. I'm discovering it. I'm putting my flag on your windshield'. " Van Peebles -----Original Message----- From: gonzo_skye [mailto:gonzo_skye@...] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:53 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: night owl I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter the coctail..the same thing......................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Violent, or bad dreams are very much dependent on medication, particularly pain meds. Anyone who is taking high or frequent dosages of narcotics will have bad dreams. Flexerill or any muscle relaxer can also cause them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: RE: night owl I get ‘defend yourself’ dreams when I’m stressed about something. I have tornados, plane crashes, burglars, mass murderers, mayhem in the city, battle scenes, fighting dogs, shark attacks, anything you can think of… Our dreams are a barometer to the subconscious. Sometimes you can change them. But does it have anything to do with the meds? Or pain? Love, peace and sweet dreams to you yellow "History is written by the winners. The books say the Indians were bad guysand the whites just needed a little land. It's like, 'excuse me, let me takeyour car. I'm discovering it. I'm putting my flag on your windshield'." Van Peebles -----Original Message-----From: gonzo_skye [mailto:gonzo_skye@...] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:53 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: night owl I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter the coctail..the same thing......................Skye No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Thanks, ! That’s good to know. Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: Hasenstab [mailto:saludo@...] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:01 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: night owl Violent, or bad dreams are very much dependent on medication, particularly pain meds. Anyone who is taking high or frequent dosages of narcotics will have bad dreams. Flexerill or any muscle relaxer can also cause them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zoom Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: RE: night owl I get ‘defend yourself’ dreams when I’m stressed about something. I have tornados, plane crashes, burglars, mass murderers, mayhem in the city, battle scenes, fighting dogs, shark attacks, anything you can think of… Our dreams are a barometer to the subconscious. Sometimes you can change them. But does it have anything to do with the meds? Or pain? Love, peace and sweet dreams to you yellow " History is written by the winners. The books say the Indians were bad guys and the whites just needed a little land. It's like, 'excuse me, let me take your car. I'm discovering it. I'm putting my flag on your windshield'. " Van Peebles -----Original Message----- From: gonzo_skye [mailto:gonzo_skye@...] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:53 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: night owl I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter the coctail..the same thing......................Skye No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I had to respond to this... I'm not sure who said it: "Anyone who is taking high or frequent dosages of narcotics will have bad dreams." Nope, that isn't true. I'm not sure where that information comes from, but perhaps it is outdated or just mistaken. I've been on Vicodin and Percoset up to 6x a day for the past couple of years and I almost never have bad dreams. I don't sleep all that well (thank you prednisone) but I can't remember the last time I had a nightmare. Dream involvement just isn't listed as a side effect on any of my narcotic medications. Also, re: the epidural for a knee replacement. I had epidural pain control for both of my hip replacements. They're fabulous things. (Epidurals AND hip replacements.) You won't be awake during the procedure -- they put you out with a gentle sleep-inducing something or other first via your IV before even inserting the epidural so you don't feel a thing. When you wake up the epidural is in place and they give you a little button to push for pain relief. It's great. It's also MUCH safer than general anesthesia. I had a regular nerve block for my shoulder replacement because I was afraid of the general, and that wasn't as fun... it hurt going in because you need to be somewhat awake so you can tell the anesthesiologist who is poking around with his needle what you're feeling, so he knows when he's hit the correct nerve. The epidural was definitely preferable. Too bad they don't work on upper body. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Okay, it should have said "almost anyone." You can find the support for that in addiction studies. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenni Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:53 PM Subject: Re: night owl I had to respond to this... I'm not sure who said it: "Anyone who is taking high or frequent dosages of narcotics will have bad dreams." Nope, that isn't true. I'm not sure where that information comes from, but perhaps it is outdated or just mistaken. I've been on Vicodin and Percoset up to 6x a day for the past couple of years and I almost never have bad dreams. I don't sleep all that well (thank you prednisone) but I can't remember the last time I had a nightmare. Dream involvement just isn't listed as a side effect on any of my narcotic medications. Also, re: the epidural for a knee replacement. I had epidural pain control for both of my hip replacements. They're fabulous things. (Epidurals AND hip replacements.) You won't be awake during the procedure -- they put you out with a gentle sleep-inducing something or other first via your IV before even inserting the epidural so you don't feel a thing. When you wake up the epidural is in place and they give you a little button to push for pain relief. It's great. It's also MUCH safer than general anesthesia. I had a regular nerve block for my shoulder replacement because I was afraid of the general, and that wasn't as fun... it hurt going in because you need to be somewhat awake so you can tell the anesthesiologist who is poking around with his needle what you're feeling, so he knows when he's hit the correct nerve. The epidural was definitely preferable. Too bad they don't work on upper body. Jenni No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 << Okay, it should have said "almost anyone." You can find the support for that in addiction studies. >> I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either. I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on the rheumatoid arthritis list. Those people taking narcotic medication for legitimate pain disorders are an entirely different category than street addicts or prescription abusers, and because our medication is cancelling out pain instead of... well, I'm not real sure what the stuff does or is supposed to do when there isn't any pain for it to act against... we tend not to have the same effects from it as others do. Maybe if you're only taking it to get high, you do end up with bad dreams. (I kinda feel that serves them right, but I'm mean.) I don't mean to sound militant here, but narcotic painkillers have ENOUGH stigma attached to them already, and if even ONE PERSON decides not to take a medicine that can potentially improve their quality of life by leaps and bounds because they are afraid of what a non-medical professional with no experience actually taking the medication says on a mailing group... that makes me want to cry. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Jenni " <chaospearl@...> > I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either. I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on the rheumatoid arthritis list. Different people react differently to medications. Here's an article from arthritis-symptom.com. It lists nightmares as one side effect. I definitely get nightmares with Darvocet-N. http://www.arthritis-symptom.com/arthritis-drugs/opioid.htm Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 It wasn't medication that caused my nightmares. It was after my husband and three children died..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: " Nina " <ncampbell@...> <Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: night owl ----- Original Message ----- From: " Jenni " <chaospearl@...> > I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either. I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on the rheumatoid arthritis list. Different people react differently to medications. Here's an article from arthritis-symptom.com. It lists nightmares as one side effect. I definitely get nightmares with Darvocet-N. http://www.arthritis-symptom.com/arthritis-drugs/opioid.htm Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary > It wasn't medication that caused my nightmares. It was aftermy husband and three children died..........Joyce M I'm so sorry to hear about that. :-( That's definitely enough to give anyone nightmares! Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 > It wasn't medication that caused my nightmares. It was aftermy husband and three children died..........Joyce M Joyce, I'm so sorry to hear that. I think if anything comparable happened to me, I'd be one of those people taking the drugs to get high. My DOG died last summer and I was inconsolable for days. I can't imagine what it's like for you to deal with your losses AND your own body's total betrayal. You must be the stongest woman I know. Bless you. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 This is interesting.....I used to have good dreams....then when I started all the RA meds....I started having Nap Mares...lol.....bad nightmares when I took one of those Power naps....you know the ones you take when your just all of a sudden so tired that you can't hold your head up. Now that I take Pain meds.....I'm not having nap mares or dreams...(@@)...kinda weird......I don't remember having a dream in a long while now. Carla > > I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay > awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after > night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl > into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go > right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter > the coctail..the same thing......................Skye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 You don't need to get defensive. Do some research yourself. I'm not going to argue with you, because you're obviously coming at this from a very personal viewpoint. If you don't have bad dreams, then what's the problem? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jenni Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: Re: night owl << Okay, it should have said "almost anyone." You can find the support for that in addiction studies. >> I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either. I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on the rheumatoid arthritis list. Those people taking narcotic medication for legitimate pain disorders are an entirely different category than street addicts or prescription abusers, and because our medication is cancelling out pain instead of... well, I'm not real sure what the stuff does or is supposed to do when there isn't any pain for it to act against... we tend not to have the same effects from it as others do. Maybe if you're only taking it to get high, you do end up with bad dreams. (I kinda feel that serves them right, but I'm mean.) I don't mean to sound militant here, but narcotic painkillers have ENOUGH stigma attached to them already, and if even ONE PERSON decides not to take a medicine that can potentially improve their quality of life by leaps and bounds because they are afraid of what a non-medical professional with no experience actually taking the medication says on a mailing group... that makes me want to cry. Jenni No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 And I've had several surgeries and had nightmares from the narcotics used afterwards for pain. It's a pretty well-documented effect in literature, as well as research. Just because you are not addicted to something does not mean you won't get some of the same effects. People taking a drug for pain certainly can become addicted. It's a very real danger. When the drug ceases to block the pain and has to be increased, your body is acclimating to it and building up a dependency on it. If you take enough painkillers over a long enough period, you can build up to a dangerous dosage where nothing seems to work any longer. That's what physical addiction is. People with severe bone pain who have had surgery become addicted to morphine if they are on high enough dosages for a long time. That's one of the dangers of it. The other very real danger is thinking you're *safe* just because you have a legitimate pain. Many, many addicts began their addiction with real pain and then developed a psychological dependency on the drug for a variety of reasons which are far too long and complicated to go into here. Pain is still a poorly-understood phenomenon in the medical community and many doctors undertreat it because they know the consequences of taking heavy drugs over long periods of time, particularly when the patient is young and is expected to need those drugs the rest of their lives. There is a limit to how high a dosage anyone can take, and once you reach that on a certain drug, and it has stopped being effective, you are experiencing what every addict experiences -- your body is physically maintaining on the drug and you need to switch to another medication to get the necessary effect. What happens when you've taken all the different types that are out there, and you're still in pain? Think about it -- that's what your doctor is thinking about when he limits what he prescribes. That's what chronic pain clinics deal with -- ways to handle the pain that don't necessarily involve heavy narcotics. Sedating yourself is a way to handle it right now, but it won't last forever. Just as we increase our dosages of methotrexate, plaquenil, and other RA drugs, dosages of narcotics, tranks, and muscle relaxers have to be increased too. There's a ceiling to every drug and once you reach it, there are fewer options left. That's reality. Denying it doesn't change a thing. Being aware of it and dealing with it as best we can is really the only sensible option there is. My information comes from many years of experience, training, and research. You can agree or disagree or do anything you want with it, but I'm not going to get into a big argument with anyone who doesn't want to accept it. That's up to you. Addiction is a loaded word and unless you understand fully what it means and how it works, you can mislead yourself into thinking that you're "safe" because your medication is doctor-prescribed and you have "real " pain. Becoming addicted to a medication does not mean that you are a bad person or some old street degenerate who will be out there trying to score illegal drugs. It's a real phenomenon which needs to be understood and dealt with rationally. ----- Original Message ----- From: Nina Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:00 PM Subject: Re: night owl ----- Original Message -----From: "Jenni" <chaospearl@...>> I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either.I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on therheumatoid arthritis list.Different people react differently to medications. Here's an article fromarthritis-symptom.com. It lists nightmares as one side effect. Idefinitely get nightmares with Darvocet-N.http://www.arthritis-symptom.com/arthritis-drugs/opioid.htmNina No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 That's terrible, Joyce. I'm so sorry that happened. You have incredible strength to keep going on. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:54 PM Subject: Re: night owl It wasn't medication that caused my nightmares. It was aftermy husband and three children died..........Joyce M----- Original Message ----- From: "Nina " <ncampbell@...><Rheumatoid Arthritis >Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:00 PMSubject: Re: night owl----- Original Message -----From: "Jenni" <chaospearl@...>> I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either.I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on therheumatoid arthritis list.Different people react differently to medications. Here's an article fromarthritis-symptom.com. It lists nightmares as one side effect. Idefinitely get nightmares with Darvocet-N.http://www.arthritis-symptom.com/arthritis-drugs/opioid.htmNina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 EEEEK! Yes! I have "nap mares" every time I take a nap! I can't do it anymore -- I wake up so disoriented and upset that it totally negates the effect of the sleep<g>. I don't know what that's about, because I'm only on plaquenil and no painkillers other than naproxen, and I've had the nap mares all my life. ----- Original Message ----- From: frogge Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: Re: night owl This is interesting.....I used to have good dreams....then when I started all the RA meds....I started having Nap Mares...lol.....bad nightmares when I took one of those Power naps....you know the ones you take when your just all of a sudden so tired that you can't hold your head up. Now that I take Pain meds.....I'm not having nap mares or dreams...(@@)...kinda weird......I don't remember having a dream in a long while now. Carla> > I so hate the nights, I dream terrible dreams and awaken,stay > awake an hour or more than more bad dreams..this goes on night after > night afternight.I use to lookforeward to late evening.I would crawl > into bed and read and read for hours.No if I pick up a book I go > right to sleep..horror ville. Anyone else experience this? No matter > the coctail..the same thing......................Skye Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Joyice I'm sorry to hear about the lose of your husband and childern how long a go did it happen you are a very strong person to be able to cope with that kind of lose Sherrie > It wasn't medication that caused my nightmares. It was after > my husband and three children died..........Joyce M > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Nina " <ncampbell@t...> > <Rheumatoid Arthritis > > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: night owl > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Jenni " <chaospearl@o...> > > > I don't know anyone else taking painkiller who has bad dreams, either. > I'm not certain what addiction studies have to do with we here on the > rheumatoid arthritis list. > > Different people react differently to medications. Here's an article from > arthritis-symptom.com. It lists nightmares as one side effect. I > definitely get nightmares with Darvocet-N. > > http://www.arthritis-symptom.com/arthritis-drugs/opioid.htm > > Nina > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab >And I've had several surgeries and had nightmares from the narcotics used afterwards for pain. It's a pretty well-documented effect in literature, as well as research. Just because you are not addicted to something does not mean you won't get some of the same effects. People taking a drug for pain certainly can become addicted. It's a very real danger. I agree. I told my doctor I'd rather live with some pain than add an addiction to my other problems. So I only take the pain meds when I really, really need them. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasenstab > Maybe if you're only taking it to get high, you do end up with bad dreams. (I kinda feel that serves them right, but I'm mean.) I don't mean to sound militant here, but narcotic painkillers have ENOUGH stigma attached to them already, and if even ONE PERSON decides not to take a medicine that can potentially improve their quality of life by leaps and bounds because they are afraid of what a non-medical professional with no experience actually taking the medication says on a mailing group... that makes me want to cry. I don't take them to get high. However, I do have nightmares from Darvocet-N. I never take more than two per day and most days don't take any. I don't think it's wrong to let people know there can be side effects. They need to know all the facts so they can make an informed decision for themselves. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I take my pain meds when the pain is excruciating, however, on some occasions when I have a medium level of pain all day, sometimes I take it just for a brief break in the pain. I am in constant pain with varying levels of degree. Everybody's pain is different, though, and it is hard for me to say " No, you shouldn't take pain meds round the clock " , because I am not in their body, just like they are not in mine. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hasenstab > > > >And I've had several surgeries and had nightmares from the narcotics used afterwards for pain. It's a pretty well-documented effect in literature, as well as research. Just because you are not addicted to something does not mean you won't get some of the same effects. People taking a drug for pain certainly can become addicted. It's a very real danger. > > I agree. I told my doctor I'd rather live with some pain than add an addiction to my other problems. So I only take the pain meds when I really, really need them. > > Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: >Everybody's pain is different, though, and it is hard for me to say "No, you shouldn't take pain meds round the clock", because I am not in their body, just like they are not in mine. Oh, I agree! Everyone should do what is best for them. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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