Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 My experience so far is that I cannot eat rice, potatoes, bread, crackers. I've been told to watch for the night-shade vegetables (green pepper, potatoes, tomatoes). The potatoes really do me in. We went out to a pub Friday night with friends for a 50th birthday party and they served fresh fried potato chips. I ate some but not that many and really felt it the next day. A friend told me she has a friend with RA and one bag of potato chips causes her problems. Becky [ ] Diet and RA Hi Maybe my experience can help some of you. My rheumy does not give any credibitliy to the effects of diet on RA, but I have been doing a little experimenting on my own. I fasted one day and since then I have eliminated dairy and wheat and I am trying to limit my intake of meat and fish. I am also adding a couple of tablespoons of flax seed to my food daily. I feel much better. I don't know if I can attribute this to my change in diet, but I believe it may be a factor and worth a try. It could also be that simultaneously the plaquenil has started to work. I am also practicing meditation which I believe helps. Here is an article from the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition with more info about diet and RA. http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/70/3/594S I believe it is best, if possible to get a doctor to help advise you about dietary changes. I am looking for additional guidance to make sure that I am receiving the nutrition I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 My rheumy does not give any credibitliy to the effects of diet on RA, > but I have been doing a little experimenting on my own. I fasted one > day and since then I have eliminated dairy and wheat and I am trying > to limit my intake of meat and fish. I am also adding a couple of > tablespoons of flax seed to my food daily. I feel much better. I > don't know if I can attribute this to my change in diet, but I > believe it may be a factor and worth a try. I know there is a lot of anecdotal evidence about a connection between food allergies and RA. I just gave up wheat this week and am surprised at how much of it I ate--it's even in my tamari soy sauce, which I use to season everything. I woke up this morning feeling better than I have in a couple of weeks. Like you, , I'm simply conducting a personal experiment. I may wake up tomorrow feeling worse than I ever have...there are so many ups and downs with RA. But it's interesting to explore. And if it helps,it's well worth the effort. Sierra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 I have done a lot of experimenting with my diet and have found that for me, diet makes a difference. I¹ve eliminated various items from my diet and have monitored my symptoms. Eliminating sugar, meat and dairy has helped. I have several articles on my website regarding diet and RA: http://rheumatoid.arthritis.freehosting.net/Diet.html a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Thank you to all of you who talked about your diet and RA. I will start keeping a diary of what I eat and try to work out any relationship between my diet and my flares. I tend to eat very well anyway - lost of fresh fruit and vegetables, very little wheat, little bread, little red meat, lots of nuts, no fried food or takeaway or frozen foods and very little processed foods. I think stress makes me flare more than anything actually. But, I do agree that food has a big impact. In fact my food intake has a huge impact on my mood as well. I must go sleep now, but it is so nice to read all your messages. Thank you - I am so glad I joined. Suzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Yes, stress is a huge factor for me as well. Love and peace to you yellow Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Bishop [mailto:jbirdak@...] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:14 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Diet and RA Suzie, I have found that, for me, diet does not seem to affect my RA. However, stress can cause a flare that will put me down for days until high doses of Prednisone gets it under control. Best wishes, Jay --- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " suzie " <suzward05@y...> wrote: > > Thank you to all of you who talked about your diet and RA. I will > start keeping a diary of what I eat and try to work out any > relationship between my diet and my flares. I tend to eat very well > anyway - lost of fresh fruit and vegetables, very little wheat, > little bread, little red meat, lots of nuts, no fried food or > takeaway or frozen foods and very little processed foods. > > I think stress makes me flare more than anything actually. But, I do > agree that food has a big impact. In fact my food intake has a huge > impact on my mood as well. > > I must go sleep now, but it is so nice to read all your messages. > Thank you - I am so glad I joined. > > Suzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Maggie http://www.4HockeyFans.com http://www.4FloridaHockey.com -----Original Message-----From: Zoom [mailto:zoom@...]Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:43 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA Yes, stress is a huge factor for me as well. Love and peace to you yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Meditation is good. Just taking a few moments to be in the quiet. Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! · later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! ) .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hello Jenni , Well mine allways been a good girl and great in school till the last year or so shes still great in school ! but no respect towoards others anymore , but I tended to beleive maybe some of the circle of friends shes gotten she wasnt raised that way , thats for sure . johnJenni <chaospearl@...> wrote: I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M Joyce, no it wasnt like this at all i was more relaxed with my parents and never sassed them or refussed my dirrections contionsuly ! im 40 yrs old i grew up in the 70s a pretty good time of what few memorries i remember ! hehe , thanks john Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 LOL Yeah I think it has a lot to do with the way you were raised and like the social atmosphere within the family and also your genetic makeup. People on my dad’s side are pretty sassy, while people on my mother’s are very calm. I grew up with both tendencies, but my parents taught us to be respectful, my father with the energy and sass of his heritage and my mother with the sometimes icy calm of hers. So they are both surprised when I speak my mind with a tangy, energetic, icy calm. LOL Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: Jenni [mailto:chaospearl@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:58 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Then you have those growing pains where everything hurts Everything is annoying Nobody understands (which they probably don’t) and everybody is stupid Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:22 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Hello Jenni , Well mine allways been a good girl and great in school till the last year or so shes still great in school ! but no respect towoards others anymore , but I tended to beleive maybe some of the circle of friends shes gotten she wasnt raised that way , thats for sure . john Jenni <chaospearl@...> wrote: I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Joyce, maybe I'm not much older than you are; I'm 77. I don't often run into people who remember the great depression and the lessons of thrift we had to learn while growing up. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Harold , Joyce , Ive often sit and listened to my grandfather tell me of this time and the hardships and my grandmother show us pictures from then and the stamps i think they where called ? that where required to purchass the limited quilities of certain items my grandfathers was 90 yrs old, Feb 12 ,05 and granny is 87 and me 40 and ive never heard a bad or foul word out of there mouth towards anyone ! and allways helped anyone in need ! TIMES HAVE CHANGED !! and the good old folks will never be forgotten by me ! thanks johnHarold Van Tuyl <hvantuyl@...> wrote: Joyce, maybe I'm not much older than you are; I'm 77. I don't often run into people who remember the great depression and the lessons of thrift we had to learn while growing up. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 thats it !! and if its not rational the only other word that fits ( SHUT UP ) ! which is suposeable just a habit ??? boy if she knew how hard it is to keep from using the old fasioned treatment in the suposed new ways eec better ways times sheeesh ! john Zoom <zoom@...> wrote: Then you have those growing pains where everything hurts Everything is annoying Nobody understands (which they probably don’t) and everybody is stupid Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message-----From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:22 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Hello Jenni , Well mine allways been a good girl and great in school till the last year or so shes still great in school ! but no respect towoards others anymore , but I tended to beleive maybe some of the circle of friends shes gotten she wasnt raised that way , thats for sure . johnJenni <chaospearl@...> wrote: I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Yes Yellow !! thats it !! and if its not rational the only other word that fits ( SHUT UP ) ! which is suposeable just a habit ??? boy if she knew how hard it is to keep from using the old fasioned treatment in the suposed new ways eec better ways times sheeesh ! john Zoom <zoom@...> wrote: Then you have those growing pains where everything hurts Everything is annoying Nobody understands (which they probably don’t) and everybody is stupid Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message-----From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:22 AMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Hello Jenni , Well mine allways been a good girl and great in school till the last year or so shes still great in school ! but no respect towoards others anymore , but I tended to beleive maybe some of the circle of friends shes gotten she wasnt raised that way , thats for sure . johnJenni <chaospearl@...> wrote: I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Harold, you are three years older than I am. I have pictures my Mother took when I was very young during the depression. Crops failed and in the back ground you could see plant stubbles and sand. Also have a couple of pictures of the sand storms blowing into West Texas from Kansas. We lived in West Texas at the time. Things were hard back then but I have good memories of those days.....Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Van Tuyl Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, maybe I'm not much older than you are; I'm 77. I don't often run into people who remember the great depression and the lessons of thrift we had to learn while growing up. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 , are you speaking of ration stamps during WW2? How well I remember those along with victory gardens. We may have been poor as dirt but those were some of my best years. Everyone was poor in those days.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Harold , Joyce , Ive often sit and listened to my grandfather tell me of this time and the hardships and my grandmother show us pictures from then and the stamps i think they where called ? that where required to purchass the limited quilities of certain items my grandfathers was 90 yrs old, Feb 12 ,05 and granny is 87 and me 40 and ive never heard a bad or foul word out of there mouth towards anyone ! and allways helped anyone in need ! TIMES HAVE CHANGED !! and the good old folks will never be forgotten by me ! thanks johnHarold Van Tuyl <hvantuyl@...> wrote: Joyce, maybe I'm not much older than you are; I'm 77. I don't often run into people who remember the great depression and the lessons of thrift we had to learn while growing up. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce McCrary Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA , Things wern't like this when you was growing up I don't imagine. I know it wasn't when I was growing up and I have a feeling I am much older than you. I grew up during the great depression and WW2. I never sassed my parents, not ever. I'd better get off this computer. It's thundering..........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce, thanks for writeing , i just dont remember things being like this when i grew up !! i guess they wasnt ? here in the hills i think change is hard ? thanks johnJoyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: , I know what you are going through is hard. I went through the same thing with my two youngest kids. I have read that what your daughter is going through is called "breaking away." It's can be hard to raise teenagers. I know this from experience. It does sound like you are under a lot of stress. Last April when I was in such stress my oldest son died. I had no idea stress would cause you to have so much pain. My youngest son is 44 yrs old with three teen age boys of his own and is going through now what he put me through when he was a teenager. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: john no_way Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:53 AM Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Joyce , Youre not kidding and my life is high stress ! ! Just cannot get it changed teenaged daughter with probs. that thinks shes boss ! demanding job ! sick mother ! and this crapy thing of my own ! LOL im sure every one bears there own how do you all deal with it ?? me just trying not to think about it doesnt help , daughter isnt willing to talk ? ( just shakeing head ) job i know will have to go soon i just cannt handle it no more like i did ! ! ! just seems like its all gone to pot ! later john ( and i still wasnt where we needed to be yet ! )Joyce McCrary <j.mccrary@...> wrote: Stress will just about do you in. I was in a lot of stress last April and had the worst RA flare up I ever had although I am having a bad one now. I hope to see my Dr tomorrow about a shot in my back. I also want him to do something with my left knee.........Joyce M ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA I agree...stress is a big factor for me and RA. In fact my symptoms started after my mom passed away. What I eat doesn't seem to make a difference....good thing cuz I'm the worse eater around! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Well, I remember those days. I was pretty hard to deal with, but I worked hard never to be disrespectful. Disrespect for my parents was disrespect for myself. But then you know what they say, ‘parents, don’t provoke your kids to anger.” If she’s turned into a totally different person, and it’s not because she had an episode or was abused in anyway, and she doesn’t seem to want to talk about it, I’d give her some space until she figures out her own hormones her needs, her desires and who loves her the most.(you!) It doesn’t help if you find yourself arguing with her because her change frustrates you. It would be better to kind of just let her sulk and try to ‘get it’. Nothing turned me off more at that age, than my father trying to change me or cheer me up. In fact, it made me feel as if men were the enemy… but those are my suggestions. You arent’ her enemy… she’ll remember how much you love her in say, oh, about 3 or 4 years! Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:00 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: Re: Diet and RA thats it !! and if its not rational the only other word that fits ( SHUT UP ) ! which is suposeable just a habit ??? boy if she knew how hard it is to keep from using the old fasioned treatment in the suposed new ways eec better ways times sheeesh ! john Zoom <zoom@...> wrote: Then you have those growing pains where everything hurts Everything is annoying Nobody understands (which they probably don’t) and everybody is stupid Improve it. Agitate. Promote freedom and justice. Educate and empower. Use your resources to reach those who have not been where you have been, nor seen what you have seen. In doing this we build a stronger nation. -----Original Message----- From: john no_way [mailto:kentuckycowboy1@...] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:22 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Re: Diet and RA Hello Jenni , Well mine allways been a good girl and great in school till the last year or so shes still great in school ! but no respect towoards others anymore , but I tended to beleive maybe some of the circle of friends shes gotten she wasnt raised that way , thats for sure . john Jenni <chaospearl@...> wrote: I think it has something to do with how you were raised, also... I'm a few months shy of 24 and I'd NEVER sass my mother. I can't even gently correct her when she says something blatantly wrong. I'd be eating soap quicker than you can say Ivory. Jenni Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Sue, Many feel that diet influences RA, including myself, I have RA. i just wish I knew exactly what to stop eating, etc. Unfortunately we will never have enough of the right information in our lifetime for this to be beneficial to most of us. The reason is simple, if all of us knew what and what not to eat to rid RA, that would be to big of a slam on the drug industry, and they of course would find a way with their power and money to keep this " RA cure " information from the general public. As the old saying goes, Doctors dont want to cure people, just find a way to keep us coming back. They dont want to be out of a job in more than we do. > Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to End > Our Nation's Secret Epidemic > by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker > > This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet influences > inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA and > diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet affects > diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize > carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet has a > great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I would > like to read this book just to see what he says. > > Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty acids, > and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his theories. > He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, along > with my endo and my rheumy. > > But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of you has > read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to have to > buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. > > If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The > Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 thankyou verymuch for the info. Sue <marysue@...> wrote:Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to End Our Nation's Secret Epidemic by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet influences inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA and diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet affects diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet has a great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I would like to read this book just to see what he says. Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty acids, and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his theories. He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, along with my endo and my rheumy. But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of you has read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to have to buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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