Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 And here I wondered if I was the only person that feels this way. I too feel diet influences RA. Just look at gluten intolerance and how it mimics RA!!! Now if grain products can mimic RA, why is it so unbelievable to so many that diet influences RA? Look at dairy intolerance and how many illnesses it causes! No one wants do do clinical trials on foods and nutrition because they make no money from it. Those that do these kinds of studies are labeled quacks!!! Doctors manage symptoms with drugs that cause other problems. I routinely post articles on nutrition and how it affects RA, so hopefully you'll get some ideas of what to stop eating and what to eat more of. Eliminating stress and doing exercises on a regular basis is also very important. a On May 23, 2005, at 5:26 AM, ju2346 wrote: > Sue, > Many feel that diet influences RA, including myself, I have > RA. i just wish I knew exactly what to stop eating, etc. > Unfortunately we will never have enough of the right information in > our lifetime for this to be beneficial to most of us. The reason is > simple, if all of us knew what and what not to eat to rid RA, that > would be to big of a slam on the drug industry, and they of course > would find a way with their power and money to keep this " RA cure " > information from the general public. As the old saying goes, Doctors > dont want to cure people, just find a way to keep us coming back. > They dont want to be out of a job in more than we do. > > > > > > > > > Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to > End > > Our Nation's Secret Epidemic > > by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker > > > > This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet > influences > > inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA and > > diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet affects > > diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize > > carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet > has a > > great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I would > > like to read this book just to see what he says. > > > > Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty > acids, > > and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his > theories. > > He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, > along > > with my endo and my rheumy. > > > > But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of you > has > > read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to have > to > > buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. > > > > If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The > > Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. > > > > Sue > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 What a pile of baloney. Feel free to believe that there are some magic mushrooms out there that can cure your disease. Feel free to believe that chanting can somehow cure this disease. But don't ever try and tell me, or this list, that the people in the medical and health professions are somehow conspiring to keep us sick. I challange you to utter that nonsense to your doctor's face. I have never, ever, met a doctor or a nurse or a pharmacist that wouldn't give their left leg to have a cure for this awful disease. Your comments are insulting. Please keep your paranoid rantings and X-files conspiracy theories to yourself. They have no place in a rational discussion of this illness and it's treatments. I am suffering with Rheumatoid arthritis and have been in pain for three years now but I want to think more positive than you. I know here in Ontario Canada, Doctors are compasionate and do want to find a cure. Corinne ju2346 wrote: > Sue, > Many feel that diet influences RA, including myself, I have > RA. i just wish I knew exactly what to stop eating, etc. > Unfortunately we will never have enough of the right information in > our lifetime for this to be beneficial to most of us. The reason is > simple, if all of us knew what and what not to eat to rid RA, that > would be to big of a slam on the drug industry, and they of course > would find a way with their power and money to keep this " RA cure " > information from the general public. As the old saying goes, Doctors > dont want to cure people, just find a way to keep us coming back. > They dont want to be out of a job in more than we do. > > > > > > > > > Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to > End > > Our Nation's Secret Epidemic > > by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker > > > > This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet > influences > > inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA and > > diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet affects > > diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize > > carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet > has a > > great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I would > > like to read this book just to see what he says. > > > > Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty > acids, > > and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his > theories. > > He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, > along > > with my endo and my rheumy. > > > > But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of you > has > > read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to have > to > > buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. > > > > If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The > > Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. > > > > Sue > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 Corinne, Thank God you have a compassionate and understanding Doctor. I never said that there is no such thing. Perhaps however you are the other extreme of what you are percieving me to be. Does it mean that because your experiences with medical professionals is limited to nothing but goodness and understanding, that incompetency and apathy doesn't exist in this profession? Of course not, I am sure you would agree there is the good and bad in ANY profession. And by the way, there is no need to get nasty just because someone doesn't agree with your " rose colored glasses " view toward all of this. (such as, " keep my comments to myself " , I have as much right to an opinion as you do) and by the way, I have had RA for 9 years, it would seem like that is considerably longer than you have dealt with it. I think we are both reasonably intelligent people, lets learn from each other, and stay away from comments like " thats baloney, or thats insulting " . Just because we have had opposite experiences with Doctors, does in no way lead me to call your opinions " baloney " . Pat > > > Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to > > End > > > Our Nation's Secret Epidemic > > > by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker > > > > > > This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet > > influences > > > inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA and > > > diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet affects > > > diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize > > > carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet > > has a > > > great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I would > > > like to read this book just to see what he says. > > > > > > Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty > > acids, > > > and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his > > theories. > > > He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, > > along > > > with my endo and my rheumy. > > > > > > But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of you > > has > > > read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to have > > to > > > buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. > > > > > > If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The > > > Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. > > > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 This group is for support to each other. I will not argue back and forth with you as I am very sick lately and don't need any extra stress. If your doctor/doctors are that bad that you feel they want you sick then maybe you should switch to a better one. But it was not only about you accusing doctors of wanting us to be sick, also the diet thing.....I am sure that if any doctor out there knew that we were eating something that was hurting us then we would be told about it. I sure am thankful for having the rheumatologist I have. ju2346 wrote: > Corinne, > Thank God you have a compassionate and understanding > Doctor. I never said that there is no such thing. Perhaps however you > are the other extreme of what you are percieving me to be. Does it > mean that because your experiences with medical professionals is > limited to nothing but goodness and understanding, that incompetency > and apathy doesn't exist in this profession? Of course not, I am sure > you would agree there is the good and bad in ANY profession. And by > the way, there is no need to get nasty just because someone doesn't > agree with your " rose colored glasses " view toward all of this. (such > as, " keep my comments to myself " , I have as much right to an opinion > as you do) and by the way, I have had RA for 9 years, it would seem > like that is considerably longer than you have dealt with it. I think > we are both reasonably intelligent people, lets learn from each > other, and stay away from comments like " thats baloney, or thats > insulting " . Just because we have had opposite experiences with > Doctors, does in no way lead me to call your opinions " baloney " . > Pat > > > > > > > > > Inflammation Nation : The First Clinically Proven Eating Plan to > > > End > > > > Our Nation's Secret Epidemic > > > > by Floyd H. Chilton, Tucker > > > > > > > > This is a book just published in 2005 that claims that diet > > > influences > > > > inflammation and is important in several diseases, including RA > and > > > > diabetes, both of which I have. I certainly know that diet > affects > > > > diabetes tremendously, because diabetics cannot metabolize > > > > carbohydrates sufficiently, but I tend to be skeptical that diet > > > has a > > > > great influence on RA. However, the idea is intriguing, and I > would > > > > like to read this book just to see what he says. > > > > > > > > Dr. Chilton is considered to be an expert in the field of fatty > > > acids, > > > > and he apparently has conducted clinical trials to prove his > > > theories. > > > > He is a professor at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, > > > along > > > > with my endo and my rheumy. > > > > > > > > But with all of his credentials, I remain skeptical. If any of > you > > > has > > > > read the book, please give us a book report. I don't want to > have > > > to > > > > buy it, but if I can find it in the library, I'll check it out. > > > > > > > > If you google " Inflammation Nation " you'll get lots of hits. The > > > > Amazon.com site has a portion of the first chapter available. > > > > > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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