Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 > Yes, I have done three flushes and feel okay then the > symptoms dcome back. I don't have my gall bladder any > more. And I think the average amount of stones in the > liver is something like 2000. I can't tell you to go > on, you'll have to make that decision for yourself. > Just remember, doctors don't know everything. > > KElly ****** , Do you mean you are doing flushes AFTER having GB out and having symptoms come back?? Thanks :-) L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Remember our military with your prayers and support! " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 > I am still having intermittent pain on my right side and it is pretty > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm wondering if maybe > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed about 250 stones or > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist for awhile after > doing the flushes. ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing that, personally. Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing again probably in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just enough symptoms to know that there is still work to be done. Funny how we want to be all better right away, but take years to get ourselves in the mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a good try before giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, too...it's human nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to encourage one another. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Remember our military with your prayers and support! " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 No I don't do chiropractic anymore. I go to a massage therapist who does an alignment technique that really works. Although I haven't gone for awhile. I guess I probably need to. I am feeling okay right now but usually after lunch is when it starts. I feel that I need to wait at least a month to do another flush because it really wipes my body out afterward. I guess I am going to have to make sure to eat healthy for awhile. It's just so difficult when you have to cook all the time and eating out is like walking through a mine field. You just never know what's going to set off the pain. Oh well, I guess I will just hang in there and hope that this gets better eventually and not worse. > > I am still having intermittent pain on my right side and it is pretty > > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm wondering if maybe > > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed about 250 stones or > > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist for awhile after > > doing the flushes. > > ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been > adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing that, personally. > Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing again probably > in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just enough symptoms > to know that there is still work to be done. Funny how we want > to be all better right away, but take years to get ourselves in the > mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a good try before > giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, too...it's human > nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to encourage one > another. > > L. Meydrech, CN > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes > http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > Remember our military with your prayers and support! > " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 , Find a chiropractor that does Applied Kinesiology and have them test you for food allergies/intolerances. That was the only way I found out what had caused the problem to begin with - 30 years of eating food that my body couldn't breakdown, and then my GB started screaming at me. The doctors will only try to treat symptoms, they don't know how to find the true cause/source of the problem to begin with. S Working No I don't do chiropractic anymore. I go to a massage therapist who does an alignment technique that really works. Although I haven't gone for awhile. I guess I probably need to. I am feeling okay right now but usually after lunch is when it starts. I feel that I need to wait at least a month to do another flush because it really wipes my body out afterward. I guess I am going to have to make sure to eat healthy for awhile. It's just so difficult when you have to cook all the time and eating out is like walking through a mine field. You just never know what's going to set off the pain. Oh well, I guess I will just hang in there and hope that this gets better eventually and not worse. > > I am still having intermittent pain on my right side and it is pretty > > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm wondering if maybe > > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed about 250 stones or > > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist for awhile after > > doing the flushes. > > ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been > adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing that, personally. > Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing again probably > in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just enough symptoms > to know that there is still work to be done. Funny how we want > to be all better right away, but take years to get ourselves in the > mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a good try before > giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, too...it's human > nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to encourage one > another. > > L. Meydrech, CN > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes > http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > Remember our military with your prayers and support! > " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 , Find a chiropractor that does Applied Kinesiology and have them test you for food allergies/intolerances. That was the only way I found out what had caused the problem to begin with - 30 years of eating food that my body couldn't breakdown, and then my GB started screaming at me. The doctors will only try to treat symptoms, they don't know how to find the true cause/source of the problem to begin with. S Working No I don't do chiropractic anymore. I go to a massage therapist who does an alignment technique that really works. Although I haven't gone for awhile. I guess I probably need to. I am feeling okay right now but usually after lunch is when it starts. I feel that I need to wait at least a month to do another flush because it really wipes my body out afterward. I guess I am going to have to make sure to eat healthy for awhile. It's just so difficult when you have to cook all the time and eating out is like walking through a mine field. You just never know what's going to set off the pain. Oh well, I guess I will just hang in there and hope that this gets better eventually and not worse. > > I am still having intermittent pain on my right side and it is pretty > > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm wondering if maybe > > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed about 250 stones or > > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist for awhile after > > doing the flushes. > > ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been > adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing that, personally. > Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing again probably > in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just enough symptoms > to know that there is still work to be done. Funny how we want > to be all better right away, but take years to get ourselves in the > mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a good try before > giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, too...it's human > nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to encourage one > another. > > L. Meydrech, CN > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes > http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > Remember our military with your prayers and support! > " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 kelly there is a remedy for ulvers which is potato juice on an empty stomach in the morning i think also cabbage juice try looking it up in a juicing book you might try buttermilk or homemade yogurt too to help coat your intestines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 > there is a remedy for ulvers which is potato juice on an empty stomach in > the morning Aloe Vera Juice is also a wonderful contact healer :-) L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Remember our military with your prayers and support! " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 Thanks Suzanne, I have been meaning to get up to see here again. I actually have an acupuncturist that does the kinesiology and also does allergy clearing. In 2000 I was diagnosed with asthma and told to get rid of my cats( then 11 years and 8). I have had them both since they were kittens. Needless to say I wasn't willing to give up my cats but I couldn't hardly breathe in my own home. So my massage therapist referred me to her and she actually cleared the allergy. They don't bother me anymore unless they rub there fur in my face. She has also cleared me of hayfever, dust, molds and a variety of food allergies. I am beginnig to think I am allergic to wheat which isn't surprising since I have eaten so much of it in my life. So I am feeling better since I've backed off the wheat. I just have to be patient and see what needs to be done next. > > > I am still having intermittent pain on my right > side and it is > pretty > > > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm > wondering if > maybe > > > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed > about 250 > stones or > > > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist > for awhile > after > > > doing the flushes. > > > > ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been > > adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing > that, > personally. > > Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing > again probably > > in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just > enough symptoms > > to know that there is still work to be done. Funny > how we want > > to be all better right away, but take years to get > ourselves in the > > mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a > good try before > > giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, > too...it's human > > nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to > encourage one > > another. > > > > L. Meydrech, CN > > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My > Flushes > > http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech > > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > > Remember our military with your prayers and support! > > " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 , Funny you should mention wheat - that was the culprit with me! I grew up on a farm, so you can imagine the wheat/wheat products I've ingested over the past 30 yrs... I've cut it out of my diet completely and it made a huge difference. (Wheat & modified food starch - which can be wheat unless specified). There are a ton of products with wheat and modified food starch in addition to just the obvious ones, (i.e. puddings, candy, cake, cookies, snacks, gravies, thickeners, pies, etc...) so read ingredients carefully. I also cut out gluten, too. SW Thanks Suzanne, I have been meaning to get up to see here again. I actually have an acupuncturist that does the kinesiology and also does allergy clearing. In 2000 I was diagnosed with asthma and told to get rid of my cats( then 11 years and 8). I have had them both since they were kittens. Needless to say I wasn't willing to give up my cats but I couldn't hardly breathe in my own home. So my massage therapist referred me to her and she actually cleared the allergy. They don't bother me anymore unless they rub there fur in my face. She has also cleared me of hayfever, dust, molds and a variety of food allergies. I am beginnig to think I am allergic to wheat which isn't surprising since I have eaten so much of it in my life. So I am feeling better since I've backed off the wheat. I just have to be patient and see what needs to be done next. > > > I am still having intermittent pain on my right > side and it is > pretty > > > annoying. I have done two flushes and I guess I'm > wondering if > maybe > > > I should be feeling better by now. I have passed > about 250 > stones or > > > so I think. Has anyone else had symptoms persist > for awhile > after > > > doing the flushes. > > > > ..Do you go to a chiropractor and have you been > > adjusted since your flush? I am really " into " doing > that, > personally. > > Yes, I am right there with you...will be flushing > again probably > > in April, but am improved, no severe pain, just > enough symptoms > > to know that there is still work to be done. Funny > how we want > > to be all better right away, but take years to get > ourselves in the > > mess we are in :-) Hang in there, give flushing a > good try before > > giving up...I am sometimes tempted to give up, > too...it's human > > nature, but that's why it's neat to have this list to > encourage one > > another. > > > > L. Meydrech, CN > > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My > Flushes > > http://www.mynsp.com/meydrech > > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > > Remember our military with your prayers and support! > > " God bless America....Stand beside us, and guide us " > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sherrie, Tell your Dr the Methadone doesn't work and you need something else to relieve it. It is your pain and your life being affected, don't let them shine you on. Best wishes, Jay > > I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of > pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg of > methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be working > is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I'm on Remicade and Methotrexate and pretty well controlled. However, it took about 6 months from the time I started Remicade till we increased the dose enough for it to become effective for me. During that time I was on Prednisone, starting at 40 mg daily and tapering whenever I could. Once we finally got the Remicade dose right it didn't take long to get completely off Prednisone. I suggest trying Prednisone to see if that will help you. It might take a fairly high dose at first to get things manageable. God bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: scorn720 Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: still having pain I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg of methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be working is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi there, I am also on remicade and have been having infusions every 8 weeks for almost a year. I have been flaring badly recently and had an infusion last week of remicade. It helped with my fatigue, giving me more energy, but it is yet to help with pain. I am still in agony every day and think that I just have to ride out the pain of the flare. I am not on methodone or anything like that - as I have to continue working and couldnt on pain killers. In fact I dont take any pain killers as they dont work for me. I think you should speak to your Specialist about trying a different pain killer if methodone is not helping. It is a very potent drug to be putting in your body if it is not giving you any relief. Hang in there, Suziescorn720 <scorn720@...> wrote: I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg of methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be working is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 > Harlod i am on 10mg of prednisone a day and it doesn't help I have been on prednisone for about 10 to 15 years now I go up and down all the time it help when I go up but I cann't stay up all the time I would look like a baloon and I don't want to look like that SherrieI'm on Remicade and Methotrexate and pretty well controlled. However, it took about 6 months from the time I started Remicade till we increased the dose enough for it to become effective for me. During that time I was on Prednisone, starting at 40 mg daily and tapering whenever I could. Once we finally got the Remicade dose right it didn't take long to get completely off Prednisone. I suggest trying Prednisone to see if that will help you. It might take a fairly high dose at first to get things manageable. God bless. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scorn720 > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:44 AM > Subject: still having pain > > > > I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of > pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg of > methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be working > is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 thanks for all the help i go into see my pain doctor next month and will ask him about a dtornger med for pain Sherrie > > Harlod i am on 10mg of prednisone a day and it doesn't help I have > been on prednisone for about 10 to 15 years now I go up and down all > the time it help when I go up but I cann't stay up all the time I > would look like a baloon and I don't want to look like that > SherrieI'm on Remicade and Methotrexate and pretty well controlled. > However, it took about 6 months from the time I started Remicade > till we increased the dose enough for it to become effective for > me. During that time I was on Prednisone, starting at 40 mg daily > and tapering whenever I could. Once we finally got the Remicade > dose right it didn't take long to get completely off Prednisone. I > suggest trying Prednisone to see if that will help you. It might > take a fairly high dose at first to get things manageable. God > bless. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: scorn720 > > Rheumatoid Arthritis > > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:44 AM > > Subject: still having pain > > > > > > > > I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of > > pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg > of > > methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be > working > > is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 I went to my pain doctod the other day and he upped my methadone to 40 mg and then I saw my RA doctor and he upped my remmicaide to every 4 weeked to see if that will help I sure hope it does some good he also injested my bad joints and that did help I slept last nignth of the first time in a long while it really felt good to be able to sleep for a change have a good day all I hope I do good lucl to all thanks for the adivice and all the heop I am glad I found this group it really helps thanks again Sherrie > I'm on Remicade and Methotrexate and pretty well controlled. However, it took about 6 months from the time I started Remicade till we increased the dose enough for it to become effective for me. During that time I was on Prednisone, starting at 40 mg daily and tapering whenever I could. Once we finally got the Remicade dose right it didn't take long to get completely off Prednisone. I suggest trying Prednisone to see if that will help you. It might take a fairly high dose at first to get things manageable. God bless. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scorn720 > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:44 AM > Subject: still having pain > > > > I just got my remicade injection and I am still having a lot of > pain is there anything else I can do for the pain I am on 30mg of > methadone every 6 hours for pain but it doesn't seem to be working > is there anything I can do for pain and akes Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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