Re:My Daughter

[Guest guest]

To everyone out there, I need your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

My 13 year old daughter has been on the diet since Sept., I believe. She has celiac disease, a thyroid condition, and an overgrowth of bacteria in her small intestine.

Lately, at times, she has alot of pain and poops a ton. It happens maybe once every 2 days. She also had some diarrhea a few times in the last week, which is very unusual for her. I think it was a supplement that we now stopped and I think it was butter, eggs in a recipe for Thanksgiving, that she really shouldn't have due to her food intolerance. The pain she says is bad enough to go to the ER but she's never said "let's go" and we haven't gone to the er.

Here's her usual diet in the day, plus all of her supplements.:

pancakes made from ground nuts, honey that is fine, and fruit

meat, vegetable, fruit for lunch and supper.

I just can't figure out what is causing this. If anyone has any idea, please let me know.

Marla

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:11:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: cocoa butter

At 01:40 AM 11/29/2008, you wrote:

I spent last evening reading through Elaine Gottschalls answers to SCD-eaters. She seems to have been a fiesty woman! I am confused about starch. I tried butternut squash again and it turned my guts into concrete again. I looked it up on the net and it is a very starchy vegetable. Why is it allowed on the SCD diet when sweet potatoes are not? This is a queston I would like to ask.

— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

>

> To everyone out there, I need your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

> My 13 year old daughter has been on the diet since Sept., I

believe. She has celiac disease, a thyroid condition, and an

overgrowth of bacteria in her small intestine.

> Lately, at times, she has alot of pain and poops a ton. It happens

maybe once every 2 days. She also had some diarrhea a few times in

the last week, which is very unusual for her. > Marla

Hi Marla,

I take Levothroid (thyroid medication) for hypothyroidism. Since I

started the diet in mid August of this year, I've had to reduce my

dosage from 100mcg down to 62.5 mcg. I believe this is because as my

gut heals, it's absorbing more of my medication, so I need less.

Diarrhea is a symptom of taking too much thyroid medication.

Shortness of breath, irritability, anxiety, insomnia, and sometimes

depression are also symptoms of too much medication. It may be worth

it to have her TSH tested and see if she needs to reduce her dosage

of thyroid medication.

-

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does she have a fever? Is she vomiting? Any mucous or blood in stool?

Is stool watery? Is she having chills at all?

Have you spoken to a GI about her symptoms?

With that said- if the pain is really bad is slowly getting worse and

worse go to the ER.

About trying to find the culprit;

Food wise; go intro.. Review all supplements. Post it here and

people can share experiences etc.

Sometimes probiotics can make us worse when we are unwell.

Keep nuts out of diet for a bit and see how she feels. Nuts can

exacerbate symptoms many times.

Also, is she drinking juice? What kind and are you diluting it really

well? Sadly, non diluted juice can cause major D when we are still

healing.. It bums me out as I love drinking juice straight up- I

consider it one of the ultimate pleasures!

The suggestion about the thyroid medication is right on- I got a lot

of D when adjusting thyroid meds.

Hang in there and keep us posted about how she is doing!!

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

>

As of last night, my husband and I are at the end of our ropes with all of

this.  She's

>having a real bad week with her stomach.  She's never had diarrhea before so

this is

>really concerning >me.  And then when she has D, her anxiety goes over the top.

She

>went for 1 hour to school >today for the first time all school year.  But if

she has D, she'll

>never be able to go.  I still >need help out there.  Does anyone have

suggestions?

At a guess, it's stress induced, from knowing she had to go to school. As it

seemed to

start just days before you had arranged to send her. And then it just feeds on

itself,

creating deeper stress when she has to deal with D as well.

And in the end, that cycle is going to get her what she wants, which is not to

go to school

and to make you take her off the diet, which you mentioned earlier that she

dislikes and

that she can clearly sense you are deeply frustrated with. So, on that level,

the cycle is

" working " for her.

You do realize that people who jump into the diet without going through the

intro diet

and early stages are more likely to find it unsuccessful than people who start

at the

beginning and give it a proper try?

That said, you really ought to try the bone broths and the chicken soups that

are cooked

for several hours. They are the best things for healing ill, anxious stomachs

as they

contain many minerals that help in healing including glucasomine and are

naturally anti-

inflammatory.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Hey Marla,

I think Celcila really gave you some good info and also showed you

just how individual this process really is! Makes me want to pull my

hair out sometimes... But really it is the best way to learn what we

can tolerate and get better.

I was wondering on a different note why do you think your daughter is

so anxiety ridden about going back to school? Do you think there are

multiple reasons for this?

I know when I first got really sick I had a horrible time at school.

It was such a socially awkward age.. Throw on top of that needing to

poop at school I would get terrible anxiety. I would hold it in, I

would cut class just to find a " solitary " toilet. And this is just

the aspects of dealing with the illness not even talking about other

things..

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

Hey Marla,

I certainly understand you being depressed and feeling upset about all

of this. There is so much data about the triggers of stress and the

hormones it releases. What your daughter is going through is very

real.. It's not just all in her head- I am not saying you are saying

that!! I would think finding some of the reasons why she is so

fearful in the first place and perhaps doing some energy bio-feedback

to help calm her.

As for the soup:

The soup needs to cook for four hours!! A slow rolling boil is best.

All chicken parts (I like drum sticks) and carrots are permitted. I

also load it up with sea salt. It is important that you buy the big

carrots and not baby carrots. After the soup is done cooking take the

carrots out and puree them and add back to soup. I also find that

adding a marrow bone to the broth really enriches it! No onions,

celery or parsely is permitted at this point. It seems long and

arduous but it will be over soon!!

She can eat broiled meat patties like turkey, beef and even some

broiled fish is she can tolerate that.

Apple Cider is good too (Elaine permitted store bought fresh apple

cider the opaque one that goes bad- not the one that sits on the shelf.)

Since dairy is a problem for her I would also suggest you read GAPS by

Dr Natasha McBride. It stands for " Gut and Psychology

Syndrome " . This book is beyond enlightening. It basically is SCD

with some differences as NCM comes from the perspective of the Autism

world- she allows bifidus in the diet (which is SCD/Elaine illegal)

and she also focuses on lifestyle and green living. Don't worry about

those things- the reason this book is so enlightening as it actually

describes how we get to this diseased state and how it effects us also

mentally and it really maps out how all of this stuff is inter-connected.

She also talks about dairy sensitivity and therefor doesn't allow

dairy first 6 months on diet. She does however allow Ghee which is

clarified butter. All of these ideas are things PecanBread discusses

as well.. The thing is one has to kind of scratch the surface of PB

to get this data. Therefor in GAPS it is right in front of us. Ghee

is very delicious and satiating. Also, she has a protocol for adding

eggs back into diet.. So perhaps after the couple of days you can

look into ghee.. As this will help her feel satiated.

So there are options and it takes some work..

I don't know how anti your daughter will be about this intro diet.

Perhaps there is a way that you focus on this diet and explain to her

so no emergencies will happen with her health- as her health is the

most important things! In order to get out of this maybe school

shouldn't be the focus -right now- so she won't feel pressured and

stressed about it. The stress is really bad for her and all of you!

I know this seems like giving into her but I think maybe then you can

explore what is driving her anxiety about school..

Good luck.. It's not easy and is very trying..

I feel for you as I know how difficult it is with myself. I cannot

imagine what it is to go through with a kid. Many of us have been

there and also through this roller coaster.. this diet does work it

just takes time and patience.

Hang in and be strong!!

And ask as many questions as you need to..

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

Good Morning,

I have been reading your posts and I wanted to share my experiences

with you. I am a very anxious person and have suffered from " stomach

problems " since I was very little. When I get nervous I get stomach

pains and then it turns into bad intestinal cramps and diarrhea. The

problem with this is that I tend to be very constipated, so the

diarrhea can't get out. This causes incredible pain. I remember

sitting on the toilet and sobbing, I must have been about 8 or 9

years old. As a young woman I frightened my new husband by crying out

in pain on the toilet, desperately trying to move my bowels. I have

ended up in the emergency room because of the pain once or twice in

my life. The doctors can find nothing physically wrong with me, they

suspect IBS. IBS is a functional problem, the intestines are too

sensitive, and foods that other people can eat cause the intestines

to spasm. Being nervous make the intestines spasm too. This is very

painful. I don't know if your daughter has had accidents, but I have

had several very embarrassing accidents at parties before SCD. I have

become a shy person.

SCD works really well for me, BUT I cannot eat several legal SCD

foods because of my IBS issues. I don't digest fatty foods properly

so peanut butter, cheese, and fatty meats are out. I can't tolerate

very much vinegar, raisins, honey, or spicy foods. Each person's

trigger foods are unique. SCD works for me because additives and

preservatives mess me up terribly. Spearmint tea is soothing, so is a

heating pad. Just be sure to have your daughter not be constipated,

as long as her bowels are regular the pain is much less. I still am

an anxious person; I cope with this by being as prepared for

situations as possible. At school I would always have my work done.

Now that I am done with college and facing a new career I feel a need

to over prepare and stay 100% SCD.

My best friend has a teenage daughter that was unable to attend

school for about a year. This young lady felt that everyone was

looking at her to judge and make comparisons. She developed

intestinal migraines that made her throw up several times in a row

several times a day. She had to walk around with a bowl. It was

really bad there for awhile. She is feeling better now and is back in

school. I know that her and her mom went to counseling for a time to

work on the anxiety issues.

You are a wonderful caring parent. Hang in there and try not to worry

yourself sick. {{{HUGS}}}

Ana Karina

lactose/gluten intolerant/IBS-C

SCD since 2006

[Guest guest]

>I can tell you are really upset that your daughter is missing

school. I am a homeschooling mother of 6, and maybe you could take

you daughter out of school this year, and teach her at home. There

are several wonderful computer based programs like Switched on

Schoolhouse for grades 3 through 12. They are easy to manage, and are

very easy for the parent. My 15, and 17 year olds use this. There is

also distance programs that send you all the books and tests, which

you send back to them to grade. There are even video schools from BJU

that are like going to school from home, because you watch the

teacher. I do not know if this is an option for you, but if you are

interested in knowing more I would gladly help you get started. It

might at least relieve your stress, so you could concentrate on her

healing. Just a suggestion. Hang in there....

> Ana and others who have said I'm a good parent for pursuing answers

for my daughter-

> I'm in tears as I write this.  I'm very weepy today but I just

wanted you all to know how much it means to me that you would email

me back and to give me encouragement.  Everyone is so busy these days

with life and it just touched me that you people out there care

enough to respond to my emails.  This has been a long road. I've shed

tons of tears and I'm just very upset today with all of this.  She

finally starts to make baby steps this week to get back to school and

she has a flare. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!  I know there's a reason for

everything and I guess this is stretching my faith plus Rach will be

a stronger adult someday because of this.  Maybe she'll become a

nutritionist or a doctor and help others.  Who knows?  It's just hard

when you are going thru a trial and are in the midst of it.  I'm a

born again Christian  and the Lord is definitely giving me the

strength and sustaining me thru all of this. 

> so anyway, thanks again for the encouraging words.  They mean so

much to me right now.

> Marla

>

>  

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 11:47:24 AM

> Subject: Re:My Daughter

>

>

> Good Morning,

> I have been reading your posts and I wanted to share my experiences

> with you. I am a very anxious person and have suffered

from " stomach

> problems " since I was very little. When I get nervous I get stomach

> pains and then it turns into bad intestinal cramps and diarrhea.

The

> problem with this is that I tend to be very constipated, so the

> diarrhea can't get out. This causes incredible pain. I remember

> sitting on the toilet and sobbing, I must have been about 8 or 9

> years old. As a young woman I frightened my new husband by crying

out

> in pain on the toilet, desperately trying to move my bowels. I have

> ended up in the emergency room because of the pain once or twice in

> my life. The doctors can find nothing physically wrong with me,

they

> suspect IBS. IBS is a functional problem, the intestines are too

> sensitive, and foods that other people can eat cause the intestines

> to spasm. Being nervous make the intestines spasm too. This is very

> painful. I don't know if your daughter has had accidents, but I

have

> had several very embarrassing accidents at parties before SCD. I

have

> become a shy person.

> SCD works really well for me, BUT I cannot eat several legal SCD

> foods because of my IBS issues. I don't digest fatty foods properly

> so peanut butter, cheese, and fatty meats are out. I can't tolerate

> very much vinegar, raisins, honey, or spicy foods. Each person's

> trigger foods are unique. SCD works for me because additives and

> preservatives mess me up terribly. Spearmint tea is soothing, so is

a

> heating pad. Just be sure to have your daughter not be constipated,

> as long as her bowels are regular the pain is much less. I still am

> an anxious person; I cope with this by being as prepared for

> situations as possible. At school I would always have my work done.

> Now that I am done with college and facing a new career I feel a

need

> to over prepare and stay 100% SCD.

> My best friend has a teenage daughter that was unable to attend

> school for about a year. This young lady felt that everyone was

> looking at her to judge and make comparisons. She developed

> intestinal migraines that made her throw up several times in a row

> several times a day. She had to walk around with a bowl. It was

> really bad there for awhile. She is feeling better now and is back

in

> school. I know that her and her mom went to counseling for a time

to

> work on the anxiety issues.

> You are a wonderful caring parent. Hang in there and try not to

worry

> yourself sick. {{{HUGS}}}

>

> Ana Karina

> lactose/gluten intolerant/IBS- C

> SCD since 2006

>

[Guest guest]

I love it when Marilyn flies in and waves her magic wand and injects

wicked wit with a spicy sense of humor and a dollop of SCD legality!!

Marilyn to the rescue any day.. every day!! Woohoo!

Klingon is doing you good!!

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

Hi again,

Just some more thoughts. Since your daughter is 13, she should be more

involved in her health and recovery. Have her look at the

http://pecanbread.com/ website and have her plan her menus. The

pecanbread website has great information on why the diet works, what to

expect, and very nice recipes. http://nomorecrohns.com/default.aspx

also has a lot of information and SCD family friendly recipes. The more

choices and control she has, the better she will respond, in my opinion.

With love,

Ana Karina

[Guest guest]

Hey Marla,

I understand your frustration about your nutritionist. I have gone to

a couple of docs that -prescribe- the SCD and yet give illegal

supplements, allow store bought yogurt and a whole roster of other

things that make me morph into a cartoon character with my jaw

completely on the floor in shock and I'm like " huh, what are you guys

doing?? " This completely baffles me!

I had to learn and educate myself with a lot of help from SCD folks

online, getting some books from amazon and doing inter-library loans.

I also realized that doctors and health practitioners are a necessary

evil (some of them will and can kill you) I have various health

problems so I go quite a few docs and it amazes me over and over how

NONE of them ever communicate with each other. So inefficient!! The

only time different docs will talk about a patient is in a hospital

situation and even then it's pathetic.

I look at it like being a puzzle- going to get medical info like

testing or ideas from my docs about my particular ailments- getting a

piece that way. Inquiring online with fellow SCD'ers- is another

piece (incredible how there is -always- someone who has gone through

the issue I am looking into and I get a lot of guidance and usually it

is off-list and spot on- as they have done much groundwork and

understand sensitivities and bowel issues- but we are all different so

I take it as a guide like a story board.) I also have learned about

legal supplements from various sources too..

If money permits there is always Pharmacy compounding so it can be SCD

compliant. Some things including prescription meds and supplements

can be made with no illegals whatsoever. Some in liquid form too!

This takes time and research but it is so worth it!!

I think it is fair to say that all of us have made many many mistakes

on the diet- (I make so many, not as much as I used to but my

goodness..) it's frustrating having that realization and echoing " you

mean to say all of this time I was trying so hard and this crept in? "

It drives me crazy too.. I try to focus onwards and not make that

mistake again... I once screamed into my pillow after totally

screwing up on nutmilk making..

It takes time and everyone is so different.. I just read about a guy

that has been on the diet for 8 months and is completely symptom free,

working, eating many many things.. and some people need more than a

couple of years to see that.. Some have functional issues like Kim M

(she has Sphincter of the Oddi) and she has to be super vigilant after

5 years on the diet. So it varies.

Stay super strong!!

It's totally ok to vent.. I know I have..

I don't think you should worry about being judged as many of us have

made the mistake of taking something with illegals when we were

starting out.. Being honest really helps shine a light on our

ignorance and the errors we make so we can correct them and get on

with healing!!

I don't know how old you daughter is.. but maybe having her read some

posts can help her too.. Realize she isn't the only one going through

this..

Big supportive ((((hugs))))

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

Hi Marla,

I just wanted to clarify that much of the support happen on-list it's

just when it veers off-topic and into lots and lots of details much of

that happens off-list!

Err, thought I had to throw that out there..

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

fish yes meats are but cooked apples are stage 1

eileen scd 10 months

>

> ARe cooked apples and fish ok on intro diet?

> Marla

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 1:29:15 AM

> Subject: Re: Re:My Daughter

>

>

> >The pancakes are the ones in the book. Midas gold ones I think. I

use

> >ground nuts.

> As far as fruits, she eats grapes, bananas, apples, pears. -

uncooked.

> Sometimes baked apples. Always applesauce with her supplements.

> Meats- chicken, hamburger, pork chops, steak,

> the chicken is antibiotic, etc. free.

> veggies, - carrots, green beans, zucchini, ( I season things with

green

> pepper and onions)- all cooked.<

>

> Hi Marla!

>

> Some suggestions from me:

>

> peel apples and pears and cook them semi-soft in an open pan with

some

> coconut oil

> don't eat grapes for awhile and re-introduce later (and peel them

first)

> Avoid pork for a week or so and then re-introduce but see how it

makes her

> feel

> If you are using fresh green peppers (bell peppers) use red bell

peppers or

> yellow ones (they are ripe)

> If you are using green peppercorns, try skipping that awhile,

peppercorns

> can irritate the bowels

> Also as you are not eating fish, find a good supplement of fishoil,

or

> sealoil.

> Fatty fish is really important!

>

> Cecilia

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marla,

Broiled fish is fine..

As for the apples..

It seems like apple sauce is ok for her to take meds.. Is this store

bought apple sauce or home-made?

I would wait for Marilyn to answer that one- since your daughter can't

do dairy or the eggs.

I had to do a different INTRO too, I couldn't tolerate carrots and the

juices. What are the foods your daughter does tolerate well? Maybe

you can list those for Marilyn. It is confusing as the intro that is

outlined in BTVC is specific but we learn that people have to tweak

the intro according to his or her own needs. It gets confusing but

with some of the old timers advice like the moderators they can help

with this sort of thing.

Jodi

SCD 14 months

Crohn's/Colitis

[Guest guest]

Hi Marla,

Inositol is illegal.

Elaine writes:

>Inositol is a sugar alcohol. Sugar alcohols will>feed bacteria and that is something we do not want to do. Sugar alcohols generally cause diarrhea but >small amounts in supplements are ok - Elaine

A very important resource as you start to learn how important reading each and every label you can find is the "legal/illegal" list on the BTVC website.

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm

I exported the list into an Excel sheet and took that shopping with me for several months when starting the diet. It's pretty comprehensive and you'll find a number of the ingredients in the supplements listed there.

Also, as others have suggested, it really is important to start with the super easy-to-digest foods first, and really cook fruits and veggies to death. You're essentially helping "pre-digest" the food so the intestine can rest and heal itself. I think of it as the intestine of a newborn baby. You wouldn't give a raw carrot to a baby for more than a year, so try to think of your daughter's intestine as a newborn's. Soft, pureed food first. Add new mushy things next. Not exciting, but I do think you'll see improvement if you take the steps of eliminating the illegals and revisiting the types of legal foods she's eating.

Also - for pancakes, you might want to try almond butter first, rather than ground nuts. The butters are easier to digest and many people can start those before the flours or ground nuts. Although - peanut butter is often problematic for some people even several months into the diet.

Stay strong - give it another try - and we're all here rooting for you and your daughter.

KathyUC since 12/05SCD since 7/07med-free since 7/08

>inositol

[Guest guest]

don't panic - i'm almost 5' 4 in and 95-96 lbs - almost back to the

real me - always been 98-100 - i felt gross at 83 before scd - but it

helps after you heal :-)weight will come

hang in

eileen

> >

> > someone heard me talking about Rach and this diet and this woman

said that

> > her sister had done something similar. She said she used to be

plump and

> > then went on a similar diet and she got to where she looked like

a Holocaust

> > survivor. That freaked me out a bit.

>

> Ignore her.

>

> > But all that to say - What can she eat that won't let her lose a

ton of

> > weight? She can't afford to lose anymore. She's 13 years old, 5

foot, and

> > 106 pounds.

>

> That's not crazy skinny. Nothing to worry about. I know adult

women

> that weigh less than that.

>

> > She can't have dairy. That's her food intolerance. So on this

intro she's

> > eating chicken, chicken broth, carrots, jello and hamburger

patties.

>

> What's in the jello? I recommend grinding your own beef vs. store

> bought hamburger.

>

> > A few more days of this and then we will start Phase 1 of the

diet which I

> > think adds some fruits and veggies. But, is this enough? Is she

getting

> > fat?

>

> She'll be fine.

>

> > I guess I also want to make sure this is a very healthy diet. I

guess I know

> > it is, compared to what other teens eat on a daily basis. But is

she getting

> > enough nutrients?

>

> Absolutely. Think about it -- there are only a two things she can't

> eat: di- and polysaccharides :-)

>

> It's a matter of unlearning old dietary habits, which is actually

> harder than learning new ones. I'd be lying if I said I don't crave

> bagels, pizza, pasta and an occasional brownie but considering the

> downside it's an easy decision to make.

>

> > Anyway, let me know what you all think of my latest worry.

> > If I survive parenthood, it will be a

miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> As has been mentioned, get her involved. How about getting her on

the

> e-mail list for support?

>

> --

> Cheers,

> DF in MA

> UC June '07

> SCD Nov '08

>

[Guest guest]

I second the " don't panic " . I am 5 foot 8 1/2 inches tall and at my sickest

weighed 113,

but still only wore a 2 or 4 sized pant. Skinny, yes, but not so pathetic that

i looked like a

walking dead person. After I began to tolerate almond bread/muffins and more

fruit, I

gained weight very well. It took me a year to get where I am now, which is at

130, but the

weight does come back once the body begins to heal.

UC 2003

Crohn's 2007

Remicade

SCD 11 months

> > >

> > > someone heard me talking about Rach and this diet and this woman

> said that

> > > her sister had done something similar. She said she used to be

> plump and

> > > then went on a similar diet and she got to where she looked like

> a Holocaust

> > > survivor. That freaked me out a bit.

> >

> > Ignore her.

> >

> > > But all that to say - What can she eat that won't let her lose a

> ton of

> > > weight? She can't afford to lose anymore. She's 13 years old, 5

> foot, and

> > > 106 pounds.

> >

> > That's not crazy skinny. Nothing to worry about. I know adult

> women

> > that weigh less than that.

> >

> > > She can't have dairy. That's her food intolerance. So on this

> intro she's

> > > eating chicken, chicken broth, carrots, jello and hamburger

> patties.

> >

> > What's in the jello? I recommend grinding your own beef vs. store

> > bought hamburger.

> >

> > > A few more days of this and then we will start Phase 1 of the

> diet which I

> > > think adds some fruits and veggies. But, is this enough? Is she

> getting

> > > fat?

> >

> > She'll be fine.

> >

> > > I guess I also want to make sure this is a very healthy diet. I

> guess I know

> > > it is, compared to what other teens eat on a daily basis. But is

> she getting

> > > enough nutrients?

> >

> > Absolutely. Think about it -- there are only a two things she can't

> > eat: di- and polysaccharides :-)

> >

> > It's a matter of unlearning old dietary habits, which is actually

> > harder than learning new ones. I'd be lying if I said I don't crave

> > bagels, pizza, pasta and an occasional brownie but considering the

> > downside it's an easy decision to make.

> >

> > > Anyway, let me know what you all think of my latest worry.

> > > If I survive parenthood, it will be a

> miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > As has been mentioned, get her involved. How about getting her on

> the

> > e-mail list for support?

> >

> > --

> > Cheers,

> > DF in MA

> > UC June '07

> > SCD Nov '08

> >

>