Re: Can the 80:20 rule apply to the SCD Diet?

[Guest guest]

Hi Oliver. After following the diet for a year or two, I decided that I would adhere perfectly during the week and would have some illegals on the weekends. This worked okay for me for a while. But it wasn't too long before I noticed that there were some things I ate that made me sick for a very long time. Then I found that the symptoms just weren't worth the pleasure of eating certain foods. I very rarely miss illegal foods now. There may be some foods that you can have on occasion after you've been on the diet strictly for a year or two or even longer. I've been on the diet for more than 7 years. I can eat potatoes with no problems whatsoever. But I never, ever eat grain products. I'm allergic to them and the after-effects are just too unpleasant. I do have a small amount of chocolate on special occasions, too. All of this to say that you may be fortunate enough to eat some illegals well into the future. But, fortunately, you will find that you don't pine for them much at all. When I started the diet, the only thing that kept me going was the thought that I could eat my favorites. So I understand! But nothing tastes as good as feeling well feels!

Blessings!Mel

Hi all,

I have an SCD question. A little bit about my condition before the

question: I have only recently been diagnosed with Crohn's, although

looking back I had many of the symptoms in varying capacities for

around three years. I had a very bad flare up while on holiday in

India about four weeks ago which resulted in my spending ten days in

an Indian hospital, most of it nil by mouth. I was treated with anti-

botics, Mesalazine and Prednisolone. I'm pleased to say I responded

well to this treatment and since returning to the UK, I have reduced

the dosage of Presnisolone from 40mg to 20mg on the advice of my

Consultant and have been instructed to reduce by 10mg each week

thereafter. I have to say that I not felt this healthy in many years

and have now turned my attention to my lifestyle and diet in

particular in a bid to improve further.

I have read BTVC with great interest and have been following the diet;

on the whole. I have however during this time eaten the occasional

illegal foods, maybe four or five times, without any seeming

consequence. This led me to think that it may be possible for me to

follow the SCD diet 80% or 90% of the time and the remainder treat

myself to the occasional illegal food/drink - a pint of Guinness

perhaps or even some fries. Reading BTVC, it is very clear that this

isn't permitted and the diet requires the strictest adherence. But in

my case, I didn't experience any problems when I did stray. I am

curious to get members thoughts on this bearing my context. Does

anyone else follow the SCD 80:20? Can it work or is it wishful

thinking?

I'd be most interested to hear your thoughts.

Kind regards,

Oliver Lucas

-- http://wonderwomen.typepad.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that Mel. If you experience what seems to be a cause and

effect relationship between certain types of foods, such as grains,

this is motivation enough for avoidance. In my case because this

doesn't seem to happen (yet) I find it a bit tougher as I think to

myself " maybe I could have eaten it all along " .

In a peverse kind of a way it would be better for me to actually get

sick from eating certain types of foods so at least then I would know

I can't tolerate it and as you say, it's a pretty straight forward

choice from there. Would you recommend my isolating certain foods to

test ie continue with the diet 100% and try a single food once to see

the reaction? Or am I running before I can walk?

[Guest guest]

for true healing i'd say do the 2 years 100% BUT wondering the same

for my daughter with obssesive compulsive disorder - would 80/20 work

for her????/ anyone???//??

thanks eileen

10 months scd

and not having any desire to cheat - you'll get there too :-)

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have an SCD question. A little bit about my condition before the

> question: I have only recently been diagnosed with Crohn's,

although

> looking back I had many of the symptoms in varying capacities for

> around three years. I had a very bad flare up while on holiday in

> India about four weeks ago which resulted in my spending ten days

in

> an Indian hospital, most of it nil by mouth. I was treated with

anti-

> botics, Mesalazine and Prednisolone. I'm pleased to say I responded

> well to this treatment and since returning to the UK, I have

reduced

> the dosage of Presnisolone from 40mg to 20mg on the advice of my

> Consultant and have been instructed to reduce by 10mg each week

> thereafter. I have to say that I not felt this healthy in many

years

> and have now turned my attention to my lifestyle and diet in

> particular in a bid to improve further.

>

> I have read BTVC with great interest and have been following the

diet;

> on the whole. I have however during this time eaten the occasional

> illegal foods, maybe four or five times, without any seeming

> consequence. This led me to think that it may be possible for me to

> follow the SCD diet 80% or 90% of the time and the remainder treat

> myself to the occasional illegal food/drink - a pint of Guinness

> perhaps or even some fries. Reading BTVC, it is very clear that

this

> isn't permitted and the diet requires the strictest adherence. But

in

> my case, I didn't experience any problems when I did stray. I am

> curious to get members thoughts on this bearing my context. Does

> anyone else follow the SCD 80:20? Can it work or is it wishful

> thinking?

>

> I'd be most interested to hear your thoughts.

> Kind regards,

> Oliver Lucas

>

[Guest guest]

At 02:16 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:

Reading BTVC, it is very clear

that this

isn't permitted and the diet requires the strictest adherence. But in

my case, I didn't experience any problems when I did stray. I am

curious to get members thoughts on this bearing my context. Does

anyone else follow the SCD 80:20? Can it work or is it wishful

thinking?

It's wishful thinking. Been there. Tried it.

—

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Oliver - sorry if I get this wrong becasue I am American, but are you bloody daft? Take it from someone who has been to the depths of hell and the verge of death with all the nasty gut stuff, that you may want to consider a change in your mindset...if I knew then, before I became acutely symptomatic, what I know now, or I had someone to nudge me in the right direction, I would have employed SCD in a heartbeat and chosen freely to drastically modify my diet, though maybe inconveneinet, to avoid the pain, heartache and suffering that ensued...when we have compromised guts, these things can creep up on us and it can take years for the damage to get ot the point where we desperately need SCD...you don't want to get there...I'd feel so good if I were were you that you were enlightened enough to discover SCD and consider its implication for maintaining your current well state of health perpetually...revel in your wellness but broaden your current outlook to consider this dieta

ry approach for the long term...I suspect you would not be sorry...Happy holidays across the pond...MK

[Guest guest]

I guess you need to make a decision one way or the other. Maybe you

need to try the 80/20 for 3 or 6 months and see how you do. And then

please let me know! I feel that I am in the same boat as you. I

went to a formal function and cheated with some chocolate cake and rum

and cokes - no adverse effect that you could directly connect. Here's

my plan. I'm going to make every attempt to no cheat and when I am

not having daily trouble and I feel I am healed, I plan on trying

something like the 80/20 thought you have. I just want to be able to

go out to my favorite pizza place once in a blue moon. Or on days

when I get caught in town and haven't brought enough food - I can get

something smart at a drive through. I really think that most of us

are different when it comes down to it - about what specifically works

for us in the diet - especially once healed.

When I was in a flare before I started the diet do you know what I

used to eat to deter diarrehea? Oreo cookies. I felt so good after

eating Oreos! My doctor said that if oreo's cure me we are writing a

book! I don't think they cure me at all, but for some reason, slowed

down the system when I needed it. Of course I wouldn't do that now.

Good luck to you.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder can be treated effectively with

Cognitive-Behavioral

Treatment, particularly " exposure with response prevention. " Medication may

also be

needed in combination with this treatment. A qualified therapist who is an

expert in

treating OCD is advisable.

Surely you're not suggesting that it can be treated with diet?

CD 11 years

SCD 2 years

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I have an SCD question. A little bit about my condition before the

> > question: I have only recently been diagnosed with Crohn's,

> although

> > looking back I had many of the symptoms in varying capacities for

> > around three years. I had a very bad flare up while on holiday in

> > India about four weeks ago which resulted in my spending ten days

> in

> > an Indian hospital, most of it nil by mouth. I was treated with

> anti-

> > botics, Mesalazine and Prednisolone. I'm pleased to say I responded

> > well to this treatment and since returning to the UK, I have

> reduced

> > the dosage of Presnisolone from 40mg to 20mg on the advice of my

> > Consultant and have been instructed to reduce by 10mg each week

> > thereafter. I have to say that I not felt this healthy in many

> years

> > and have now turned my attention to my lifestyle and diet in

> > particular in a bid to improve further.

> >

> > I have read BTVC with great interest and have been following the

> diet;

> > on the whole. I have however during this time eaten the occasional

> > illegal foods, maybe four or five times, without any seeming

> > consequence. This led me to think that it may be possible for me to

> > follow the SCD diet 80% or 90% of the time and the remainder treat

> > myself to the occasional illegal food/drink - a pint of Guinness

> > perhaps or even some fries. Reading BTVC, it is very clear that

> this

> > isn't permitted and the diet requires the strictest adherence. But

> in

> > my case, I didn't experience any problems when I did stray. I am

> > curious to get members thoughts on this bearing my context. Does

> > anyone else follow the SCD 80:20? Can it work or is it wishful

> > thinking?

> >

> > I'd be most interested to hear your thoughts.

> > Kind regards,

> > Oliver Lucas

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hey if autism is... Actually we refused meds, prayed and did ERP and

still do and she's 90% better -just thought that may help with the

rest ???? helps so many disorders

eileen

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > I have an SCD question. A little bit about my condition before

the

> > > question: I have only recently been diagnosed with Crohn's,

> > although

> > > looking back I had many of the symptoms in varying capacities

for

> > > around three years. I had a very bad flare up while on holiday

in

> > > India about four weeks ago which resulted in my spending ten

days

> > in

> > > an Indian hospital, most of it nil by mouth. I was treated with

> > anti-

> > > botics, Mesalazine and Prednisolone. I'm pleased to say I

responded

> > > well to this treatment and since returning to the UK, I have

> > reduced

> > > the dosage of Presnisolone from 40mg to 20mg on the advice of

my

> > > Consultant and have been instructed to reduce by 10mg each week

> > > thereafter. I have to say that I not felt this healthy in many

> > years

> > > and have now turned my attention to my lifestyle and diet in

> > > particular in a bid to improve further.

> > >

> > > I have read BTVC with great interest and have been following

the

> > diet;

> > > on the whole. I have however during this time eaten the

occasional

> > > illegal foods, maybe four or five times, without any seeming

> > > consequence. This led me to think that it may be possible for

me to

> > > follow the SCD diet 80% or 90% of the time and the remainder

treat

> > > myself to the occasional illegal food/drink - a pint of

Guinness

> > > perhaps or even some fries. Reading BTVC, it is very clear that

> > this

> > > isn't permitted and the diet requires the strictest adherence.

But

> > in

> > > my case, I didn't experience any problems when I did stray. I

am

> > > curious to get members thoughts on this bearing my context.

Does

> > > anyone else follow the SCD 80:20? Can it work or is it wishful

> > > thinking?

> > >

> > > I'd be most interested to hear your thoughts.

> > > Kind regards,

> > > Oliver Lucas

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

I believe OCD can be treated with dietary changes. I am not

suggesting it is 100% cure-able; I am not a doctor and do not know

that for sure. But certainly any developmental issues or

depression/anxiety and OCD symptoms can be treated with diet. Why do

you think so many parents of autistic kids are doing this diet?

SCD since 9/9/08

>

> Hello,

>

> Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder can be treated effectively with

Cognitive-Behavioral

> Treatment, particularly " exposure with response prevention. "

Medication may also be

> needed in combination with this treatment. A qualified therapist

who is an expert in

> treating OCD is advisable.

>

> Surely you're not suggesting that it can be treated with diet?

>

>

> CD 11 years

> SCD 2 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > for true healing i'd say do the 2 years 100% BUT wondering the same

> > for my daughter with obssesive compulsive disorder - would 80/20 work

> > for her????/ anyone???//??

> > thanks eileen

> > 10 months scd

> > and not having any desire to cheat - you'll get there too :-)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Marilyn and Group,

Yes, cow's dairy. I feel very strongly about the gut brain connection. After experiencing many mental symptoms when my Crohn's was at it's worse, you could not convince me any different. One of the first symptoms I experienced was the onset of OCD, and also generalized feelings of insecurity. These improved greatly following the SCD.

Salazar (aka Margie11)