Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi! I haven't posted here for a while, but I just read your post and thought I would chime in. I have read that Dr. Lowe doesn't rely on temps. I actually don't rely on them either anymore. I rely more on symptoms now, and general feeling of wellness, because I felt I started worrying too much about temps, and I actually find I feel a little better when my temps are slightly below 98.6 When they are at 98.6 I start getting really sweaty from the cytomel. I think my temps are a little lower because I take estrogen. Anyway, I just wanted to give you another perspective and let you know that, maybe if you feel okay despite slightly low temps, you might be okay. Is it just the temps? Or do you have other low thyroid symptoms? Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thank you Liz,But all of my temperatures are in the 96 range. I feel fatigued, my tongue is white, my liver cannot cope probably because of enzyme deficiency, my sinuses are messed up, I cannot think straight, and my nails are in bad shape. All thanks to a vaccination 15 years ago that I didn't even need and a lifetime of mercury fillings. Someone ought to shoot these idiots in the medical and dentistry professions.If I raise my temperature, my liver and digestive system might start working properly and everything else will fall into place.All I can hope is that the Mexican stuff works better than the Thai stuff. But somehow I think that I'm flogging a dead horse and that there is nobody in this supposed advanced world we live in that can help me. Ridiculous.KMFTo: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, 15 January, 2010 11:23:25 AMSubject: Re: This is ridiculous Hi! I haven't posted here for a while, but I just read your post and thought I would chime in. I have read that Dr. Lowe doesn't rely on temps. I actually don't rely on them either anymore. I rely more on symptoms now, and general feeling of wellness, because I felt I started worrying too much about temps, and I actually find I feel a little better when my temps are slightly below 98.6 When they are at 98.6 I start getting really sweaty from the cytomel. I think my temps are a little lower because I take estrogen. Anyway, I just wanted to give you another perspective and let you know that, maybe if you feel okay despite slightly low temps, you might be okay. Is it just the temps? Or do you have other low thyroid symptoms? Liz See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010  keith, sorry if I missed a post. What vaccination did you get? I had the H1N1 and would not recommend it to anyone with any adrenal/thyroid issues. It felt like I had been hit by a bus afterwards. Re: This is ridiculous Hi!I haven't posted here for a while, but I just read your post and thought I would chime in. I have read that Dr. Lowe doesn't rely on temps. I actually don't rely on them either anymore. I rely more on symptoms now, and general feeling of wellness, because I felt I started worrying too much about temps, and I actually find I feel a little better when my temps are slightly below 98.6When they are at 98.6 I start getting really sweaty from the cytomel. I think my temps are a little lower because I take estrogen.Anyway, I just wanted to give you another perspective and let you know that, maybe if you feel okay despite slightly low temps, you might be okay.Is it just the temps? Or do you have other low thyroid symptoms?Liz See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 What would taking estrogen have to do with lower temps? I have been on estrogne for 27 years and my temps are normal. 98.6 average every day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hang in there . I am thinking oy uhave a form of thyrodi resistance we have not met up with as I am sure we will find in doing this protocol. There will always be people that do not get well even on T3, and we cannto EVER start to think this is a one size fits all bandaid. I am at odds ot tell you wher to turn at this point but believe me, you are NOT alone in being unable ot find / fix your metabolic roadblock. i have come across a couple people that are struggling with this issue and though your situations may be differnt I am stil researching for OTHER answers. While I htink glucos regulation may be part of it, I do nto think it is all of it or every Diabetic out there would have these issues and they don't.All we can do is the best we can with supplementing things we knwo our bnodies need and research research research. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 > >Hang in there . I am thinking oy uhave a form of thyrodi resistance >we have not met up with as I am sure we will find in doing this >protocol. There will always be people that do not get well even on T3, Blue sky thinking, if you have another sort of resistance does taking enough T3 allow enough to trickle through and leave you " not-hypo " ? I needed 250 of T3 to keep be " not hypo " at the final stages before clearance while I had RT3 issues, and that cleared like a log jam moving at the 11 week mark. Since then I have re-established dose and am pretty stable. I still need a LOT of T3 to keep my pulse and temperature up, far more than most people do. That to me says there is still resistance of some sort. I am currently on 150 a day spread out in 6 doses and energy levels, focus, sleep patterns etc are pretty good on that dose. I am sure that if I had labs done now my FT3 would be well over range. I am thinking that there is resistance of another sort going on as well as RT3. If you increase your dose do you get to a point where you feel well or do you get any adverse effects first (pulse/anxiety/adrenal etc) Just thinking out loud here. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yes it is possible your body is needing more time to clear the RT3 and rebuild damaged receptors where they can once again accept thyroid properly. I have had definite improvements since the initial breakthrough of RT3 so that is not the best we can get at the 12 week point either. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Nick, - didn't mean to exclude u my comment. I appreciate all your help also. I was just commenting on what val had said that we r not one size fits all bandaid. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: rlconnelly@...Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:38:44 +0000To: <RT3_T3 >Subject: Re: Re: This is ridiculous Val, u r amazing. U don't give up on anyone; even when they feel like giving up. Thanks for that.... Rhonda. We r all so different and a cookie cutter or textbook example isn't always the case.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: <artisticgroomerjfwebs>Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:06:25 -0500To: <RT3_T3 >Subject: Re: Re: This is ridiculous Hang in there . I am thinking oy uhave a form of thyrodi resistance we have not met up with as I am sure we will find in doing this protocol. There will always be people that do not get well even on T3, and we cannto EVER start to think this is a one size fits all bandaid. I am at odds ot tell you wher to turn at this point but believe me, you are NOT alone in being unable ot find / fix your metabolic roadblock. i have come across a couple people that are struggling with this issue and though your situations may be differnt I am stil researching for OTHER answers. While I htink glucos regulation may be part of it, I do nto think it is all of it or every Diabetic out there would have these issues and they don't.All we can do is the best we can with supplementing things we knwo our bnodies need and research research research.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hi Oh I am so sorry. It sounds like you are dealing with some awful issues and raising the temps would definitely help. I hope you get some relief. Cynomel is strong, I have found, so maybe you will have better luck with it. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hey Val I have always heard that estrogen lowers temps and that is why temps are higher during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Is that not true? I do notice my temps go down slightly when I take topical estrogen. I will have to check my temps a bit more to see if that is still happening liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Possibly someone has suggested this ages ago, but have you considered systemic candida? White tongue, liver distress, brain fog, fatigue, bad nails are all classic candida symptoms, and candida thrives in a lower than normal body temperature, ie hypo. I don't know if candida could cause T3 resistance, but it can certainly cause all the above issues. >>> But all of my temperatures are in the 96 range. I feel fatigued, my tongue is white, my liver cannot cope probably because of enzyme deficiency, my sinuses are messed up, I cannot think straight, and my nails are in bad shape. << Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I don't think that estrogen lowers temps...I think progesterone raises them (progesterone surges at/after ovulation and stays up until right before the next cycle begins). But I could be wrong. ~Rainbow~ 30 year old Female 5'6 " 139lbs Dx: Hashi's, AF, Wheat Sensitivity Rx/OTC: Cynomel 50mcg, HC 27.5mg, Florinef 1tab, Potassium 90mEq, Sea Salt 3/4tsp My Log: http://tinyurl.com/pvgjmb My Blog: http://hyporainbow.wordpress.com > > > Hey Val > I have always heard that estrogen lowers temps and that is why temps are higher during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Is that not true? > I do notice my temps go down slightly when I take topical estrogen. I will have to check my temps a bit more to see if that is still happening > liz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I suggested this via email, as I was thinking the same thing with the symptoms listed. My holistic doc tested my dh for candida because she said it hinders the thyroid. Although I did not have time to find out how...she charges by the length of the visit. But from dealing with candida overgrowth on my biomed group it will make you feel horrible if you have it. Jan > > Possibly someone has suggested this ages ago, but have you considered systemic candida? White tongue, liver distress, brain fog, fatigue, bad nails are all classic candida symptoms, and candida thrives in a lower than normal body temperature, ie hypo. > > I don't know if candida could cause T3 resistance, but it can certainly cause all the above issues. > > > >>> But all of my temperatures are in the 96 range. I feel fatigued, my tongue is white, my liver cannot cope probably because of enzyme deficiency, my sinuses are messed up, I cannot think straight, and my nails are in bad shape. << > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Oh, okay, this makes sense. I wonder if I notice my temps going down after takin estro because it mixes with the thyroid? > > > > > > Hey Val > > I have always heard that estrogen lowers temps and that is why temps are higher during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Is that not true? > > I do notice my temps go down slightly when I take topical estrogen. I will have to check my temps a bit more to see if that is still happening > > liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Oh, okay, this makes sense. I wonder if I notice my temps going down after takin estro because it mixes with the thyroid? > > > > > > Hey Val > > I have always heard that estrogen lowers temps and that is why temps are higher during the luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. Is that not true? > > I do notice my temps go down slightly when I take topical estrogen. I will have to check my temps a bit more to see if that is still happening > > liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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