Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Michele. I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have gleaned on this MB. Yes, Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more hip resurfs then just about anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success. Many of his patients do seem to walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to pay for this surgery (I know I do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. These Doctors are using caution and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are trying hard not to hurt their numbers for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them Hope this helps. Lois question So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Michele. I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have gleaned on this MB. Yes, Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more hip resurfs then just about anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success. Many of his patients do seem to walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to pay for this surgery (I know I do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. These Doctors are using caution and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are trying hard not to hurt their numbers for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them Hope this helps. Lois question So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Michele. I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have gleaned on this MB. Yes, Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more hip resurfs then just about anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success. Many of his patients do seem to walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to pay for this surgery (I know I do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. These Doctors are using caution and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are trying hard not to hurt their numbers for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them Hope this helps. Lois question So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele _____ Hi ~ I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved. Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over 6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele _____ Hi ~ I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved. Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over 6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele _____ Hi ~ I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved. Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over 6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. > These Doctors are using caution > and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are > trying hard not to hurt their numbers > for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg. Bruce Left C2k 10/21/02 Dr. Helmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. > These Doctors are using caution > and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are > trying hard not to hurt their numbers > for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg. Bruce Left C2k 10/21/02 Dr. Helmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 > do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials. > These Doctors are using caution > and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are > trying hard not to hurt their numbers > for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense. Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg. Bruce Left C2k 10/21/02 Dr. Helmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Michele, My Doctor, Dr. Stachniw, told me most infatically, NO EXERCISE FOR SIX WEEKS. I don't remember who you said your doctor is but they definately do have different opinions. I was allowed to walk around the house as needed,using the walker with touch down weight only, but not encouraged to walk any great length. His opinion is that you need these six weeks for the soft tissue to heal. I followed his instructions to the letter, though I know most people deviate quite a bit, they drive early, they put more than touch down weight on that leg and even walk unaided. I'm not saying that's bad, look at the Belgium hippies. I'm just saying that I chose this doctor and felt I needed to do exactly what he told me if I was trusting him with my surgery. Maybe your doctor will give you some exercise to do during your six weeks. Best luck, Barb > > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those > who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more > miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons > in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the > European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a > cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > > Michele > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Hi Casey, In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor muscles who had had little use for 35years. Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any possible dislocation chance. The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis without doing that. Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has done for his health in a long time. I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will just flow when it all happens. Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02 > Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds > with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes. > I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there > was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be > actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering > implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone > ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck > fracturing? > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Lois G. > Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26 > A: surfacehippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Hi Casey, In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor muscles who had had little use for 35years. Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any possible dislocation chance. The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis without doing that. Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has done for his health in a long time. I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will just flow when it all happens. Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02 > Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds > with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes. > I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there > was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be > actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering > implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone > ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck > fracturing? > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Lois G. > Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26 > A: surfacehippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 Hi Casey, In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor muscles who had had little use for 35years. Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any possible dislocation chance. The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis without doing that. Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has done for his health in a long time. I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will just flow when it all happens. Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02 > Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds > with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes. > I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there > was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be > actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering > implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone > ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck > fracturing? > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: Lois G. > Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26 > A: surfacehippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME to heal. The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place - ONCE they've healed. " michele " on 21/01/2003 03:45:44 To: <surfacehippy > cc: bcc: , 21 January 2003, 3:45 a.m. Contact: Contact: Re: Re: question Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME to heal. The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place - ONCE they've healed. " michele " on 21/01/2003 03:45:44 To: <surfacehippy > cc: bcc: , 21 January 2003, 3:45 a.m. Contact: Contact: Re: Re: question Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME to heal. The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place - ONCE they've healed. " michele " on 21/01/2003 03:45:44 To: <surfacehippy > cc: bcc: , 21 January 2003, 3:45 a.m. Contact: Contact: Re: Re: question Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated. Michele Re: question Michele, I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite draining. My two cents, Barb > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info. > Michele > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10. I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do. I started with 30mg twice a day - noticed improved GI motility - went up to 60 mg twice a day - was fine - but have had trouble since increasing it to 100. GI motility seems worse, sometimes it brings on more nausea and these headaches have gotten extreme. Before I started thinking that the headaches might be related to the higher doses of CoQ10, I had pretty well gotten used to 100 and was beginning to try 130mg twice a day. My doctor wants me up to 200mg twice a day. Have never yet been able to tolerate 130 without vomiting (I've tried with food, without food etc), so I've been stuck at 100 for awhile - but as I've thought about the timing of these headaches, it seems to have gotten worse and worse the higher the dose of CoQ10. Anyway - any thoughts out there or other experiences with it?Thanks - AnneTired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Anne, for some reason there are those in the mito world that coq is NOT good for. Same with carnitine. Most are helped by it, but there are some who cant tolerate it. You may be one of those who should stick to 30-60 mg. a day. With me, it is carnitine I cant use. Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10. I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do. I started with 30mg twice a day - noticed improved GI motility - went up to 60 mg twice a day - was fine - but have had trouble since increasing it to 100. GI motility seems worse, sometimes it brings on more nausea and these headaches have gotten extreme. Before I started thinking that the headaches might be related to the higher doses of CoQ10, I had pretty well gotten used to 100 and was beginning to try 130mg twice a day. My doctor wants me up to 200mg twice a day. Have never yet been able to tolerate 130 without vomiting (I've tried with food, without food etc), so I've been stuck at 100 for awhile - but as I've thought about the timing of these headaches, it seems to have gotten worse and worse the higher the dose of CoQ10. Anyway - any thoughts out there or other experiences with it?Thanks - Anne Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2003 Report Share Posted March 12, 2003 Anne, I am another person who does not tolerate Co Q 10. So far, Barbara has been the only other person I met who does worse on it. My migraines did increase and I was getting sick (vomiting) every day while I was on it. My symptoms also seemed to get worse. This was on the low dose of it. It sounds like you might tolerate the low dose. I would talk to your doctor about this. Smiles, a Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10. I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do. I started with 30mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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