Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Here is my slant on the deal. Your there to treat. If you are in danger, retreat. Notify law enforcement. If someone really wants to get at you, you really will not have enough warning to spray. Otherwise you have enough warning to retreat. If the issue of being attacked or hurt continues to bother you, you might want to look for other work. There is always the possibility that this may occur. You can't dwell on it. If folks start arming themselves with the spray, what will they want to carry next? The best defense you can have is always stay alert, pay attention to your surroundings and read the scene. I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and it has worked for me. Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Here is my slant on the deal. Your there to treat. If you are in danger, retreat. Notify law enforcement. If someone really wants to get at you, you really will not have enough warning to spray. Otherwise you have enough warning to retreat. If the issue of being attacked or hurt continues to bother you, you might want to look for other work. There is always the possibility that this may occur. You can't dwell on it. If folks start arming themselves with the spray, what will they want to carry next? The best defense you can have is always stay alert, pay attention to your surroundings and read the scene. I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and it has worked for me. Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 >>From: Henry >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >>it has worked for me. Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... Mike " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! www.emstock.com www.temsf.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 >>From: Henry >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >>it has worked for me. Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... Mike " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! www.emstock.com www.temsf.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 >>From: Henry >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >>it has worked for me. Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... Mike " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! www.emstock.com www.temsf.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I agree with you there. I do remember something back in 97 or so about EMS carrying side arms. Needless to say (but I'm gonna say it anyway) I got a cold feeling in my gut at the thought of it. I could almost hear the news story about a medic taking a round from his own gun after a combative patient got a hold of it. All kidding aside, I think carrying pepper spray is just one more thing that could bite us in the backside. If I am in a situation where I'm in danger I leave. If I am prevented from leaving I try to talk, and if that wont work an O2 cylinder can work wonders as an offensive device in a pinch. (D's are better for that IMHO). Bottom line is that situational awareness is the key, along with listening to that little voice in your head that warns you something bad might be coming your way. I've only been doing this kind of stuff for a few years, but I have worked security and was in the military before that and that same lesson was taught in each case. Since I have been doing first response stuff, I have never had to cause harm to a patient, but I have had to restrain a couple (with help thank the Big Boss Man) for their own safety and hat of other responders. Call me lazy, but I prefer not to create more work for myself. I leave my guns at home and the pepper spray on the store shelf. Crosby EMT-B and luvin it. Henry wrote: >Here is my slant on the deal. Your there to treat. If you are in danger, retreat. Notify law enforcement. If someone really wants to get at you, you really will not have enough warning to spray. Otherwise you have enough warning to retreat. If the issue of being attacked or hurt continues to bother you, you might want to look for >other work. There is always the possibility that this may occur. You can't dwell on it. If folks start arming themselves with the spray, what will they want to carry next? The best defense you can have is always stay alert, pay attention to your surroundings and read the scene. I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >it has worked for me. > >Henry > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I agree with you there. I do remember something back in 97 or so about EMS carrying side arms. Needless to say (but I'm gonna say it anyway) I got a cold feeling in my gut at the thought of it. I could almost hear the news story about a medic taking a round from his own gun after a combative patient got a hold of it. All kidding aside, I think carrying pepper spray is just one more thing that could bite us in the backside. If I am in a situation where I'm in danger I leave. If I am prevented from leaving I try to talk, and if that wont work an O2 cylinder can work wonders as an offensive device in a pinch. (D's are better for that IMHO). Bottom line is that situational awareness is the key, along with listening to that little voice in your head that warns you something bad might be coming your way. I've only been doing this kind of stuff for a few years, but I have worked security and was in the military before that and that same lesson was taught in each case. Since I have been doing first response stuff, I have never had to cause harm to a patient, but I have had to restrain a couple (with help thank the Big Boss Man) for their own safety and hat of other responders. Call me lazy, but I prefer not to create more work for myself. I leave my guns at home and the pepper spray on the store shelf. Crosby EMT-B and luvin it. Henry wrote: >Here is my slant on the deal. Your there to treat. If you are in danger, retreat. Notify law enforcement. If someone really wants to get at you, you really will not have enough warning to spray. Otherwise you have enough warning to retreat. If the issue of being attacked or hurt continues to bother you, you might want to look for >other work. There is always the possibility that this may occur. You can't dwell on it. If folks start arming themselves with the spray, what will they want to carry next? The best defense you can have is always stay alert, pay attention to your surroundings and read the scene. I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >it has worked for me. > >Henry > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 I agree with you there. I do remember something back in 97 or so about EMS carrying side arms. Needless to say (but I'm gonna say it anyway) I got a cold feeling in my gut at the thought of it. I could almost hear the news story about a medic taking a round from his own gun after a combative patient got a hold of it. All kidding aside, I think carrying pepper spray is just one more thing that could bite us in the backside. If I am in a situation where I'm in danger I leave. If I am prevented from leaving I try to talk, and if that wont work an O2 cylinder can work wonders as an offensive device in a pinch. (D's are better for that IMHO). Bottom line is that situational awareness is the key, along with listening to that little voice in your head that warns you something bad might be coming your way. I've only been doing this kind of stuff for a few years, but I have worked security and was in the military before that and that same lesson was taught in each case. Since I have been doing first response stuff, I have never had to cause harm to a patient, but I have had to restrain a couple (with help thank the Big Boss Man) for their own safety and hat of other responders. Call me lazy, but I prefer not to create more work for myself. I leave my guns at home and the pepper spray on the store shelf. Crosby EMT-B and luvin it. Henry wrote: >Here is my slant on the deal. Your there to treat. If you are in danger, retreat. Notify law enforcement. If someone really wants to get at you, you really will not have enough warning to spray. Otherwise you have enough warning to retreat. If the issue of being attacked or hurt continues to bother you, you might want to look for >other work. There is always the possibility that this may occur. You can't dwell on it. If folks start arming themselves with the spray, what will they want to carry next? The best defense you can have is always stay alert, pay attention to your surroundings and read the scene. I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and >it has worked for me. > >Henry > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 at the risk of getting ripped here, I taught Koonce everything he doesn't know. Henry Hatfield wrote: > >>From: Henry > > >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and > >>it has worked for me. > > Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... > > Mike > > " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P > > EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! > > www.emstock.com > www.temsf.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 at the risk of getting ripped here, I taught Koonce everything he doesn't know. Henry Hatfield wrote: > >>From: Henry > > >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and > >>it has worked for me. > > Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... > > Mike > > " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P > > EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! > > www.emstock.com > www.temsf.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 at the risk of getting ripped here, I taught Koonce everything he doesn't know. Henry Hatfield wrote: > >>From: Henry > > >>I have been doing this for over 30 sumpin years and > >>it has worked for me. > > Wow, you must be as old as...well.....Koonce.... > > Mike > > " Tater Salad " Hatfield EMT-P > > EMStock 2005!! Coming soon!!! > > www.emstock.com > www.temsf.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 is there anyone who is unable to eat: gluten, grains, FODMAP's (which include: * Oligosaccharides: fructans (in wheat, onions), galactans, raffinose (in asparagus, beans, cabbage, broccoli, brussels sprouts, and whole grains); * Disaccharides: lactose (dairy products); * Mono-saccharides: fructose (honey, apples) * Polyols: sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, isomalt, maltitol, arabitol, erythritol, glycol, glycerol, lactitol, ribitol (they are used as artificial sweeteners, stabilizers etc). curious, if you are out there, how you manage. all best spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 At 08:55 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote: is there anyone who is unable to eat: gluten, grains, FODMAP's (which include: * Oligosaccharides: fructans (in wheat, onions), galactans, raffinose (in asparagus, beans, cabbage, broccoli, brussels sprouts, and whole grains); * Disaccharides: lactose (dairy products); * Mono-saccharides: fructose (honey, apples) * Polyols: sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, isomalt, maltitol, arabitol, erythritol, glycol, glycerol, lactitol, ribitol (they are used as artificial sweeteners, stabilizers etc). curious, if you are out there, how you manage. all best spencer Spencer, Have you read Breaking the Vicious Cycle? Gluten and grains are forbidden on SCD. So are disaccharides and polyols, which include all the sugar alcohols. Fructose is only permitted in honey and fruit, not as a separate sweetener. Many people find, particularly at the beginning of the diet, that they must limit fruit and honey. Lactose is not permitted on SCD, and only 24 hour, properly prepared yogurt, which has no lactose, and other dairy products, such as dry curd cottage cheese and aged cheeses (also largely lactose free) are permitted. Beans, cabbage, broccoli, and brussels sprouts can all be problematic and are somewhat advanced vegetables. Wheat and other whole grains are all SCD illegal. In point of fact, I do very well without most of what you listed. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 yes yes i have read it, of coursei can barely tolerate the yogurt, same with honeyi think the fact that i thought i could have SOMEthing sweet (via the honey) allowed me to stick with the diet as long as i did at firstnow that appears to be off the table but it seems like i am working my way back to SCD but with zero sugarargghhthanks for your response i think i just hadn't put 2 and 2 togetherspencerAt 08:55 PM 10/26/2008, you wrote:is there anyone who is unable to eat:gluten, grains, FODMAP's (which include:* Oligosaccharides: fructans (in wheat, onions), galactans, raffinose (in asparagus, beans, cabbage, broccoli, brussels sprouts, and whole grains);* Disaccharides: lactose (dairy products);* Mono-saccharides: fructose (honey, apples)* Polyols: sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol, isomalt, maltitol, arabitol, erythritol, glycol, glycerol, lactitol, ribitol (they are used as artificial sweeteners, stabilizers etc).curious, if you are out there, how you manage.all bestspencerSpencer,Have you read Breaking the Vicious Cycle?Gluten and grains are forbidden on SCD.So are disaccharides and polyols, which include all the sugar alcohols.Fructose is only permitted in honey and fruit, not as a separate sweetener. Many people find, particularly at the beginning of the diet, that they must limit fruit and honey.Lactose is not permitted on SCD, and only 24 hour, properly prepared yogurt, which has no lactose, and other dairy products, such as dry curd cottage cheese and aged cheeses (also largely lactose free) are permitted.Beans, cabbage, broccoli, and brussels sprouts can all be problematic and are somewhat advanced vegetables. Wheat and other whole grains are all SCD illegal.In point of fact, I do very well without most of what you listed.— Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Spencer, Try dripping or draining the yogurt into yogurt cheese -- often the galactose, which is part of the water of hydrolysis (what many people incorrectly call the " whey " ) can be difficult for the liver to process. I certainly did better with dripped yogurt, but then, I came to SCD so jaundiced from a bout with gall bladder disease that they thought I had liver cancer. Very ripe bananas are quite sweet. Zero SUGAR is the key to SCD. Among others. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't know anyone who had it done arthroscopically, but my friend had shoulder surgery. She had some pain the first few days and seemed to recover fairly fast. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. Jolie > I saw the orthopedist on Monday afternoon. Last month I had an MRI on my > left shoulder. My shoulder has been locked up since January or February. > The doctor said that there's a bone spur causing an impingement. The bursa > is inflammed. There is also a small tear in the rotator cuff. > > The options he gave me: Physical therapy, surgery, cortisone. We > eliminated the cortisone right away, since I have had a negative reaction to > cortisone in the past. Two years ago I was in physical therapy for my > shoulder. It still took a year for me to gain back enough range of motion > so that I could use my left arm reasonably well. The doctor wants me to > think about this. > > I'm just wondering if you have had arthroscopic surgery on your shoulder, or > know somebody who did. How well did the recovery process go? > > Donna in WA > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't know anyone who had it done arthroscopically, but my friend had shoulder surgery. She had some pain the first few days and seemed to recover fairly fast. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. Jolie > I saw the orthopedist on Monday afternoon. Last month I had an MRI on my > left shoulder. My shoulder has been locked up since January or February. > The doctor said that there's a bone spur causing an impingement. The bursa > is inflammed. There is also a small tear in the rotator cuff. > > The options he gave me: Physical therapy, surgery, cortisone. We > eliminated the cortisone right away, since I have had a negative reaction to > cortisone in the past. Two years ago I was in physical therapy for my > shoulder. It still took a year for me to gain back enough range of motion > so that I could use my left arm reasonably well. The doctor wants me to > think about this. > > I'm just wondering if you have had arthroscopic surgery on your shoulder, or > know somebody who did. How well did the recovery process go? > > Donna in WA > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't know anyone who had it done arthroscopically, but my friend had shoulder surgery. She had some pain the first few days and seemed to recover fairly fast. Whatever you decide to do, good luck. Jolie > I saw the orthopedist on Monday afternoon. Last month I had an MRI on my > left shoulder. My shoulder has been locked up since January or February. > The doctor said that there's a bone spur causing an impingement. The bursa > is inflammed. There is also a small tear in the rotator cuff. > > The options he gave me: Physical therapy, surgery, cortisone. We > eliminated the cortisone right away, since I have had a negative reaction to > cortisone in the past. Two years ago I was in physical therapy for my > shoulder. It still took a year for me to gain back enough range of motion > so that I could use my left arm reasonably well. The doctor wants me to > think about this. > > I'm just wondering if you have had arthroscopic surgery on your shoulder, or > know somebody who did. How well did the recovery process go? > > Donna in WA > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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