Re: adrenals/ferritin/rt3 clearing

[Guest guest]

Well, hypothetically...who knows. Because rarely is there one cause for high

RT3...and from what I am told here, you can't get rid of the blocked receptors

without using T3 only. But I'm no pro.

For me, cortisol has done nothing but raise my RT3, not lower it. Working on

ferritin now, but I was told I will still need T3 only once the ferritin is

up...so that tells me...you need T3 only.

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> Hi there,

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> I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

>I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

Too many variables to know.

Have you got any labs??

Nick

[Guest guest]

You could try it. That is what I am doing as my doc will only give me so much T3

and I haven't decided whether to try and self treat yet. I am speculating myself

that any lowering of T4 would help to lower RT3. That is what I am hoping

happens for me.

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> > Hi there,

> >

> > I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I did try isocort/hc only because my t4 was fine, it just wasn't converting to

t3. It didn't work, my t3 never did come up. Of course, I had low ferritin and

didn't know to treat, so who knows, but I sort of think you have to clear out

the receptors, which is kind of the theory of 's.

> > > Hi there,

> > >

> > > I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Thanks so much for the replies!

Nick - here are my thyroid tests:

Free T4 1.6ng/dl (0.7-2.5ng/dl))

Free T3 3.3pg/ml (2.5-6.5 pg/ml)

TSH 1uU/ml (0.5-3.0 uU/ml)

My basal temp in the first half of my cycle is 36.3 to 36.5 and in the second

half 36.7-36.9.

My ferritin is 15. I am taking 100mg of elemental iron a day. I think my

ferritin got this low as I have long heavy periods from estrogen dominance -

although my progesterone and estrogen levels are normal, the ratio is wrong.

My average (3X) daily temps range between 36.8 and 37 in the first half of my

cycle and 36.9-37 during the second half of my cycle.

I am currently treating my adrenal fatigue - I'm on isocort.

I am not on any thyroid meds etc, just isocort and vitamins.

Thus, as I seem to be a " borderline " thyroid case, I was just wondering how long

I should wait before trying T3 once my ferritin and adrenal fatigue are sorted

out? Obviously I just want to raise my temps only slightly so that I fall in the

normal basal temp range. I'm guessing it's my slightly low basal temps that

cause me to put on weight much more easily than those around me when I eat half

of what they do!

But I want to avoid going on T3 if I can!

So, I was thinking if those 2 things (ferriting and adrenals) are the major

cause of my high RT3 (I obviously have an RT3 problem eventhough I cannot test

for it in my country), then perhaps eliminating them will allow my RT3 receptors

to mostly clear on their own in around 12 weeks perhaps? Just an idea!

Thanks!

Hayley

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> >I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

>

> Too many variables to know.

>

> Have you got any labs??

>

> Nick

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[Guest guest]

>So, I was thinking if those 2 things (ferriting and adrenals) are the major

cause of my high RT3 (I obviously have an RT3 problem eventhough I cannot test

for it in my country), then perhaps eliminating them will allow my RT3 receptors

to mostly clear on their own in around 12 weeks perhaps? Just an idea!

Yes, with these labs you are hypo and you have RT3 issues

Free T4 1.6ng/dl (0.7-2.5ng/dl))

Free T3 3.3pg/ml (2.5-6.5 pg/ml)

TSH 1uU/ml (0.5-3.0 uU/ml)

The FT4 above 1.4 together with the low FT3 says that you are

converting to reverse T3 instead of normal T3.

The unstable temperatures say adrenals.

The low Ferritin is a result of the hypo and yet will prevent you

treating it.

You will need to supplement Isocort and maybe HC to get temperature

stable

You will need to supplement iron heavily, 150mg of elemental iron a

day for some months

When the ferritin is up and the adrenals are stabilised you might, if

you are lucky avoid going onto thyroid but I doubt it.

If you do go onto thyroid then T3 only is the way to go

Nick

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the reply, Nick! I will let you know how it goes.

Hope you are having a great weekend!

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> >So, I was thinking if those 2 things (ferriting and adrenals) are the major

cause of my high RT3 (I obviously have an RT3 problem eventhough I cannot test

for it in my country), then perhaps eliminating them will allow my RT3 receptors

to mostly clear on their own in around 12 weeks perhaps? Just an idea!

>

> Yes, with these labs you are hypo and you have RT3 issues

>

> Free T4 1.6ng/dl (0.7-2.5ng/dl))

> Free T3 3.3pg/ml (2.5-6.5 pg/ml)

> TSH 1uU/ml (0.5-3.0 uU/ml)

>

> The FT4 above 1.4 together with the low FT3 says that you are

> converting to reverse T3 instead of normal T3.

>

> The unstable temperatures say adrenals.

>

> The low Ferritin is a result of the hypo and yet will prevent you

> treating it.

>

> You will need to supplement Isocort and maybe HC to get temperature

> stable

>

> You will need to supplement iron heavily, 150mg of elemental iron a

> day for some months

>

> When the ferritin is up and the adrenals are stabilised you might, if

> you are lucky avoid going onto thyroid but I doubt it.

>

> If you do go onto thyroid then T3 only is the way to go

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jan,

Just wondering - how could the cortisol have increased your rt3? Can it really

do that? That is pretty scary!

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> > Hi there,

> >

> > I was wondering, hypothetically, if low cortisol/low ferritin is your ONLY

cause of high RT3 (and you are not on any thyroids meds), and you get the

cortisol/ferritin sorted out - how long would it take to clear RT3? 12 weeks

after your temps stabilise or ferritin goes over 70 perhaps? Or would you still

need to take T3 to get rid of the RT3?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

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