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On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:02:55 -0000, " Jo "

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Hi Jo,

Welcome to the list.

>I'm about to commence my eighth year of involvement with the NCT

Coo - good on you. I'm a relative newbie - did AN classes over a

year ago, finally joined this August, just starting to get involved

locally.

>I had a hospital birth with the first, then two home births. The third

>baby arrived before the midwife, delivered by DH. A wonderful birth.

How completely fantastic ! Was it a very speedy labour, or was the

MW just slow? :-) I would love to have a HB; an unassisted HB is my

idea of a perfect labour (assuming all is well).

>I'm currently reading about fatherhood and finding it very challenging:

>I always thought men should be at the birth (DH was a great support

>to me), but am now beginning to wonder if it's such a good idea for the

>men.

Could you please tell us what you have learned ? I know there has

been discussion about whether dads should be present during labour -

can't recall what the major issue was. Do most men really not want

to be present ? Are they often traumatised by seeing childbirth or

something ? I'd be interested to hear what you've read on the

subject.

Cheers.

--

Clare Lusher.

SAHM to RuairĂ­ (24.10.99).

NCT Member Derby & District.

www.yum.org/clare

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Hi Jo,

>>I recently went on a study day led by Michel Odent and that has stimulated

so many new ideas, it is very >>exciting.

I always dreamed of giving birth in Pitivier (spelling - can't locate my

Birth Reborn book right now)

As it was, all my illusions were shattered with induction and emergency

caesarean section.

And you actually went on a study day led by Michel - I can but smile.

Nice to meet you

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I had a hospital birth with the first, then two home births. The third baby

arrived before the midwife, delivered by DH. A wonderful birth.

Jo

Trainee ANT, Southend

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Hi Jo welcome

I'd love to hear about your unattended home birth, as my 3rd was also unattended

and delivered by my DH.

Just being nosey.

Do tell. :-)

Tupman

Mum to Matt 13, 10, Jonty 14 months & Phil 35

NCT Houseswap Register Coordinator

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My DH has been present at all 4 births, 2 very traumatic and 2 straight forward.

The CS (DS1) had no effect on our relationship, though he was quite distressed

as no-one explained to him what was going on and he thought DS1 and I were both

about to die!

DD was born by very traumatic forceps. Lots and lots of blood, hundreds of

stitches, perineal infection (need I go on) and this did affect our

relationship, which wasn't really sorted until after DS2's quick uncomplicated

birth.

I offered him not to be there for DS3 but he wouldn't miss it for the world.

Having said that, I wouldn't have got through it all without him, but then

again, I don't have a female relative or friend who I would have wanted to be

there instead and I did need support, so I'm glad he was there.

Mc

SAHM 6, Olivia 3, 1, 15/3/00

Nearly Ex-Editor Wallingford and District

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Thanks for that Jo,

I suppose I sort of agreed to induction quite willingly as I was VERY

big and uncomfortable. I had been having pains from 35 weeks and was only a

few days late but Christmas was approaching fast. If only I had been

thinking straight at the time, I might have felt I could have left it

longer.

> Jo. wrote:-

> Michel said some controversial things about induction - i.e., you

> should leave the woman alone even if that meant she went weeks

> overdue unless it was eclampsia .................

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>>By the way, hello to all the other mothers on the list who have 3

>>boys or more. Good to know I'm not alone!

>>

>>Jo

>

>

>Hi Jo,

>I've got 4, currently all being looked after by the playstation!

>

>Lynda

>SAHM to (7), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

very advanced, your Callum, isn't he!!

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> Hi Jo,

> I've got 4, currently all being looked after by the playstation!

>

> Lynda

> SAHM to (7), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

So what's the age gap between Fraser and Callum? You've obviously

survived and coping enough to still hold a committee post. I toy

with the idea of another but DH thinks I'm mad (I think I'll probably

go mad if I had another!). One of the girls from my first antenatal

class is now expecting her 4th baby, she has three boys like me

(desperately wants a girl and doesn't cut her boys' hair so they look

cute and girly). She is marvellously well organised, makes her own

jam, decorates the house, keeps chickens and digs the garden on a

regular basis. I am awestruck.

i've started taking (7 this month) to Beavers and it's so

reassuring to be with a bunch of other mothers who have complete

tearaways for children!

What Playstation game do they like? Tom is into Grand Turismo (Dad's

finished with it now)

Jo

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>By the way, hello to all the other mothers on the list who have 3

>boys or more. Good to know I'm not alone!

>

>Jo

I only have 3 but i am will to swap my girl for one (yes, another of her

" lovely " weeks)

Mc

SAHM 6, Olivia 3, 1, 15/3/00

Nearly Ex-Editor Wallingford and District

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>So what's the age gap between Fraser and Callum?

2.5 years, about the same gap between each.

>One of the girls from my first antenatal

>class is now expecting her 4th baby.....She is marvellously well organised,

makes her own

>jam, decorates the house, keeps chickens and digs the garden on a

>regular basis

Very unlike me then, I just keep my head above water!

>i've started taking (7 this month) to Beavers and it's so

>reassuring to be with a bunch of other mothers who have complete

>tearaways for children!

Are all Beaver sessions the same then? is a Beaver and I am always

amazed at the complete chaos when I drop him off.

>What Playstation game do they like? Tom is into Grand Turismo (Dad's

>finished with it now)

Spyro 1 and 2, Crash Bandicoot, Croc, Pandemonium and Gran Turismo as well.

Lynda

SAHM to (7), (5), Fraser (3), Callum (15/5/00)

Newsletter editor, Mid-Northumberland Branch

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=762789

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>>>>>Ha Ha - I have two children, , very nearly 5 & Kieran, nearly 2.

I

was really tempted to spell my Kieran's name the same as yours but having

spent 33 years with people being unable to spell or pronounce my name I

determined years ago not to give my children names that other people

couldn't spell.<<<<<<

I have had my name spelt all manner of ways before now ... I vowed the same

... to give my children names that were *popular* ie I could buy tacky gifts

for (you know the ones I mean LOL)

as I always felt hard-done-to as a child .... instead I named mine Holly

(not so bad) and Haydn-Luc (get a personalised gift for that one)!

(emma-lie, Eemma-Leigh, lie, Emilie, etc etc)

NCT Derby & District

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ICQ ~ 84451959

www.robe-family.co.uk

www.derbyrealnappies.co.uk

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a husband who works in film &

> tv and spends so much time away from home that people think

he is a figment

> of my imagination. (Last year he was away 50 out of 51

weeks).

I know this feeling - both my parents worked in telly (my mum

doesn't anymore, dad is still going strong ) and I spent my whole

childhood seeing them flit in and out of my life - I saw more of the

nannies and au pairs than I did of them - plus my brother was

sent to boarding school! It was good fun being taken along to

filming though -- and I occasionally got used as an extra.

Caroline

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