RE: Hp-PAC for ASO

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Strep infection is very hard to cure - and even " cure " is sometimes defined

as ASO < 120, others ASO = 0.

I have been on Erythromycin (Erybid) for 5+ months and my ASO has only

dropped from 210 (approx) to 123. This is a SLOW process. Some literature

states that amox should only be prescribed for acute infection (eg: strep

throat) and not just for high ASO. Others say that Strep is no longer

affected by Amox (that's why I'm on Erybid).

The road back foundation suggests that there may even be a synergistic

relationship between Strep and Mycoplamsa...and that Strep should be reduced

to 0 (zero) before AP can be effective.

I think taking antibiotics for Strep makes a lot of sense (I'm doing it) -

just be prepared for the long haul (up to a year to get ASO to 0).

-Mike-

rheumatic Hp-PAC for ASO

From: " Pierre Fontaine " <pierre14@...>

Hello everyone,

As you may know, the standard treatment for ulcers (and a must for anyone

who has used NSAIDs in the past) is the Hp-PAC for 1-4 weeks, followed by a

minimum of 3 months of Losec (Omeprazole), 20 mg per day, a slow release

antiacid medication.

The Hp-PAC contains the following medication:

- Prevacid (Lansoprazole), 30 mg, every 12 hours, a delayed-release antiacid

medication;

- Amoxicillin, 1,000 mg, every 12 hours, an antibiotic;

- Biaxin (Clarithromycin), 500 mg, every 12 hours, an antibiotic.

In the United States, the Hp-PAC is possibly known as the PrevPAC.

A positive ASO titer is indicative of a Streptococcus bacteria infection and

possibly the consequence of ulcers.

Interestingly enough, the Hp-PAC can be used to cure both the ulcers and the

ASO infection. As I was reading my copy of Dr. Mercola's protocol, displayed

on the Web site, I came across the following passages:

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Amoxicillin

If the patient had a positive ASO titer one can initiate amoxicillin 250 mg

tid. Repeat the ASO titer at the next visit. If it is still positive several

options are available. One could increase the dose to 500 mg tid for another

four weeks or use Augmentin 250 mg tid. However, one needs to warn the

patients about diarrhea developing with this drug.

Other antibiotics

Some of the newer macrolide antibiotics like Biaxin or Zithromax may be

helpful, especially for patients with positive ASO titers.

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The antibiotics contained in the Hp-PAC are none other than Amoxicillin and

Biaxin, two of the antibiotics recommended by Dr. Mercola for patients who

have a positive ASO titer.

I have used the Hp-PAC for 2 weeks in January 1999 in order to treat the

ulcers that lead to my Ankylosing Spondylitis. As I still have a positive

ASO titer, I requested from my Orthopedic Surgeon a prescription for 4 weeks

of the Hp-PAC which I have been taking in September, 1999. Hopefully, this

has cured any lingering infection.

I should repeat the ASO test. If positive, I will request another

prescription for 4 weeks of the Hp-PAC, to be followed by a new ASO test.

Speaking of Rheumatoid Arthritis, Dr. Mercola has this to say about the ASO

titer:

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The following criteria can help establish remission:

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* ANA, RF, & ASO titers returning to normal

If patients discontinue their medications before all of the above criteria

are met, there is a greater risk that the disease will recur.

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Best of health.

Pierre

Ankylosing Spondylitis, 18-21 Years

Antibiotics, almost 13 Months