Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Free T4 = 1.10 TSH = .01 Free T3 = 4.30 RT3 = 16 Vit D = 62 Ferretin = 18 TPO = <10 AB = <20 Hemoglobin = 14.5 (I'm sure these two mean pretty much nothing, but I'll post anyway!) ACTH = 9 Cortisol = 5.0 Let me know if you need units or ranges for any of these. I am currently on 5 grains Thyroid-S and 30mg HC. Seems like my ferretin is VERY low, but I'm not having any issues with fatigue. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 More info that might be helpful: My periods are always irregular, but this time I have not had my period in about two months. I have been off birth control pills for close to a year. I took a pregnancy test yesterday just to be sure and it was negative. My energy levels are good... better than they have been in years! I have been able to start exercising again. I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. I don't eat a lot of meat, but I do drink whey protein shakes and eat dairy, nuts, and seeds, so even though it looks like my iron is very low, it's not affecting my energy or stamina. I also have several enlarged/palpable lymph nodes in different areas of my body that have not gone away for a couple of years. My B12 and potassium were low last June but I have been supplementing since then. Digestion and elimination are also better than they have been in years! Amy > > Free T4 = 1.10 > TSH = .01 > Free T3 = 4.30 > > RT3 = 16 > > Vit D = 62 > > Ferretin = 18 > > TPO = <10 > AB = <20 > > Hemoglobin = 14.5 > > (I'm sure these two mean pretty much nothing, but I'll post anyway!) > ACTH = 9 > Cortisol = 5.0 > > Let me know if you need units or ranges for any of these. I am currently on 5 grains Thyroid-S and 30mg HC. Seems like my ferretin is VERY low, but I'm not having any issues with fatigue. > > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 >My energy levels are good... better than they have been in years! I have been able to start exercising again. > >I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > >I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > From the thyroid labs you seem to be reasonably well medicated, from the temperatures it's not getting thyough to you fully. The low ferritin is a potential cause of that, recommended area is 70-90 and it's been found that 150mg of elemental iron a day is needed to bring it up when you are hypo. The Chiropractic adjustment rang a bell http://thyroid-rt3.com/backpain.htm is where I quoted a posting from someone on the list here > >Chiropractic adjustments that don't hold is a low thyroid symptom - can also be adrenal related. They both influence the strength of the ligaments. Adrenals particularly affect the hips, knees and ankles - being prone to turning the ankles easily is a low adrenal indicator. > My gut feeling is that your adrenals are low http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm Have you graphed any daily average temperatures yet? if not then look at the temperature graph link on that page and start doing so, If there is variability in temperature then it will be worth getting the adrenal saliva test done and links for that are on there From your labs it looks like you don't have an RT3 issue, Thyroid S ought to work outt for you Are you spreading that dose out through the day?? Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Thanks Nick. It's possible that my adrenals are still weak, although I have been taking HC for a year and a half and have been on 30mg for a while. I showed stage 7 AF when I did the saliva test in Sept. 2008 and have not done one since then so that I would not have to get off the HC. I figured I would do that once I could tell that my thyroid meds were stable. I take the HC upon rising, at lunch, mid afternoon, late evening and at bedtime (2.5) and I always stress dose. Do you think the low ferretin is probably the primary cause of my low temps, hair loss, dry skin, and lack of menstrual period? I have not used Dr. Rind's graph yet, but for a month I have tracked my temps 4x per day and my avg. temp is 97.5 without much variation at all, so it seems like my adrenals are pretty stable. Despite the low temp, I'm usually at a very comfortable temp and not cold all the time (and I live in Minnesota!) As f Amy > > >My energy levels are good... better than they have been in years! I have been able to start exercising again. > > > >I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > > > >I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > > > > From the thyroid labs you seem to be reasonably well medicated, from > the temperatures it's not getting thyough to you fully. > > The low ferritin is a potential cause of that, recommended area is > 70-90 and it's been found that 150mg of elemental iron a day is needed > to bring it up when you are hypo. > > The Chiropractic adjustment rang a bell > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/backpain.htm > > is where I quoted a posting from someone on the list here > > > > >Chiropractic adjustments that don't hold is a low thyroid symptom - can also be adrenal related. They both influence the strength of the ligaments. Adrenals particularly affect the hips, knees and ankles - being prone to turning the ankles easily is a low adrenal indicator. > > > > My gut feeling is that your adrenals are low > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm > > Have you graphed any daily average temperatures yet? if not then look > at the temperature graph link on that page and start doing so, > > If there is variability in temperature then it will be worth getting > the adrenal saliva test done and links for that are on there > > From your labs it looks like you don't have an RT3 issue, Thyroid S > ought to work outt for you > > Are you spreading that dose out through the day?? > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Last message got sent before I finished. As far as Thyroid-s dosing/timing, I just take my 5 grains upon rising, an hour before any food or supplements. Should I be spreading out my dose? Amy > > >My energy levels are good... better than they have been in years! I have been able to start exercising again. > > > >I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > > > >I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > > > > From the thyroid labs you seem to be reasonably well medicated, from > the temperatures it's not getting thyough to you fully. > > The low ferritin is a potential cause of that, recommended area is > 70-90 and it's been found that 150mg of elemental iron a day is needed > to bring it up when you are hypo. > > The Chiropractic adjustment rang a bell > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/backpain.htm > > is where I quoted a posting from someone on the list here > > > > >Chiropractic adjustments that don't hold is a low thyroid symptom - can also be adrenal related. They both influence the strength of the ligaments. Adrenals particularly affect the hips, knees and ankles - being prone to turning the ankles easily is a low adrenal indicator. > > > > My gut feeling is that your adrenals are low > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm > > Have you graphed any daily average temperatures yet? if not then look > at the temperature graph link on that page and start doing so, > > If there is variability in temperature then it will be worth getting > the adrenal saliva test done and links for that are on there > > From your labs it looks like you don't have an RT3 issue, Thyroid S > ought to work outt for you > > Are you spreading that dose out through the day?? > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 >Last message got sent before I finished. As far as Thyroid-s dosing/timing, I just take my 5 grains upon rising, an hour before any food or supplements. Should I be spreading out my dose? Spreading those 5 grains out will be a lot kinder on your adrenals and may help bring temperatures up 2 on waking 2 mid morning and 1 at lunchtime would work as a natural thyroid dosing. You may well find you can tolerate more than way and end up adding another at lunchtime to make it 3 doses of 2 each. I find counting out the days tablets into a bottle that I carry round with me means I don't lose track of what I have taken that day Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 But thyroid always has to be taken an hour before food and at least four hours before, right? And separate from supplements containing calcium or iron? Amy > > >Last message got sent before I finished. As far as Thyroid-s dosing/timing, I just take my 5 grains upon rising, an hour before any food or supplements. Should I be spreading out my dose? > > Spreading those 5 grains out will be a lot kinder on your adrenals and > may help bring temperatures up > > 2 on waking > > 2 mid morning > > and 1 at lunchtime > > would work as a natural thyroid dosing. You may well find you can > tolerate more than way and end up adding another at lunchtime to make > it 3 doses of 2 each. > > I find counting out the days tablets into a bottle that I carry round > with me means I don't lose track of what I have taken that day > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 It's possible that my adrenals are still weak, although I have been taking HC for a year and a half and have been on 30mg for a while. I showed stage 7 AF when I did the saliva test in Sept. 2008 and have not done one since then so that I would not have to get off the HC. I figured I would do that once I could tell that my thyroid meds were stable. I take the HC upon rising, at lunch, mid afternoon, late evening and at bedtime (2.5) and I always stress dose. Do you think the low ferretin is probably the primary cause of my low temps, hair loss, dry skin, and lack of menstrual period? I have not used Dr. Rind's graph yet, but for a month I have tracked my temps 4x per day and my avg. temp is 97.5 without much variation at all, so it seems like my adrenals are pretty stable. Despite the low temp, I'm usually at a very comfortable temp and not cold all the time (and I live in Minnesota!) Amy > > >My energy levels are good... better than they have been in years! I have been able to start exercising again. > > > >I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > > > >I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > > > > From the thyroid labs you seem to be reasonably well medicated, from > the temperatures it's not getting thyough to you fully. > > The low ferritin is a potential cause of that, recommended area is > 70-90 and it's been found that 150mg of elemental iron a day is needed > to bring it up when you are hypo. > > The Chiropractic adjustment rang a bell > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/backpain.htm > > is where I quoted a posting from someone on the list here > > > > >Chiropractic adjustments that don't hold is a low thyroid symptom - can also be adrenal related. They both influence the strength of the ligaments. Adrenals particularly affect the hips, knees and ankles - being prone to turning the ankles easily is a low adrenal indicator. > > > > My gut feeling is that your adrenals are low > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/adrenals.htm > > Have you graphed any daily average temperatures yet? if not then look > at the temperature graph link on that page and start doing so, > > If there is variability in temperature then it will be worth getting > the adrenal saliva test done and links for that are on there > > From your labs it looks like you don't have an RT3 issue, Thyroid S > ought to work outt for you > > Are you spreading that dose out through the day?? > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 >But thyroid always has to be taken an hour before food and at least four hours before, right? And separate from supplements containing calcium or iron? T4 absorption is affected by food but not T3 particularly so those of us multi dosing on T3 just have to avoid iron. Keeping 3 doses a day an hour before eating ought not to be any great hardship. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Does this apply to Thyroid-S though, since that is T3 and T4? From what I had understood from NTHA, I had to not only take my Thyroid-S an hour before food/supplements, but also wait until 4 hours have passed since I last ate which means I am only eating every 4-5 hours and that is hard when I have hypoglycemia. I do light snacks, too. It's also confused by the fact that I am taking other vitamins and supplements and was told not to take those right at meal time because it " washes away " the digestive enzymes that I need for eating. Amy > > >But thyroid always has to be taken an hour before food and at least four hours before, right? And separate from supplements containing calcium or iron? > > T4 absorption is affected by food but not T3 particularly so those of > us multi dosing on T3 just have to avoid iron. > > Keeping 3 doses a day an hour before eating ought not to be any great > hardship. > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 And since I'm going to be starting ferrous sulfate, how will that factor in to all of this? I don't think I can do Thyroid-S sublingually > > >But thyroid always has to be taken an hour before food and at least four hours before, right? And separate from supplements containing calcium or iron? > > T4 absorption is affected by food but not T3 particularly so those of > us multi dosing on T3 just have to avoid iron. > > Keeping 3 doses a day an hour before eating ought not to be any great > hardship. > > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Amy, A lot of my muscle stiffness went away when I optimized my potassium and sodium levels after Val posted about it. I am taking 80 MEQ a day of potassium. It helped to graph out both sodium and potassium levels for my doc. Deb in MI > I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > > I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 >Does this apply to Thyroid-S though, since that is T3 and T4? From what I had understood from NTHA, I had to not only take my Thyroid-S an hour before food/supplements, but also wait until 4 hours have passed since I last ate which means I am only eating every 4-5 hours and that is hard when I have hypoglycemia. I do light snacks, too. The T4 is fussier but as long as you take it an hour away from food in either direction should be OK, As long as you are consistent then you can always take a little extra to compensate for loss of absorption. Eating and taking meds at the same times each day will allow you to correct for that Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thanks Deb. I am taking potassium (can't remember how much) because my labs last year showed I was very low, and I think some of my muscle stiffness has gotten better. I am very low in iron, and maybe getting that up and my thyroid will help too! > > Amy, > > A lot of my muscle stiffness went away when I optimized my potassium > and sodium levels after Val posted about it. > > I am taking 80 MEQ a day of potassium. It helped to graph out both sodium and potassium levels for my doc. > > Deb in MI > > > > > I have very dry skin, lots of hair loss, and very low temps (avg. daily is about 97.5). > > > > I have muscle stiffness a lot of the time, and can't hold my chiropractic adjustments more than a few days. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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