Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 <<<Since the surgery limits food and food absorbtion won't it slow the metabolism the same way? " ...>>> Hi Sheila... I don't know the scientific answer to this. It may slow your metabolism, but the important point to remember is YOU'RE NOT ABSORBING ALL THE CALORIES YOU EAT, hence, weight loss. If you have a slow metabolism after surgery, IT DOESN'T MATTER :>)...you will still lose weight because of the malabsorption. Pretty cool, 'eh? heidi Home Page: http://www.myWLS.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 > <<<Since the surgery limits food and food absorbtion won't it slow > the metabolism the same way? " ...>>> > > Hi Sheila... I don't know the scientific answer to this. It may slow > your metabolism, but the important point to remember is YOU'RE NOT > ABSORBING ALL THE CALORIES YOU EAT, hence, weight loss. If you have > a slow metabolism after surgery, IT DOESN'T MATTER :>)...you will > still lose weight because of the malabsorption. Pretty cool, 'eh? > heidi Hi Heidi, Yes mam! I agree that is great ...as long as " if " there is a slowing of the metabolism (like when dieting) that it doesn't slow so much as to counteract the weightloss benefit from the malabsorbtion. The body has such an amazing balancing system that I think her fear is that while malabsorbtion logically causes weightloss that the metabolism could slow equally to compensate for the reduction in nutrients absorbed. I guess that is the big question my mom is wanting me to get answered before she will be satisfied with my choice. It may just be one of those things that there really is no documented answer to. I'll ask Doc about it sometime and of course reading your and others great success stories makes me feel that somehow the metabolism CANNOT win this battle..can't slow down too much as to ruin this surgery because if it could you all wouldn't be so succesful! =o) Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 ladytexan_sheila@... wrote: > " Every time you were on a diet it ended up slowing your metabolism > and defeating the weightloss eventually and many times you gained > back more then you lost. Since the surgery limits food and food > absorbtion won't it slow the metabolism the same way? " ... Hi Sheila, I read somewhere that this does indeed slow down after a certain point, a couple of years. That's what I understood all the " window " talk to be about. As a VBG patient, I am particularly concerned about this but glad to have the added effect of the mal absorption to help me lose weight. After I lose a little bit I am going to get in with an exercise group and do that regularly. I think everything combined here will be very effective, much more than anything I can possibly try on my own. I have printed out the question, though, for my preop on Friday. I'll report back on it when I get a chance. In the meantime, I'd sure like to see others' input here about this. Thanks for asking! Robin F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 (I seem to just be able to pop in, comment on posts I can help with, and pop back out again. I'm in between business trips right now.) Yes, your metabolism WILL slow if ALL you consistently do is reduce calories in. That is why every WLS surgeon with any credibility at all will tell you to EXERCISE now and forever. You have to keep the calories expended up at a rate at least as high as the calories taken in or fat storage WILL OCCUR. Your body doesn't give a fig WHY the calories have stopped coming, it just knows that it has to make do with less and does it! This metabolism thing is one of the factors behind the much-talked-about " window of opportunity " post-op. Activity (exercise) keeps this window open. Take it from one of the slow losers (but still losing!) whose metabolism was already slowed to concentration camp levels by years with RNY. Ya gotta move! This goes double for revisionees! And I know that for pre-ops it sounds like such a tall order, but as you lose, the moving becomes so much easier and enjoyable. Life is great! Regards -- Margie in Austin, TX 5'4 " , pre-revision 275#, 11/22/00 down 50# RNY GB in 1987, revision to DGB/DS 02/01/00 Dr. Crookes, USC University Hospital, LA, CA > > Yes mam! I agree that is great ...as long as " if " there is a > > slowing of the metabolism (like when dieting) that it doesn't slow so > > much as to counteract the weightloss benefit from the malabsorbtion. > > This may be a case where we just have to look at the research and trust in > that data. The Scopinaro BPD has a very long history of being safe and > effective, and the BPD/DS is even safer and just as effective. Remember, > these surgeries have been studied and tweaked over the years to the point > that now we've reached a fairly reliable level of predictability with them. > The studies do not show long-term problems with weight regain or > malnutrition, and those are the best indicator we have of what we can > reasonably expect as we go long-term after surgery. > > M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 (I seem to just be able to pop in, comment on posts I can help with, and pop back out again. I'm in between business trips right now.) Yes, your metabolism WILL slow if ALL you consistently do is reduce calories in. That is why every WLS surgeon with any credibility at all will tell you to EXERCISE now and forever. You have to keep the calories expended up at a rate at least as high as the calories taken in or fat storage WILL OCCUR. Your body doesn't give a fig WHY the calories have stopped coming, it just knows that it has to make do with less and does it! This metabolism thing is one of the factors behind the much-talked-about " window of opportunity " post-op. Activity (exercise) keeps this window open. Take it from one of the slow losers (but still losing!) whose metabolism was already slowed to concentration camp levels by years with RNY. Ya gotta move! This goes double for revisionees! And I know that for pre-ops it sounds like such a tall order, but as you lose, the moving becomes so much easier and enjoyable. Life is great! Regards -- Margie in Austin, TX 5'4 " , pre-revision 275#, 11/22/00 down 50# RNY GB in 1987, revision to DGB/DS 02/01/00 Dr. Crookes, USC University Hospital, LA, CA > > Yes mam! I agree that is great ...as long as " if " there is a > > slowing of the metabolism (like when dieting) that it doesn't slow so > > much as to counteract the weightloss benefit from the malabsorbtion. > > This may be a case where we just have to look at the research and trust in > that data. The Scopinaro BPD has a very long history of being safe and > effective, and the BPD/DS is even safer and just as effective. Remember, > these surgeries have been studied and tweaked over the years to the point > that now we've reached a fairly reliable level of predictability with them. > The studies do not show long-term problems with weight regain or > malnutrition, and those are the best indicator we have of what we can > reasonably expect as we go long-term after surgery. > > M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2000 Report Share Posted November 30, 2000 (I seem to just be able to pop in, comment on posts I can help with, and pop back out again. I'm in between business trips right now.) Yes, your metabolism WILL slow if ALL you consistently do is reduce calories in. That is why every WLS surgeon with any credibility at all will tell you to EXERCISE now and forever. You have to keep the calories expended up at a rate at least as high as the calories taken in or fat storage WILL OCCUR. Your body doesn't give a fig WHY the calories have stopped coming, it just knows that it has to make do with less and does it! This metabolism thing is one of the factors behind the much-talked-about " window of opportunity " post-op. Activity (exercise) keeps this window open. Take it from one of the slow losers (but still losing!) whose metabolism was already slowed to concentration camp levels by years with RNY. Ya gotta move! This goes double for revisionees! And I know that for pre-ops it sounds like such a tall order, but as you lose, the moving becomes so much easier and enjoyable. Life is great! Regards -- Margie in Austin, TX 5'4 " , pre-revision 275#, 11/22/00 down 50# RNY GB in 1987, revision to DGB/DS 02/01/00 Dr. Crookes, USC University Hospital, LA, CA > > Yes mam! I agree that is great ...as long as " if " there is a > > slowing of the metabolism (like when dieting) that it doesn't slow so > > much as to counteract the weightloss benefit from the malabsorbtion. > > This may be a case where we just have to look at the research and trust in > that data. The Scopinaro BPD has a very long history of being safe and > effective, and the BPD/DS is even safer and just as effective. Remember, > these surgeries have been studied and tweaked over the years to the point > that now we've reached a fairly reliable level of predictability with them. > The studies do not show long-term problems with weight regain or > malnutrition, and those are the best indicator we have of what we can > reasonably expect as we go long-term after surgery. > > M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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