What's difference between Cytomel and Sustained Release T3?

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I would appreciate any input on the differences and why one is preferred over another. I see my doc Monday and am not really sure what to ask for. s protocol talks about 12 hour sustained released compounded T3 but I read here about taking Cytomel throughout the day. Thanks for any advice, opinion and/or experiences you've had. Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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> I would appreciate any input on the differences and why one is

> preferred over another. I see my doc Monday and am not really sure

> what to ask for. s protocol talks about 12 hour sustained

> released compounded T3 but I read here about taking Cytomel throughout

> the day. Thanks for any advice, opinion and/or experiences you've had.

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> Kem in Eugene

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T3SR is Cytomel (or a generic of it) with what's called a " time release matrix "

added to make it dissolve and distribute into your system over a period of about

12 hours instead of the 2-4 it usually lasts and is active in your system. T3SR

is very expensive, about $1+ per pill and all of the compounding pharmacies I've

used, don't accept insurance. Perhaps the one in Eugene (I live there too) will.

My experience, 18 months on T3SR with a 's practitioner is, for reasons

that I don't entirely understand, I had lots of periods of uneveness of meds in

my system and symptoms to go with. I'm now on a multiple dose regimen of a T3

generic and having lots better results - actually near resolution it seems to

me.If you have difficulty with your new doc, I have some ideas.I also needed

attention to adrenals, iron, selenium, slow digestion problems - all assoc.

w/hypothyroid, etc. It's not quite as simple as makes out, despite his

successes.OK to communicate with me offline at morrislee71@....

Good luck.

Lee

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Kem: see my response below, Lee

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> I would appreciate any input on the differences and why one is

> preferred over another. I see my doc Monday and am not really sure

> what to ask for. s protocol talks about 12 hour sustained

> released compounded T3 but I read here about taking Cytomel throughout

> the day. Thanks for any advice, opinion and/or experiences you've had.

>

>

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> Kem in Eugene

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Hi Lee, were you seeing Dr. for RT3 issue? When I have to compound anything like LDN or NT I use Broadway Apocathary and sometimes their meds don't seem to be all the same, maybe it's the mixing procedure? I just ordered s dr. book and while looking through it it does appear you have to take a few cycles on doing this sometimes. He says it can take a while. Honestly to me, it seems if T3 is the active hormone I wonder why T4 is necessary at all. Anyway I do seem to fit the RT3 thing, not sure how that works out on labs though. My free T4 was like 77 (range .6-1.2) and free T3 was 3.18 (range 2.4-4.2) and the free t3 had come down from my last test (3.50) while my T4 stayed the same. My RT3 test came back with a ratio of 16.8 when my free t3 was 3.50. Labs confuse me. I started out with my gyn. Dr. Jan Stafl and he's really awesome but doesn't know much about rt3 issues and does not like HC so I'm seeing Dr. Emond now and she's the one that put me on LDN, HC and seems to know some things, at least she's open like Dr. Stafl. I see Emond Monday and will talk to her about the T3 thing, she's going to take tests for sure.<<Posted by: "Lee" morrislee71@... morrislee71Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:06 pm (PST)>> I would appreciate any input on the differences and why one is > preferred over another. I see my doc Monday and am not really sure > what to ask for. s protocol talks about 12 hour sustained > released compounded T3 but I read here about taking Cytomel throughout > the day. Thanks for any advice, opinion and/or experiences you've had.> > Kem in Eugene> <º)))><>T3SR is Cytomel (or a generic of it) with what's called a "time release matrix" added to make it dissolve and distribute into your system over a period of about 12 hours instead of the 2-4 it usually lasts and is active in your system. T3SR is very expensive, about $1+ per pill and all of the compounding pharmacies I've used, don't accept insurance. Perhaps the one in Eugene (I live there too) will. My experience, 18 months on T3SR with a 's practitioner is, for reasons that I don't entirely understand, I had lots of periods of uneveness of meds in my system and symptoms to go with. I'm now on a multiple dose regimen of a T3 generic and having lots better results - actually near resolution it seems to me.If you have difficulty with your new doc, I have some ideas.I also needed attention to adrenals, iron, selenium, slow digestion problems - all assoc. w/hypothyroid, etc. It's not quite as simple as makes out, despite his successes.OK to communicate with me offline atmorrislee71.Good luck.Lee >> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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Val

Fine. I just happened to know about doctors, pharmacies and labs in this area

and such info is of little value beyond. I will observe group protocols.

Lee

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> OK to communicate with me offline

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> OK please don't do this. We strive to keep ALL conversations ON the group so

we can all learn from them, this is th purpose of a community forum such as

this. We ARE private in that no search engine on the web will bring up our posts

and this is done to protect our privacy among our members.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Yes. She was first WTS trained ND I saw. Disappointing experience professionally

and personally. I left her, found an ND in S. CA near where my daughter lives

and worked with her by email and phone for 18 months. Trouble communicating: she

has thick Russian accent and misses American cultural signals and I have hearing

loss!I did multiple cycles on WTS, always capturing. But in attempting to taper,

I always relapsed. Probably, selenium, iron and HC issues, but she wasn't able

to communicate effectively or guide me about that. I saw a local MD who seemed

open-minded and Rx'd me non SR T3 which I've been taking for a month - with

excellent results. In the meantime, I found the Info site accomopanying this and

have begun to correct for other issues. I'm seeing an ANP for the first time

next week with a main purpose of getting diagnosed for possible cortisol

insufficiency. I will let you know how that turns our and if she's " on our

side " . But I feel better than I have in years.The local doc turns out to be

unwilling to treat beyond what they taught him in med school so we've parted.

I've, of course located the Mexican pharmacy and now have supply of Grossmans

(Nick talks about it here and in explan. site).It does seem more potent to me.By

the time I found out about Broadway, I'd moved on to multiple doses of straight

T3.

Both my docs didn't worry much about labs, but had me religiously track

temp and pulse and use those as primary indicators. Worked fine early on.

Bit about labs: T3 is actual metabolic workhorse; rT3 serves role of

regulating/modulating available T3 to meet constantly changing needs. As result

of stress, some people start making too much rT3 and it over regulates leading

to what we got. In this condition, the T4 which used to be the source of the

good T3, is now supplying a source for too much rT3 ('s graphic expln. of

this is v.good). In therapy suggested here, taking T3 rather than converting it

from T4, removes this source of the rT3 and over time you get enough T3 to serve

metabolic needs. Clear?

The FT3/rT3 ratio shows whether and to what extent there is too much rT3

compared to free T3. If there is not twenty times more FT3 than rT3, the rT3 is

definitely interfering with with metabolism and, of course, this is a kind of

proof of the presence of the condition.

Sorry this is so bloody long. But once you get this in the can...

Kem, I'm retired so have plenty of time to answer questions and enjoy doing so.

Lee

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> > I would appreciate any input on the differences and why one is

> > preferred over another. I see my doc Monday and am not really sure

> > what to ask for. s protocol talks about 12 hour sustained

> > released compounded T3 but I read here about taking Cytomel

> throughout

> > the day. Thanks for any advice, opinion and/or experiences you've

> had.

> >

> > Kem in Eugene

> > <º)))><

> >

> T3SR is Cytomel (or a generic of it) with what's called a " time

> release matrix " added to make it dissolve and distribute into your

> system over a period of about 12 hours instead of the 2-4 it usually

> lasts and is active in your system. T3SR is very expensive, about $1+

> per pill and all of the compounding pharmacies I've used, don't accept

> insurance. Perhaps the one in Eugene (I live there too) will. My

> experience, 18 months on T3SR with a 's practitioner is, for

> reasons that I don't entirely understand, I had lots of periods of

> uneveness of meds in my system and symptoms to go with. I'm now on a

> multiple dose regimen of a T3 generic and having lots better results -

> actually near resolution it seems to me.If you have difficulty with

> your new doc, I have some ideas.I also needed attention to adrenals,

> iron, selenium, slow digestion problems - all assoc. w/hypothyroid,

> etc. It's not quite as simple as makes out, despite his

> successes.OK to communicate with me offline atmorrislee71@...

> Good luck.

> Lee >>

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> Kem in Eugene

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