Re: Re: Strange reaction from upping from 35 to 40 mcg T3...

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>Didn't stress dose until now,

WHY, Stress doses are just that, needed AT THE TIME. You had exhaused

cortisol levels and were pumping adrenaline instead. You needed

cortisol THEN, not now.

>when I took my second dose of 7.5 mg HC for today with my second dose of 10 mcg

T 3 for today. Took 2.5 mg HC extra. Feeling very lazy.....

Hypo now the adrenaline is wearing off

>I am very worried, and it becomes a mental stress for me, that I am upping T3

too slow. Maybe I can just up tonight? Like make it: 10, 10, 10, 10 (incl. +5

new dose), 5 ?

I said that dose for a reason. I am trying to improve your sleep

quality, if you get better sleep and are less hypo overnight you will

feel better in the day

>Going out now with my wife. Valentines Day. I would rather go straight to some

ER. I feel very weird. VERY weak.

Have a good afternoon, you wouldn't enjoy the ER, they can't do

anything to help

>How do ou think FT3 is looking in my blood at the moment? Is it too low you

think? Nobody knows, I know. It was 6.3 last time I checked the blood. But I've

upped to 35, and to 40 mcg T3 since then.

Your FT3 needs to be over range a little to stand any chance of

clearing hypo symptoms due to resistance still

>

I am going out now and may not be on again this evening.

I am working away next week and may not have much time to be on line

Nick

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Cause I had no idea I needed to stress dose! I was thinking I was low on T3, not HC! I also stress dosed before we went to the restaurant, so a total of 5 mg HC extra today. Feel a bit more awake now, but man, I was so exhausted and lazy earlier. I didn't feel any adrenaline at all. Just laziness.Ok, so I'll not add 5 mcg T3 to the fourth dose but rather try adding 5 mcg to the last dose, sublingually? We'll see what I dare trying out. :pScary thought that the ER can't help me.Thanks, and have a good afternoon yourself! (And all you others reading this!) Hope you've recovered from your temporary condition!

>Didn't stress dose until now,

WHY, Stress doses are just that, needed AT THE TIME. You had exhaused

cortisol levels and were pumping adrenaline instead. You needed

cortisol THEN, not now.

>when I took my second dose of 7.5 mg HC for today with my second dose of 10 mcg T 3 for today. Took 2.5 mg HC extra. Feeling very lazy.....

Hypo now the adrenaline is wearing off

>I am very worried, and it becomes a mental stress for me, that I am upping T3 too slow. Maybe I can just up tonight? Like make it: 10, 10, 10, 10 (incl. +5 new dose), 5 ?

I said that dose for a reason. I am trying to improve your sleep

quality, if you get better sleep and are less hypo overnight you will

feel better in the day

>Going out now with my wife. Valentines Day. I would rather go straight to some ER. I feel very weird. VERY weak.

Have a good afternoon, you wouldn't enjoy the ER, they can't do

anything to help

>How do ou think FT3 is looking in my blood at the moment? Is it too low you think? Nobody knows, I know. It was 6.3 last time I checked the blood. But I've upped to 35, and to 40 mcg T3 since then.

Your FT3 needs to be over range a little to stand any chance of

clearing hypo symptoms due to resistance still

>

I am going out now and may not be on again this evening.

I am working away next week and may not have much time to be on line

Nick

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, if you're here, would it be ok for me to up my T3 today, on the 4th fay of 40 mcg? I am in week 10. Been very slow upping due to Ferritin. And being scared of doing things too fast.What do you recommend?Happy VD to all!!!

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As 40mcg is stil a pretty low dose you should be fine.

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Thanks Val.LOL, I think now it's a matter of being worried of taking too LITTLE T3, not too much! I really have more pulse in the 60s than in the 80s now. Which is a bad thing, so, it means.. Need more T3!Do you think it's likely that FT3 is not towards the top range not and that I can safely add more T3 or do you think there's a chance my NOT perfect Ferritin level is causing T3 to pool? Or maybe even low cortisol causing T3 to pool?

 

As 40mcg is stil a pretty low dose you should be fine.

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But I will probably need more. Isn't 80 mcg a "minimum" for most people with rT3-resistance?

 

As 40mcg is stil a pretty low dose you should be fine.

[Guest guest]

Remember that a slump after exercise is cortisol and stress dose as

soon as you feel it.

>Ok, so I'll not add 5 mcg T3 to the fourth dose but rather try adding 5 mcg to

the last dose, sublingually? We'll see what I dare trying out.

I hope you slept better

>

>Scary thought that the ER can't help me.

>

Because it's not a life threatening condition hitting a cortisol slump

>Thanks, and have a good afternoon yourself! (And all you others reading this!)

Hope you've recovered from your temporary condition!

I'm a lot better thanks, got 1/3 of the way on my trip for Monday last

night so that's going to make it less tiring in the morning.

Sleep patterns still a bit disturbed (wide awake at 3am as I write

this) but digestion settled down and ate a full portion of Chinese

takeaway last night and enjoyed it which is the most I had eaten in

one sitting since last Tuesday.

I am working away this week and have no idea how much I will be on

Nick

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>But I will probably need more. Isn't 80 mcg a " minimum " for most people with

rT3-resistance?

" Most people " need between 75 and 125 AFTER resistance clears. Some

need more and some less.

Nick

[Guest guest]

Ok. And one knows resistance clears by getting higher pulse and temp?Do you think I can add 5 mcg to my regime today, and make it: 10, 10, 10, 10 and 5 mcg T3? Or do you only recommend me upping the last 5 to 10 sub?I am worried about my Ferritin wich is 55 without stopping iron supps for 5 days first. :(Yesterday at the movies in the evening I felt stressed though.

>But I will probably need more. Isn't 80 mcg a "minimum" for most people with rT3-resistance?

"Most people" need between 75 and 125 AFTER resistance clears. Some

need more and some less.

 

Nick 

[Guest guest]

>Ok. And one knows resistance clears by getting higher pulse and temp?

Or stopping feeling hypo, the " fog lifting " as it were.

>

>Do you think I can add 5 mcg to my regime today, and make it: 10, 10, 10, 10

and 5 mcg T3? Or do you only recommend me upping the last 5 to 10 sub?

I thought you were going to do it yesterday. I really think doing it

the way I say will be less strain on your body, do it whichever way

you like but if you want my suggestion then do it as a bed time dose

sublingually.

>

>I am worried about my Ferritin wich is 55 without stopping iron supps for 5

days first.

>Yesterday at the movies in the evening I felt stressed though.

Get the T3 up, I thought you were going to do it yesterday, every day

that you prevaricate the lower the levels get.

Nick

[Guest guest]

First of all, thanks for your advices and replies Nick!As for stopping feeling hypo, is it possible to even just stay at for example 40 mcg T3? I mean.. Hmm! How does that work? Don't we all HAVE to go down to TSH <0.01 and get that FT4 down towards Zero?I feel clear in my mind today, and my vision is quite good. It's up and down from hour to hour. I still don't feel comfortable with my diet. Every now and then I eat some carbs, and I have no idea how many I can eat before I start feeling bad. I try to avoid most carbs though.If my Ferritin is going down now, and I take more T3, won't that increase the chance that T3 starts pooling in the blood and that the FT3's we're getting in the blood samples from now on will be false highs?I will try to up the dose every 3-4 days from now on. It was only 4 days since I upped to 40 mcg,

so today is day 5 and I will up today!As for taking 10, 10, 10, 10, 5 (or 5, 10), what do I do when all doses are 10? Do I add another slot or start taking more on the morning dose = 15 ?T.

>Ok. And one knows resistance clears by getting higher pulse and temp?

Or stopping feeling hypo, the "fog lifting" as it were.

>

>Do you think I can add 5 mcg to my regime today, and make it: 10, 10, 10, 10 and 5 mcg T3? Or do you only recommend me upping the last 5 to 10 sub?

I thought you were going to do it yesterday. I really think doing it

the way I say will be less strain on your body, do it whichever way

you like but if you want my suggestion then do it as a bed time dose

sublingually.

>

>I am worried about my Ferritin wich is 55 without stopping iron supps for 5 days first.

>Yesterday at the movies in the evening I felt stressed though.

Get the T3 up, I thought you were going to do it yesterday, every day

that you prevaricate the lower the levels get.

Nick

[Guest guest]

>First of all, thanks for your advices and replies Nick!

>

>As for stopping feeling hypo, is it possible to even just stay at for example

40 mcg T3? I mean.. Hmm! How does that work? Don't we all HAVE to go down to TSH

<0.01 and get that FT4 down towards Zero?

You prodably need to go onto a full replacement dose, ie, chase the

compensation to the end, before you can stabilise. This is

particularly the case as you have type 2 Hypo, your tsh won't

stabilise things in the right place.

>

>I feel clear in my mind today, and my vision is quite good. It's up and down

from hour to hour.

Sounds good

>I still don't feel comfortable with my diet. Every now and then I eat some

carbs, and I have no idea how many I can eat before I start feeling bad. I try

to avoid most carbs though.

I can't comment.

>If my Ferritin is going down now, and I take more T3, won't that increase the

chance that T3 starts pooling in the blood and that the FT3's we're getting in

the blood samples from now on will be false highs?

The FT3 will be a real FT3, it may not represent what's getting into

the cells but RT3 is causing that effect anyway. If you get that T3 up

properly instead of loitering and saying " do you REALLY mean me to

increase " every day for a week before increasing then you will stop

losing ferritin.

>

>I will try to up the dose every 3-4 days from now on. It was only 4 days since

I upped to 40 mcg, so today is day 5 and I will up today!

>

yes, you may be better every 3 rather than 4 as you have slipped

behind so far.

>As for taking 10, 10, 10, 10, 5 (or 5, 10), what do I do when all doses are 10?

Do I add another slot or start taking more on the morning dose = 15 ?

>T.

Yep, try this sort of pattern for increases. Remember each time you

are adding 5 it's a smaller step increase as it's a smaller percentage

of what you are on. This pattern will keep the increases spread out.

After you have done a couple more you could go to 2 day intervals.

15, 10, 10, 10, 10

15, 10, 10, 10, 15

15, 10, 15, 10, 15

15, 15, 15, 10, 15

15, 15, 15, 15, 15

20, 15, 15, 15, 20

20, 15, 20, 15, 20

20, 20. 20. 15. 20

20. 20, 20, 20, 20 = 120. You may not need to go this far, go above

here cautiously.

After that I would add doses if needed rather than add any more than a

whole tablet at a dose, it's more convenient like that.

Nick