Re: Twelfth week and not feeling much better...

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February 12, 2010

Hi ! Thank you very much for your reply.

It wouldn´t surprise me if the fast pulse is caused by adrenaline. I have for as

long as I can remember had symptoms that I would describe as a feeling of

adrenaline going through my body. I feel very stressed constantly, I talk fast

and I eat fast, and I just can´t slow down even if I try to. I feel very tense

and I never feel tired. I mean I feel exhausted all the time, but never sleepy.

It constantly feels like I have drunk 50 cups of coffe or taken some other

stimulant.

I have had hypo symptoms since I was a child and all that time I have had this

feeling of high adrenalin as well.

I did a mineral analysis a couple of years ago (symptoms then were the same as

now), it was done by measuring the levels inside the cells of the blood. I

believe that that kind of testing is called RBC mineral testing in english, and

according to the results my sodium was fine but my potassium was very low. But

maybe that has changed now.

You asked about my symptoms, what symptoms do you mean? Do you want me to write

a list of all my symptoms? I would be happy to do that.

Thanks a lot for your help! You and Nick are amazing.

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> What symptoms do you have? Fast pulse can eb from other things such as

> low sodium, high or low cortils or high adrenaline.

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February 12, 2010

Why don't you supplement that lwo potassium? I had normal serum levels

4.2 adn low RBC and I am now taking 7500mg potassium a day and feelign

mUCH better.itDID lower my pulse and my BP as well. But for the

adrnelaine feelings, not sure that would be form that but a 24 hour

urine coricosteroid metabolites would certainly tell what is going on

with that,. It can also be done while on HC as you are not looking for

cortisol.

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February 12, 2010

Thanks a lot for your reply Sherry! It is very kind of you to help me, I really

appreciate it.

I keep reading stories about members who feel a little better almost immedeately

after starting T3, and I am really happy for them, but it has made me worried

that maybe I should have noticed more improvement by now. But I feel calmer now

knowing that it took longer for you.

And maybe you are right that it takes longer for me since I took a low dose the

first couple of weeks.

I am definitely not giving up. I just worry a lot, I have been sick with severe

symptoms for so long and my biggest fear has always been that I won´t find a

cure for my symptoms. I think I will worry until the day that I have recovered

completely Not until then will I be able to relax and allow myself to believe

that everything is going to be okay.

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> I think you should hang in there. It was the 13th week before I noticed some

change.

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> My thought is that maybe it could take longer since the first several weeks

your dosage was still pretty low. The other thing is the strength of the

particular T3 you are taking is unknown.

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> Sherry

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February 12, 2010

I have never taken potassium supplements because the nutritional practitioner

didn´t think it was necessary. But maybe she was wrong? I was deficient in

magnesium as well, and according to her that was the cause of my potassium

deficiency. She told me that the potassium deficiency would correct itself once

I had corrected the magnesium deficiency, apparently the potassium found in

foods would be enough so I wouldn´t have to take a potassium supplement. Do you

think that she was wrong?

I took magnesium supplements for about a year and a half and then did an

analysis again, and acording to the results my magnesium deficiency had improved

but my potassium deficiency hadn´t changed much. I didn´t stop taking magnesium

before the analysis was done, maybe that should be done just like when you test

ferritin? I still take magnesium.

Here are the results. Maybe it was wrong to say that the potassium deficiency

was very low, but at least it is too low.

First one, done in 2007:

Magnesium 30,03 (34-36)

Potassium: 1653 (1750-1850)

Second, done in 2008:

Magnesium 32,70 (34-36)

Potassium: 1669 (1750-1850)

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> Why don't you supplement that lwo potassium? I had normal serum levels

> 4.2 adn low RBC and I am now taking 7500mg potassium a day and feelign

> mUCH better.itDID lower my pulse and my BP as well. But for the

> adrnelaine feelings, not sure that would be form that but a 24 hour

> urine coricosteroid metabolites would certainly tell what is going on

> with that,. It can also be done while on HC as you are not looking for

> cortisol.

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February 12, 2010

I forgot to ask... If I am able to do the 24 hour urine coricosteroid

metabolites test and it reveals that not everything is the way it should be, is

it then possible that it is caused by the hypothyroidism? Is it then also

possible that it will correct itself once I am no longer hypo?

Thanks !

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> Why don't you supplement that lwo potassium? I had normal serum levels

> 4.2 adn low RBC and I am now taking 7500mg potassium a day and feelign

> mUCH better.itDID lower my pulse and my BP as well. But for the

> adrnelaine feelings, not sure that would be form that but a 24 hour

> urine coricosteroid metabolites would certainly tell what is going on

> with that,. It can also be done while on HC as you are not looking for

> cortisol.

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February 12, 2010

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Thsi explains how soodium and poiotassium get into the cells from the

serum. Low SODIUM could cause low potassium and visa versa, but I do nto

believe supplementing magnesium has much ot do with this at all.

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February 12, 2010

Magnesium 30,03 (34-36)

Potassium: 1653 (1750-1850)

Second, done in 2008:

Magnesium 32,70 (34-36)

Potassium: 1669 (1750-1850)

This kind of proves my point. Magnesium has dome up quite a bit abnd potassium

hardly at all. So you have serum sodium and potassium labs recently?

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February 12, 2010

No you would be looking for an excess of adrenaline whihc might indicate

an adrenaline producing tumor or adrenal hyperplasia.

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February 12, 2010

This is really interesting, thank you so much for making me pay attention to my

potassium deficiency. When I got the results from my second analysis back I

actually didn´t notice that my potassium deficiency hadn´t changed. I was so

focused on my magnesium deficiency that I didn´t pay any attention at all to the

potassium.

I haven´t had my potassium or sodium tested since the second analysis, and it

was done in October in 2008. But I now realize that I maybe should have it

tested again. My symptoms then were exactly the same as now. Here is the sodium

results:

2007:

Sodium 1939 (1900-2000)

2008:

Sodium: 2069 (1900-2000)

Do you think that the second magnesium result that I posted in my previous

message is correct by the way? Or is it possible that the result is misleading

since I did´t stop taking magnesium before doing the analysis?

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> Magnesium 30,03 (34-36)

> Potassium: 1653 (1750-1850)

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> Second, done in 2008:

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> Magnesium 32,70 (34-36)

> Potassium: 1669 (1750-1850)

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> This kind of proves my point. Magnesium has dome up quite a bit abnd potassium

hardly at all. So you have serum sodium and potassium labs recently?

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February 12, 2010

I am not really sure how loing to stop magnesium before testiung an RBC

test., But sodium and potassium changer very fast and your SODIUM is WAY

low. Which I am sure is oartially responsible for the low RBC ootassium

but you need ot get serum electrolytes tested too to knwo what to do

wiht them. High serum potassium can kill you. So we need ot test it both

ways thne if serumn is high and RBC low, you need to add salt to take th

high serum levels into the cells.

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