Strange reactions to upping to 40 mcg T3

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>I am guessing that high FT3 is very, very bad for me, thus making T3-only

treatment a certain risk for me.

you haven't got high FT3 with that pulse!!

Nick

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Ok, I need to raise T3 sooner and not wait 7-8 days between each raise as I've been doing lately. BUT what if my Ferritin ISN'T high enough? And what if my heart, with it's faulty electrical wiring by birth, isn't tolerating "fast" increases of T3, or even T3-meds at all?I was just out at the local Sushi and had about 6 pieces of sushi, with white rice and some gluten-free soy sauce (I know it's bad for me but it's not that much and I don't eat it often!). So, on the way to the car, about 1 hour after taking 5 mg HC and 10 mcg T3 at the restaurant, it was freezing outside. And when I got to the car and sat into it, my heart started skipping beats. And kept doing so for maybe 2 minutes.WHY!?!?!? Is it the carbs from rice? Was it the cold weather the triggerred it? Or is it what I suspect; Everytime I crunch my stomach, my heart start

skipping beats? - If the last case is the truth, is this related to Hypothyroidism or Adrenal Fatigue at all? Can it be too much internal fat surrounding the heart, and maybe pushing on my intestines? I've felt my heart skip sometimes when I sit down in my sofa, with my big belly sticking out, crunching as I sit down - The heart starts skipping beats! WHAT is this?

>Increased yesterday, and my pulse seems to have gone down today. Instead of going up!

As expected and as happens before. The more hypo you get the more

adrenaline runs in your body the more it stimulates your pulse and

your mind

And I've been feeling terrible stressed this evening. But now, at 10-11 pm, I've also had some weird skipped beats. About 1 and 1 1/2 hour after taking T3, my fourth dose, at 5 mcg: It feels like the heart stops for 2-3 seconds, a bit hard, and it's a bit painful. Then it starts again. A strange variant of a skipped beat.

A typical hypo symptom. Those last doses are only 5 so they wear off

quicker. that will have peaked after 30 mins and been well on the way

down by the time you had that effect

>Feeling exhausted now. Pulse is in the 60s. It's been typoically around 76-80 in the past weeks on 30-35 mcg T3.

Hypo!!!

>Can this slower pulse have something to do with electrolytes? Too much calcium? Too much Magnesium?

Too little T3, you need to raise sooner

Nick

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I take your word on it!But I was wondering about the "knot" I have on my Thyroid gland. While small, it's there for a reason. Can this knot "hold back" T3 hormone, and suddenly release a bunch of it, creating high FT3 and giving me heart issues such as serious fibrillation? Maybe that's what happened 2 years ago. What do you think, Nick?

>I am guessing that high FT3 is very, very bad for me, thus making T3-only treatment a certain risk for me.

you haven't got high FT3 with that pulse!!

   

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But Nick, it's only 2 days since I increased to 40 mcg. I can't increasr to 45 mcg T3 on the third day! Can I? Shounds too fast to me! Besides, I know nothing about my current Ferritin level! I did feel VERY awake at the Sushi restaurant. I couldn't close my eyes. They were WIDE open. A good feeling! But the rest of me feels weird and wrong, tummy is horrible (too big!) and the heart is the main issue here. It feels like it's living its own life in there. :\

>Increased yesterday, and my pulse seems to have gone down today. Instead of going up!

As expected and as happens before. The more hypo you get the more

adrenaline runs in your body the more it stimulates your pulse and

your mind

> 

And I've been feeling terrible stressed this evening. But now, at 10-11 pm, I've also >had some weird skipped beats. About 1 and 1 1/2 hour after taking T3, my fourth dose, >at 5 mcg: It feels like the heart stops for 2-3 seconds, a bit hard, and it's a bit painful. >Then it starts again. A strange variant of a skipped beat. 

A typical hypo symptom. Those last doses are only 5 so they wear off

quicker. that will have peaked after 30 mins and been well on the way

down by the time you had that effect

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> Can this knot " hold back " T3 hormone, and suddenly release a bunch of it,

creating high FT3 and giving me heart issues such as serious fibrillation? Maybe

that's what happened 2 years ago. What do you think, Nick?

Have you had this nodule biopsied??

Whatever it is lowering your TSH down to 0.1 or under will lower it's

activity enormously and make anything less likely to change suddenly

Nick

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>But Nick, it's only 2 days since I increased to 40 mcg. I can't increasr to 45

mcg T3 on the third day! Can I?

YES, you are still hypo, you left it so late that you should have gone

up by 10.

the guidelines on the web site suggest

>Following the pattern of increases that I've talked about here and going up

initially by 6.25 every 3 to 5 days and then by 12.5 every 5 to 7 days

(depending on whether you feel you need/can tolerate an increase) you will

probably end up on around 75mcg at around the 8 week mark. By this time your T4

levels will have decayed to an insignificant level and you will be able to

adjust dose every 3 to 5 days to try and clear hypo symptoms.

I stand by those now your ferritin is reasonable and still being

supplemented.

>Shounds too fast to me! Besides, I know nothing about my current Ferritin

level! I did feel VERY awake at the Sushi restaurant. I couldn't close my eyes.

They were WIDE open. A good feeling! But the rest of me feels weird and wrong,

tummy is horrible (too big!) and the heart is the main issue here. It feels like

it's living its own life in there. :\

Um, burst of iodine from the suchi stimulating your thyroid because

your TSH is so high due to you being hypo???

The other issue is that your T3 may well be a LOT less potent than

the good brands. If it's the same as the British that comes in 20mcg

tablets I've heard pretty derogatory reports about it.

Nick

[Guest guest]

>WHY!?!?!? Is it the carbs from rice? Was it the cold weather the triggerred it?

Or the iodine in the sushi?

>Or is it what I suspect; Everytime I crunch my stomach, my heart start skipping

beats? - If the last case is the truth, is this related to Hypothyroidism or

Adrenal Fatigue at all? Can it be too much internal fat surrounding the heart,

and maybe pushing on my intestines? I've felt my heart skip sometimes when I sit

down in my sofa, with my big belly sticking out, crunching as I sit down - The

heart starts skipping beats! WHAT is this?

it could be long term under treated hypo. Get a decent dose into you

and you stand a chance.

Tonight do what I said, take the iron and at the same time take the T3

sublingually but take 10mcg instead of 5. If some misses absorbtion

you won't be any worse off and you might get a decent nights sleep and

wake refreshed and less hypo.

Take all that as you turn the light out

Nick

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I found the nodule myself with an ultrasound in the summer of 2008. Nobody wanted to do anything about it. Every endo and doc I met kept repeating it's normal to have nodules. Most healthy people have 2-3 nodules, they said. The person taking my ultrasound had 3 nodules and was healthy!You can only do a biopsy on it if you stop taking thyroid meds completely. I was very close to stopping about 2 months ago when I was taking 10 mcg T3-only daily. . . . . . . I did plan to check out this nodule, but, didn't happen.My TSH was always <0.01 - But I still got that heart issue, the fibrillation of some sort! I believe it was something that could've killed me! It was SOOOO fast, and the heart was not beating, but shaking and it felt like 10.000 needles stabbing me in the heart for 20 minutes! I was not on HC at the time so my

adrenals could've been seriously unstable at the time. And who knows what rT3 was like at the time.So if TSH is 0.01, FT3 could still theoretically go up high, due to low cortisol and/or low Ferritin. Am I right? Pooling!

> Can this knot "hold back" T3 hormone, and suddenly release a bunch of it, creating high FT3 and giving me heart issues such as serious fibrillation? Maybe that's what happened 2 years ago. What do you think, Nick?

Have you had this nodule biopsied??

Whatever it is lowering your TSH down to 0.1 or under will lower it's

activity enormously and make anything less likely to change suddenly

Nick

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That totally makes sense. Think this happened to me on low doses and never stress dosing cause I felt like crap after a while when raising; I was too affraid to go higher.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryDate: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:09:56 -0000To: <RT3_T3 >Subject: Re: Strange reactions to upping to 40 mcg T3 Val, what factors/symptoms did you have that caused you to bump your HC to 40 mg/day? Is 40 something you suggest to most people? I'm feeling better on 30 mg HC, but my temp is not yet stable after 10 days nor is it between the 98.2-98.6 range. Is this something I should consider? Thanks,Jeanne>> No 30mg HC is NOT the limit, I dont; know how ANY realistic doctor cna > oput a limit on how much HC we might need at a given moment. Truth is > they donot know, and if thewy are truly honest they shouldtell you that. > Rememebr my history,. 10minths on 20mg total waste of time. 2 years on > 30mg better but stil NOT WELL> Went to aLL t3 THEN RAISED TO 40MG Healed > adrenals in 3 months. My adrenals were nOT horrible to begin wiht. I > actually think they got worse oin the too low doses I was taking.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>

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But iodine is a good thing for me? I hear Mark Starr say Hypo people should take Lugol's Iodine, and we can even lower our HC doses if we do so.Long term undertreated? Tell me in what way you mean so? I felt sooo amazing for years on T4-only!!!!!I was looking and feeling great up til 2007. However, I had my tachycardias since the age of 13. I am now 31. Why did the tachycardia stop when my endo stopped T3-meds in February 2008? I've had tachycardia every year, plenty of times, before 2008. But not after. WHY!?!? What's going on with my body?I would love to take the T3 sublingually, but if it's not made to do so, I guess the absorption could be horrible! :\ I dunno. Thanks for the advice though.

>WHY!?!?!? Is it the carbs from rice? Was it the cold weather the triggerred it?

Or the iodine in the sushi?

>Or is it what I suspect; Everytime I crunch my stomach, my heart start skipping beats? - If the last case is the truth, is this related to Hypothyroidism or Adrenal Fatigue at all? Can it be too much internal fat surrounding the heart, and maybe pushing on my intestines? I've felt my heart skip sometimes when I sit down in my sofa, with my big belly sticking out, crunching as I sit down - The heart starts skipping beats! WHAT is this?

it could be long term under treated hypo. Get a decent dose into you

and you stand a chance.

Tonight do what I said, take the iron and at the same time take the T3

sublingually but take 10mcg instead of 5. If some misses absorbtion

you won't be any worse off and you might get a decent nights sleep and

wake refreshed and less hypo.

Take all that as you turn the light out

Nick

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I couldn't raise T3 as fast as I wanted due to low Ferritin!I am now at 40 mcg daily. Been for 3 days. When would you suggest an increase in the dose again? And by 10 mcg you say? So you mean what I am doing now is very bad, and gangerous, because my T4 is so low? It's at 8.3 (range: 8 - 20) - Do I need to HURRY to increase my doses? I am in the middle of week 10 now and I'm on 40 mcg daily!Where else would I get "good" T3? I have no idea if the one I am using now is good or bad. How can I figure that out? It's made by Nycomed Pharma here in Norway. Called "Liothyronin". 20 mcg tablets. They say you can use 40 to 60 mcg daily as a full substitute dose for adults. "But one should rather use T4-meds for a more stable medication" they say. Haha.

>But Nick, it's only 2 days since I increased to 40 mcg. I can't increasr to 45 mcg T3 on the third day! Can I?

YES, you are still hypo, you left it so late that you should have gone

up by 10.

the guidelines on the web site suggest

>Following the pattern of increases that I've talked about here and going up initially by 6.25 every 3 to 5 days and then by 12.5 every 5 to 7 days (depending on whether you feel you need/can tolerate an increase) you will probably end up on around 75mcg at around the 8 week mark. By this time your T4 levels will have decayed to an insignificant level and you will be able to adjust dose every 3 to 5 days to try and clear hypo symptoms.

I stand by those now your ferritin is reasonable and still being

supplemented.

>Shounds too fast to me! Besides, I know nothing about my current Ferritin level! I did feel VERY awake at the Sushi restaurant. I couldn't close my eyes. They were WIDE open. A good feeling! But the rest of me feels weird and wrong, tummy is horrible (too big!) and the heart is the main issue here. It feels like it's living its own life in there. :\

Um, burst of iodine from the suchi stimulating your thyroid because

your TSH is so high due to you being hypo???

The other issue is that your T3 may well be a LOT less potent than

the good brands. If it's the same as the British that comes in 20mcg

tablets I've heard pretty derogatory reports about it.

 

Nick

[Guest guest]

>But iodine is a good thing for me? I hear Mark Starr say Hypo people should

take Lugol's Iodine, and we can even lower our HC doses if we do so.

Iodine is good for you if you want to produce T4 to feed your RT3.

This discussion has been held lots of times. With your TSH too high

iodine is the LAST thing you want.

http://thyroid-rt3.com/iodine.htm

>Long term undertreated? Tell me in what way you mean so? I felt sooo amazing

for years on T4-only!!!!!

but you are also saying how hypo you feel

>I was looking and feeling great up til 2007. However, I had my tachycardias

since the age of 13. I am now 31. Why did the tachycardia stop when my endo

stopped T3-meds in February 2008? I've had tachycardia every year, plenty of

times, before 2008. But not after. WHY!?!? What's going on with my body?

a different nix of hormones, I am not a cardiologist. What I do know

is that bodies work best with T3 levels right and getting through to

the cells and you are describing loads of hypo symptoms, especially

BLOATING, and that hypo can cause heart failure in the long term.

>I would love to take the T3 sublingually, but if it's not made to do so, I

guess the absorption could be horrible! :\ I dunno. Thanks for the advice

though.

Something can be used other than the way it's made!! That's why I said

do it on that dose with an increase at the same time. I am not saying

do it on all doses.

Have a read of this, it was written around natural but applies to T3

too

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/sublingual/

The vast majority of the tablet you are taking is filler, the T3

itself, 5 or 10 micrograms, is very soluble and passes through the

capillaries in the mouth well. Even if there is some filler left after

that you swallow eventually your body will have got the T3 by the 30

minute mark and you can safely swallow the rest.

TRY IT as I described tonight, take a proper " lights out " dose

insteaad of waiting up for the iron and make it an increase on that

dose, your body will thank you for it. You don't need much cortisol

that time of day if you look at the profiles.

Nick

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>I couldn't raise T3 as fast as I wanted due to low Ferritin!

But had an adequate ferritin result how many weeks ago?? I am talking

about this last increase that should have been 4 days and not 8

>

>I am now at 40 mcg daily. Been for 3 days. When would you suggest an increase

in the dose again?

I suggested it for yesterday

>And by 10 mcg you say?

No, just that you waited so long for the last one it should have been

10. Raise 5 every 3 to 5 days should work

>So you mean what I am doing now is very bad, and gangerous, because my T4 is so

low? It's at 8.3 (range: 8 - 20) -

your T4 is much to HIGH if you want to get rid of this RT3. Get the T3

up and you will stop making T4.

>Do I need to HURRY to increase my doses?

Not hurry, just don't delay them.

>I am in the middle of week 10 now and I'm on 40 mcg daily!

you can look on that as week 4 then, most people are on 75 by week 8.

Look at it as being 4 to 6 weeks to wait AFTER you get to 60.

>Where else would I get " good " T3? I have no idea if the one I am using now is

good or bad. How can I figure that out? It's made by Nycomed Pharma here in

Norway. Called " Liothyronin " . 20 mcg tablets. They say you can use 40 to 60 mcg

daily as a full substitute dose for adults. " But one should rather use T4-meds

for a more stable medication " they say. Haha.

the only way of comparing bio available strength is really to try it.

It's the Norwegian brand and not the British which has a dad

reputation so that's something, At the end of the day the strength

doesn't matter if you are on " enough for you " . The " reference brand "

that things get compared with here is the Grossman, works well

sublingually, tastes nice, and is cheap. There is no great advantage

in swapping though unless yours is bitter tasting to take

sublingually.

It's ideal for multidosing as it tastes sweet and you don't need to

take it with water, just crunch it up and swallow it.

If yours does taste bad I can put you a spare bottle in the post and

send you a link to get more from if you like it.

Try yours sublingually first though tonight, do an increase on the

last dose and take 10 then.

>

Nick

>

>

>

>

>

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I feel so bad now after taking a 5 minute morning walk outside the house. I climbed a small hill (2 meters high) with snow and just felt like crap after this. WHY am I so weak!?!?

Also, FT3 in the blood is stable cause T3 has a halftime of 2 days right? So I shouldn't worry about not getting enough T3 at ALL times, right? I mean my FT3 will not be 6.3 in one moment. Then 0.3 in the next. Just checking!I feel a bit sick now, like dizzy and just bad. After that brief walk. I am thinking "omg not enough T3 in me!"Do I have long term untreated hypo? Well, if we count the last 2 years, it's a 2 year not perfectly treated hypo. Before that; I was skinny and "normal". Never 100% perfect, but close to it most of the time! So I guess my thyroid condition was good for those 10 years on T4 only and T/T3 in the last 4 of those years. Until _something_ (adrenals? rt3?) happened in 2007.Anyway... Need to lie down now..Pulse: 76Temp: 37.0 (as always)

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Wow gerss Mark Starr doesn't believe in the rT3-theory huh. Why would my specialist listen to him and tell me to take Iodine (a lot of it too!) when I'm on T3-only? Iodine has all those cleansing properties and I think I need that, but, if it makes more T4, and more rT3 then this is bad for me.I feel hypo now. But I didn't feel hypo between 1997 and 2007. I was climing huge mountains at that time, biking miles and miles, going to the gym, I was active as an athlete! These days, I am a joke.I hope it has not been "long term" for my heart yet. I do have many symptoms. I am worried that much of my bloating is from taking HC. I wasn't bloated at ALL pre-HC, and pre-T3 only. I was looking fine and skinny (but felt horrible) while on T4-only from 2008 to 2009. I felt horrible after they removed T3 from me in February 2008. But I looked good (!) til I

started HC. That's when I started growing. Especially my face and my belly! Hands and legs and arms are skinny!!! Cushings symptoms?Ok so you recommend an increase in T3, even if I haven't checked my FT3 blood sample on 35 nor 40 mctg T3? Last time I checked it was 30 cmg T3 and FT3 was 6.3. I don't want any pooling going on!Can it be dangerous in any way to take a pill not made for sublingual action, sublingually? I hear stories of people getting their skin burned a hole in and stuff from pills not swallowed.If I take 2.5 mg HC with my 10 mcg T3 sublingually.. Won't that be dangerous? I mean, if I really need a proper amount of cortisol to get T3 into the cells and not pool?

>But iodine is a good thing for me? I hear Mark Starr say Hypo people should take Lugol's Iodine, and we can even lower our HC doses if we do so.

Iodine is good for you if you want to produce T4 to feed your RT3.

This discussion has been held lots of times. With your TSH too high

iodine is the LAST thing you want.

http://thyroid- rt3.com/iodine. htm

>Long term undertreated? Tell me in what way you mean so? I felt sooo amazing for years on T4-only!!!!!

but you are also saying how hypo you feel

>I was looking and feeling great up til 2007. However, I had my tachycardias since the age of 13. I am now 31. Why did the tachycardia stop when my endo stopped T3-meds in February 2008? I've had tachycardia every year, plenty of times, before 2008. But not after. WHY!?!? What's going on with my body?

a different nix of hormones, I am not a cardiologist. What I do know

is that bodies work best with T3 levels right and getting through to

the cells and you are describing loads of hypo symptoms, especially

BLOATING, and that hypo can cause heart failure in the long term.

>I would love to take the T3 sublingually, but if it's not made to do so, I guess the absorption could be horrible! :\ I dunno. Thanks for the advice though.

Something can be used other than the way it's made!! That's why I said

do it on that dose with an increase at the same time. I am not saying

do it on all doses.

Have a read of this, it was written around natural but applies to T3

too

http://www.stopthet hyroidmadness. com/sublingual/

The vast majority of the tablet you are taking is filler, the T3

itself, 5 or 10 micrograms, is very soluble and passes through the

capillaries in the mouth well. Even if there is some filler left after

that you swallow eventually your body will have got the T3 by the 30

minute mark and you can safely swallow the rest.

TRY IT as I described tonight, take a proper "lights out" dose

insteaad of waiting up for the iron and make it an increase on that

dose, your body will thank you for it. You don't need much cortisol

that time of day if you look at the profiles.

 

Nick

[Guest guest]

I don't have a super high pulse or temp, so I guess I can take more T3 today. BUT I am more worried about pooling in any way! Don't want fibrillation again!I take iodine in my multi. Should I stop taking my multi then?My Ferritin was at 64 (if it wasnt a false high due to infection) on the 21st of January 2010.Shit I feel so bad now! Maybe I should take my second 10 mcg T3 dose now, only 1 1/2 hour after my first dose, or what? Or can that be bad for me, like bad for the heart?Thanks for your offer! I'll see how this T3 works sublingually.

>I couldn't raise T3 as fast as I wanted due to low Ferritin!

But had an adequate ferritin result how many weeks ago?? I am talking

about this last increase that should have been 4 days and not 8

>

>I am now at 40 mcg daily. Been for 3 days. When would you suggest an increase in the dose again?

I suggested it for yesterday

>And by 10 mcg you say?

No, just that you waited so long for the last one it should have been

10. Raise 5 every 3 to 5 days should work

>So you mean what I am doing now is very bad, and gangerous, because my T4 is so low? It's at 8.3 (range: 8 - 20) -

your T4 is much to HIGH if you want to get rid of this RT3. Get the T3

up and you will stop making T4.

>Do I need to HURRY to increase my doses?

Not hurry, just don't delay them.

>I am in the middle of week 10 now and I'm on 40 mcg daily!

you can look on that as week 4 then, most people are on 75 by week 8.

Look at it as being 4 to 6 weeks to wait AFTER you get to 60.

>Where else would I get "good" T3? I have no idea if the one I am using now is good or bad. How can I figure that out? It's made by Nycomed Pharma here in Norway. Called "Liothyronin" . 20 mcg tablets. They say you can use 40 to 60 mcg daily as a full substitute dose for adults. "But one should rather use T4-meds for a more stable medication" they say. Haha.

the only way of comparing bio available strength is really to try it.

It's the Norwegian brand and not the British which has a dad

reputation so that's something, At the end of the day the strength

doesn't matter if you are on "enough for you". The "reference brand"

that things get compared with here is the Grossman, works well

sublingually, tastes nice, and is cheap. There is no great advantage

in swapping though unless yours is bitter tasting to take

sublingually.

It's ideal for multidosing as it tastes sweet and you don't need to

take it with water, just crunch it up and swallow it.

If yours does taste bad I can put you a spare bottle in the post and

send you a link to get more from if you like it.

Try yours sublingually first though tonight, do an increase on the

last dose and take 10 then.

>

Nick

>

>

>

>

>

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How fastr does T3 work and how long does it last in the body? It's 1 hour 40 mins since I took my 10 mcg morning dose of T3. Feel horrible now. Is it form all the iodine from last night or what? Like more rT3, blocking T3 again? How fast does rT3 appear?I am thinking. Maybe I need my next dose of T3 right NOW to not get real sick/die?

[Guest guest]

>Wow gerss Mark Starr doesn't believe in the rT3-theory huh. Why would my

specialist listen to him and tell me to take Iodine (a lot of it too!) when I'm

on T3-only?

I have no idea

>Iodine has all those cleansing properties and I think I need that, but, if it

makes more T4, and more rT3 then this is bad for me.

>

yes! If you were on enough T3 then it wouldn't matter so much but you

are under dosed, there is no way your thyroid is suppressed, it's just

" turned down a bit "

>I feel hypo now. But I didn't feel hypo between 1997 and 2007. I was climing

huge mountains at that time, biking miles and miles, going to the gym, I was

active as an athlete! These days, I am a joke.

You are very hypo with all the associated health issues

>

>I hope it has not been " long term " for my heart yet. I do have many symptoms. I

am worried that much of my bloating is from taking HC. I wasn't bloated at ALL

pre-HC, and pre-T3 only. I was looking fine and skinny (but felt horrible) while

on T4-only from 2008 to 2009.

then not a place to go back to

>I felt horrible after they removed T3 from me in February 2008. But I looked

good (!) til I started HC. That's when I started growing. Especially my face and

my belly! Hands and legs and arms are skinny!!! Cushings symptoms?

more likely hypo. Adding the HC will have sucked whatever thyroid you

had circulating into the cells and left you needing more

>Ok so you recommend an increase in T3, even if I haven't checked my FT3 blood

sample on 35 nor 40 mctg T3? Last time I checked it was 30 cmg T3 and FT3 was

6.3. I don't want any pooling going on!

Levels will increase for a couple of days, TSH will reduce, your own

thyroid production reduce a little, and you'll be hypo again inside a

week. The idea is to fit the next increase in BEFORE you get hypo

>

>Can it be dangerous in any way to take a pill not made for sublingual action,

sublingually? I hear stories of people getting their skin burned a hole in and

stuff from pills not swallowed.

>

Not T3, there is nothing caustic in it.

>If I take 2.5 mg HC with my 10 mcg T3 sublingually.. Won't that be dangerous? I

mean, if I really need a proper amount of cortisol to get T3 into the cells and

not pool?

No, the rest of your body is not using much cortisol at night.

>

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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>I feel so bad now after taking a 5 minute morning walk outside the house. I

climbed a small hill (2 meters high) with snow and just felt like crap after

this. WHY am I so weak!?!?

That's classic low adrenal symptoms, wiped out after excercise.

Time you reread this

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/

I suspect you can answer yes to a lot of the list of questions off

that page

>1) Do you have a hard time falling asleep at night?

>2) Do you wake up frequently during the night?

>3) Do you have a hard time waking up in the morning early, or feeling

refreshed?

>4) Do bright lights bother you more than they should?

>5) Do you startle easily due to noise?

>6) When standing from sitting or from lying down, do you feel lightheaded or

dizzy?

>7) Do you take things too seriously, and are easily defensive?

>8 ) Do you feel you don’t cope well with certain people or events in your life?

another quote from the page

>low cortisol can result in high amounts of thyroid hormones to build in the

blood, making your free T3 and/or free T4 labs look high in range with

continuing hypo symptoms, or causing hyper-like symptoms on doses of Armour

which shouldn’t produce those symptoms. The latter can include anxiety or

nervousness, light-headedness, shakiness, dizziness, racing heart, sudden

weakness, nausea, feeling hot, or any symptom which seems like an over-reaction

to Armour,

In fact read this symptom list page as well

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/symptoms-low-cortisol/

I suspect your brain fog has lifted enough now for you to be able to

read these and take them in,

Nick

[Guest guest]

>I don't have a super high pulse or temp, so I guess I can take more T3 today.

BUT I am more worried about pooling in any way! Don't want fibrillation again!

You are cortisol supported now, remember that when you worry about

your heart.

>

>I take iodine in my multi. Should I stop taking my multi then?

There is not normally enough to make a difference

>My Ferritin was at 64 (if it wasnt a false high due to infection) on the 21st

of January 2010.

you will hopefully be increasing now you have the T3 to hold it in

place

>

>Shit I feel so bad now! Maybe I should take my second 10 mcg T3 dose now,

only 1 1/2 hour after my first dose, or what? Or can that be bad for me, like

bad for the heart?

Stress dose 2.5 of cortisol, that should help

>Thanks for your offer! I'll see how this T3 works sublingually.

Should be fine

Nick

[Guest guest]

>How fastr does T3 work and how long does it last in the body?

Generally it goes up in 30 mins to an hour from taking it and back to

the same level again maybe 3 to 4 hours after taking it. These times

are quicker if you are more hypo.

>It's 1 hour 40 mins since I took my 10 mcg morning dose of T3. Feel horrible

now. Is it form all the iodine from last night or what?

No, those effects will have worn off

>Like more rT3, blocking T3 again? How fast does rT3 appear?

Relatively slowly I suspect

>I am thinking. Maybe I need my next dose of T3 right NOW to not get real

sick/die?

You need to stress dose 2.5 or maybe 5 of HC NOW