Re: Is This Normal?

[Guest guest]

Not sure you're male or female, but want to tell you my basals drop at a certain

time of the month, then it slowly increases and reaches a peak at another time

of the month. It's in rhythm with my menstrual cycle. (if you want to know which

part of the month, I need to go check my chart)

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> I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per day (6.25

at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever. Basal is

usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots of

coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at one

point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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> Are these normal things?

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestion. It seems unlikely though as I have been taking my

temps for six months and this is the first time they've ever gone that low. The

only thing I'm doing different is increasing the cytomel. Plus it is in

combination with such noticeably worse hypo symptoms. I thought I would start

to feel less hypo (

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> > I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per day

(6.25 at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever.

Basal is usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots

of coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at

one point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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> > Are these normal things?

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[Guest guest]

>I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per day (6.25

at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever. Basal is

usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots of

coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at one

point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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>Are these normal things?

Sounds like not enough, what were you on before and how long have you

been on 25?

Nick

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[Guest guest]

I've been on 12.5 mcg cytomel since December when RT3 test showed ratio of 11.3.

Prior to that I was on one grain of thyroid (erfa) for three months. Just

recently (October 2009)found doctor who diagnosed hypothyroid and then I found

STTM info re adrenals, etc. Have been undiagnosed hypothyroid for years I think

(had one adrenal gland removed in 2005 re " cortisol-producing tumor " ). With help

from Val on NTHAdrenals, I am supported with HC now and have been having iron

IVs to raise ferritin.

My first increase from 12.5 mcg was Feb 10 to 18.75mcg

Then on fourth day after that (Feb 13) raised to 25 mcg. SO have only beenon 25

mcg since Feb 13.

Thanks so much for your help )

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> >Are these normal things?

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> Sounds like not enough, what were you on before and how long have you

> been on 25?

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> Nick

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> www.thyroid-rt3.com>

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[Guest guest]

I'd sure like to know, I'm peri and am working on temps and sometimes they take a sudden dip. Would like to figure out if it's related to the strange cycle I have now.<<Posted by: "miri.yum1" miri.yum1@... miri.yum1Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:40 am (PST)Not sure you're male or female, but want to tell you my basals drop at a certain time of the month, then it slowly increases and reaches a peak at another time of the month. It's in rhythm with my menstrual cycle. (if you want to know which part of the month, I need to go check my chart)>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

[Guest guest]

I don't have my chart in front of me but I did glance over it today:

When I ovulate my temps increase and keep increasing by about one point each

day, until menstruation. My temps dip again either on the first day of

menstruation or when my period ends. I would need to take a look at my graph to

see when exactly it dips. It certainly increases when I ovulate. I track my

ovulation as well and they seem to correlate.

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> I'd sure like to know, I'm peri and am working on temps and sometimes

> they take a sudden dip. Would like to figure out if it's related to

> the strange cycle I have now.

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> <<Posted by: " miri.yum1 " miri.yum1@... miri.yum1

> Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:40 am (PST)

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> Not sure you're male or female, but want to tell you my basals drop at

> a certain time of the month, then it slowly increases and reaches a

> peak at another time of the month. It's in rhythm with my menstrual

> cycle. (if you want to know which part of the month, I need to go

> check my chart)>>

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>

> Kem in Eugene

> <º)))><

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[Guest guest]

That is normal because the progesterone in the luteal phase increases temps....

liz

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> > I'd sure like to know, I'm peri and am working on temps and sometimes

> > they take a sudden dip. Would like to figure out if it's related to

> > the strange cycle I have now.

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> > <<Posted by: " miri.yum1 " miri.yum1@ miri.yum1

> > Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:40 am (PST)

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> > Not sure you're male or female, but want to tell you my basals drop at

> > a certain time of the month, then it slowly increases and reaches a

> > peak at another time of the month. It's in rhythm with my menstrual

> > cycle. (if you want to know which part of the month, I need to go

> > check my chart)>>

> >

> >

> > Kem in Eugene

> > <º)))><

> >

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[Guest guest]

>My first increase from 12.5 mcg was Feb 10 to 18.75mcg

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>Then on fourth day after that (Feb 13) raised to 25 mcg. SO have only beenon 25

mcg since Feb 13.

Sounds like you are getting there. The doses need to keep stepping up

as the T4 decays as a result of that step in order to feel the most

benefit

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

[Guest guest]

so ideally you raise 6.25 every 3 days??

and does it always take 12 weeks to clear the RT3 or is it ever longer or shorter time??>My first increase from 12.5 mcg was Feb 10 to 18.75mcg>>Then on fourth day after that (Feb 13) raised to 25 mcg. SO have only beenon 25 mcg since Feb 13.Sounds like you are getting there. The doses need to keep stepping upas the T4 decays as a result of that step in order to feel the mostbenefitNick-- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid- rt3.com

[Guest guest]

>so ideally you raise 6.25 every 3 days??

Depends how your body is responding

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>and does it always take 12 weeks to clear the RT3 or is it ever longer or

shorter time??

say 10-14. What matters is the time from when T4 gets low enogh but

that's harder to quantify

Nick

[Guest guest]

I have been going through similar thing and each time it gets better if I

increase the T3 some more. I was guessing that I am shutting down my own

production with each increase and have to increase the dose every 3 -4 days to

keep up.

Steve

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> > > I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per day

(6.25 at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever.

Basal is usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots

of coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at

one point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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> > > Are these normal things?

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[Guest guest]

Great - thanks Nick. I will keep moving ahead!

I just was worried maybe I was doing something too quickly or incorrectly as

I've never felt so hypothyroid before in my life. I have gradually felt more

and more hypo since starting to get my adrenal supported. The low cortisol

symptoms used to trump the hypothryoid somehow! Now I've eliminated the low

cortisol symptoms I can really feel the hypo things I guess. Even more so since

increasing the T3 - could that be because the T3 has started to stop the T4

already - so soon in the process? And by stopping the T4, I have less T3

because I am still quite early in the ramping up?

Thanks so much for your help )

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> >My first increase from 12.5 mcg was Feb 10 to 18.75mcg

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> >Then on fourth day after that (Feb 13) raised to 25 mcg. SO have only beenon

25 mcg since Feb 13.

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> Sounds like you are getting there. The doses need to keep stepping up

> as the T4 decays as a result of that step in order to feel the most

> benefit

>

> Nick

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> for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

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> www.thyroid-rt3.com

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Steve. Are you still at 6.25mcg per dose? I have been doing increases

every 3 or 4 days too. Shutting down production is what I just clued in must be

happening with me too. I thought that didn't come until later - but it must be

that.

Thanks for the post - it feels better to know someone else is having the same

experience. Although I wish we were all healthy, with normal hormone levels!

)

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> > > > I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per day

(6.25 at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever.

Basal is usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots

of coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at

one point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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> > > > Are these normal things?

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[Guest guest]

I am now doing 8.75, 6.25, 8.75, 6.25, 5 at bedtime. I added a half of a 5mcg

to two of my doses a few days ago, and plan to add to the other doses when I

feel the need probably by the weekend? I am getting an iron IV Thursday and I

cannot wait!!! I hope to work up after that to 11.25 per dose, and then

ultimately 12.5. My temps get as high as 99 sometimes so I am not really sure

why (ferritin?) but my basal still 97.4 most mornings and my pulse is always

under 70. I did start having palpitations tonight so not sure what that is

about.

Steve

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> > > > > I just recently started raising cytomel and am now taking 25 mcg per

day (6.25 at 8, 11, 2 & 5pm). The last few days I have felt more hypo than ever.

Basal is usually 97.5 or so now is 97.2. Can barely get me out of bed , lots

of coldness, worst mentally, etc. My temp during the day yesterday was 97.8 at

one point. My pulse 1/2 hr after 2pm dose was 62 (was 72 before dose).

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> > > > > Are these normal things?

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[Guest guest]

That's a great idea to add a half to the alternate doses. I was thinking when I

fill up my day with 6.25 that going to 12.5 all at once might be scary. I would

have to get some 10mcg pills though I guess - I just have 25s now. Is it your

first iron IV? I'm so glad I started them. I postponed because I was worried

about some sort of reaction (I've always been sensitive to EVERYTHING) but it

was no problem whatsoever. I was just in " wait-mode " before the IVs. I'm getting

a ferritin test again tomorrow to see if another one should be done. (Someone

told me to go for the iron IV with a full stomach - so I did that. Not sure of

the reason but it can't hurt Also, if you are on HC, consider a stress dose

before you go in for the IV. I didn't and was kind of shaky by the end (the

whole needle issue, I think). After I was done, I took my next HC dose and felt

better in five minutes. I actually felt better than usual all afternoon after

the IV - but I also had a Myers Cocktail (vitamins by IV) right before iron so

that might have helped.

I had higher temp for the first time this afternoon (98.9) and felt kind of

flushed (red in my cheeks) but my heart rate was normal. I ate dinner and then

went to normal again. When your temps go up to 99 is it in the late afternoon?

Do you check to see if it lasts long? If you are due for your next dose and your

temp is up, do you still take the scheduled dose on time? When I felt flushed

this afternoon, I waited half and hour and then took it and things seemed okay.

Not sure if that is the right thing to do. Thanks again for sharing - seems

like we're at exactly the same spot )

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> I am now doing 8.75, 6.25, 8.75, 6.25, 5 at bedtime. I added a half of a 5mcg

to two of my doses a few days ago, and plan to add to the other doses when I

feel the need probably by the weekend? I am getting an iron IV Thursday and I

cannot wait!!! I hope to work up after that to 11.25 per dose, and then

ultimately 12.5. My temps get as high as 99 sometimes so I am not really sure

why (ferritin?) but my basal still 97.4 most mornings and my pulse is always

under 70. I did start having palpitations tonight so not sure what that is

about.

>

> Steve

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[Guest guest]

I had my first IV last week. Thanks for the tips though. I have had so many

needles (one day I will tell my story on here) so I could start my own IV if I

had to. Flushing is one of my most interesting features. Everyone thinks I'm

sunburned all the time. I cannot figure out a pattern and it drives me nuts.

It is definitely better since starting this protocol though. I also can't find

a pattern to the temps. It seems lately that the highest is around noon. I

think that it is definitely tied to the T3 dose so maybe the increases get me

higher temps at least temporarily. I still take the dose. The only thing I

would call intolerance is that sometimes I get an antsy feeling and the most

noticable thing is that I can't stand noise. It may last a few hours or a day.

I think that must be adrenal or ferritin, but since it has been temporary and I

am on HC 32.5 aond iron, I just keep going.

Steve

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> > I am now doing 8.75, 6.25, 8.75, 6.25, 5 at bedtime. I added a half of a

5mcg to two of my doses a few days ago, and plan to add to the other doses when

I feel the need probably by the weekend? I am getting an iron IV Thursday and I

cannot wait!!! I hope to work up after that to 11.25 per dose, and then

ultimately 12.5. My temps get as high as 99 sometimes so I am not really sure

why (ferritin?) but my basal still 97.4 most mornings and my pulse is always

under 70. I did start having palpitations tonight so not sure what that is

about.

> >

> > Steve

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>I was guessing that I am shutting down my own production with each increase and

have to increase the dose every 3 -4 days to keep up.

Yep, as the T3 remaining from T3 conversion reduces you have to follow

it with an increase in the external T3. for me I was following that

chase all the way to the 12 week mark with weekly increases.

After clearance you will need a few adjustments but then should be

able to get onto a stable dose

From here

http://thyroid-rt3.com/dosing.htm

>Once you get started you are going to need to increase frequently for the first

couple of months. This is because you are chasing the decay in your T4 levels,

and hence the reduction in your own T3 production with the increase in applied

T3. Click here to help decide if you need an increase

There are lots of things in that site that can get missed first time

round, especially when brain fogged!

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

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